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1. 11:21 AM - Still looking for NOS Radiator (Pietflyer1977)
2. 12:33 PM - Plans from the Pietenpol Family Website (gsnewsome)
3. 12:38 PM - Re: Plans from the Pietenpol Family Website (Scott Knowlton)
4. 12:42 PM - Re: Plans from the Pietenpol Family Website (Jack Phillips)
5. 12:47 PM - Re: Plans from the Pietenpol Family Website (CatDesigns)
6. 12:51 PM - Making airplane noises... lower the seat? (Riegerb)
7. 01:00 PM - Re: Plans from the Pietenpol Family Website (Scott Knowlton)
8. 01:15 PM - Re: Making airplane noises... lower the seat? (taildrags)
9. 02:13 PM - Re: Plans from the Pietenpol Family Website (curtdm(at)gmail.com)
10. 02:36 PM - Re: Plans from the Pietenpol Family Website (gsnewsome)
11. 02:42 PM - Re: Re: Plans from the Pietenpol Family Website (Scott Knowlton)
12. 05:24 PM - Re: Making airplane noises... lower the seat? (tools)
13. 09:09 PM - Re: Making airplane noises... lower the seat? (taildrags)
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| Subject: | Still looking for NOS Radiator |
I am still looking for a new old stock Forest Lovely radiator for a Ford Model
A. If anyone has a extra one or one they decided not to use let me know.
Thanks Rob 812-932-9000
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| Subject: | Plans from the Pietenpol Family Website |
Curious if plans ordered from the Pietenpol family are received with an assigned
aircraft serial number?
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| Subject: | Re: Plans from the Pietenpol Family Website |
Mine were.
Scott Knowlton
Burlington On
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| Subject: | Plans from the Pietenpol Family Website |
Not unless they have recently started doing so. Generally only kit
manufacturers do that. You are free to number yours any way you wish. Mine
happens to be Serial Number 101, and I am listed as the manufacturer. And I
did buy my plans from the Pietenpol family, from BHP's son (Andrew's
father), back in 1996.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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Curious if plans ordered from the Pietenpol family are received with an
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| Subject: | Plans from the Pietenpol Family Website |
No number on mine. Just make one up.
Chris
Sacramento, CA
WestcoastPiet.com
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Curious if plans ordered from the Pietenpol family are received with an
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| Subject: | Making airplane noises... lower the seat? |
First sit in the piet...
Actual seat will be ~.5in lower than pictured. Anyone have a good reference for
seat height?
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| Subject: | Re: Plans from the Pietenpol Family Website |
The attached page was in my plans set. I suppose it really just denotes the
plan copy number....
I imagine it could be included as part of the serial number of your aircraft
if it is desired.
Yes, I know.... Plans were received in '03..... Life sometimes gets in the w
ay of a good airplane project....
Scott K
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| Subject: | Re: Making airplane noises... lower the seat? |
Best advice is "build it to the plans" ;o) I believe my Piet seat is built to
plans and I still find myself hunching down behind the windscreen when it's chilly.
If you want, I can measure the front and rear heights of my seat, but my guess
is that it's per plans. I only have a thin padding of foam and naugahyde on mine,
although I've flown it with a store-bought chair cushion and also with a
typical boat floatation cushion and both of those put me a little higher in the
slipstream than I like.
What style of landing gear are you planning to use?
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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| Subject: | Re: Plans from the Pietenpol Family Website |
Almost 1400 sets of plans in 7 years. That's a lot of spruce.
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Curt Merdan
Flower Mound, TX
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| Subject: | Re: Plans from the Pietenpol Family Website |
Popular airplane - Thanks
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| Subject: | Re: Plans from the Pietenpol Family Website |
Most people make it out of Spruce actually.... ;). You're welcome!
SK
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| Subject: | Re: Making airplane noises... lower the seat? |
"Build it to plans..."
That's really kind of a joke. BUT, when it comes to weird little things like
seat placement, height, angle, etc, it's true. Just don't worry about it much.
Same with control rigging, moments, incidence, blah blah.
Absolutely don't worry about a quarter of an inch here or there due to plywood
thickness, cumulative error or whatever. Basically stick to the most obvious intent
of the plans and it'll be fine.
I absolutely agree with the big three... STOUT angled cabanas, flexible fuel tubing
from the wing tank and certainty about balance, but otherwise, don't fret
it too much. Anything less than half an hour doesn't matter. From there to an
hour and a half is questionable, more than that you can't make a Piet comfortable,
is basically the deal. So consider what you'll be doing the most. For most
of us, most flights are less than an hour, with twenty min flights being the
norm.
Probably the most important priority is weight followed by simplicity, just that
simple. Your project is looking great!
Tools
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| Subject: | Re: Making airplane noises... lower the seat? |
I'm with 'tools' as far as duration of flights. Many of mine, 0.5 or so in the
logbook, are just to get the airplane out, warm up the oil, and make a couple
of circuits of the field to stay current and to challenge my skills. For this
type of flight you won't be up long enough to feel the seat padding, the cold
or heat, or much of anything else... the thrill of flight will be the dominant
sensation.
The next most popular type of flight that I make, anywhere from 0.5 to 1.0 in the
logbook, is when I go out to survey the landscape, observe enemy movements,
and sometimes to run through stalls and airmanship maneuvers. I'll make a strafing
run on a freight train or suspected enemy encampment as needed to confirm
Vne in a maximum dive and pull-up after dropping my bombs on the train, but
mostly I'll be at 1500-2000 MSL looking at the scenery, the change of seasons,
and just enjoying the airplane. For these flights, I might notice my headset
'clamping' towards the end of a flight, or I might feel a chill up my pants
legs if the air is cool, or I might notice having to hold aft stick if the nose
tank was full when I started- but not much else. This is Pietenpoling at its
finest.
The least frequent type of flight that I make is in excess of 1.0 in the logbook
and can be a hop over to a nearby field for an event, or a short x-c, or in
a rare instance, a "long" (for me) x-c of several fuel stops and a day or so of
travel each way. On those flights, I definitely notice the seat padding, the
suitability of my clothing for the weather, the CG shift as fuel burns, the
tightness of the headset, and a lot of other things as the flight progresses.
After about 2.0, I want to get on the ground, stretch, fuel up, check oil, and
inspect the airplane.
I have never flown Scout for more than about 4.0 at a time, so you iron-butt guys
will have to chime in here. I can say that the angle of the seat bottom really
begins to play a big part in cockpit comfort after 2.0 in the seat, or maybe
it's just us slimmer pilots, because my tailbones really begin to feel the
plywood seat bottom after about 90-120 minutes in the seat. There is no way
for me to shift my weight onto my thighs because of the geometric relationship
of the rudder bar to the pilot's seat, so I settle into the "lift and shift"
weight transfer mode and tough it out after that.
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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