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0. 12:34 AM - A List Contribution - It's Your Personal Squelch Button... (Matt Dralle)
1. 04:38 AM - Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 11/09/14 (Jim Markle)
2. 04:49 AM - Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 11/09/14 (dfwplt)
3. 05:14 AM - Re: Re: Ray Allen electric trim servo (Jack)
4. 06:15 AM - Re: A Great Day in Barnwell (bdewenter)
5. 06:19 AM - Re: A Great Day in Barnwell (jarheadpilot82)
6. 07:49 AM - NX (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-LME0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
7. 08:00 AM - Re: Saturday flight (Claude Corbett)
8. 08:53 AM - Corky & Chuck Campbell? WWII Veterans? (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-LME0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
9. 09:55 AM - Re: Corky & Chuck Campbell? WWII Veterans? (bdewenter)
10. 10:00 AM - Re: Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 11/09/14 (Andre B. Charvet)
11. 01:22 PM - Off Topic - Happy Birthday Marines (jarheadpilot82)
12. 03:49 PM - Re: Off Topic - Happy Birthday Marines (Marcus Zechini)
13. 04:43 PM - Re: Corky & Chuck Campbell? WWII Veterans? (Charles N. Campbell)
14. 04:47 PM - Re: Re: A Great Day in Barnwell (Charles N. Campbell)
15. 04:49 PM - Re: Re: Corky & Chuck Campbell? WWII Veterans? (Charles N. Campbell)
16. 05:01 PM - Re: Corky & Chuck Campbell? WWII Veterans? (John Franklin)
17. 06:17 PM - Fw: Go jacks (Steven Dortch)
18. 07:08 PM - Re: Off Topic - Happy Birthday Marines (aerocarjake)
19. 07:21 PM - A great day in Barnwell (Keith)
20. 10:45 PM - Re: Off Topic - Happy Birthday Marines (aerocarjake)
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| Subject: | A List Contribution - It's Your Personal Squelch Button... |
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 11/09/14 |
Seems like attaching the fabric to the ribs after the initial shrink is comm
on. I was able to work the Stewart Systems down through the fabric while us
ing weights to hold it down against the ribs. No more gaps between the stit
ches.
Sent from my smartphone.
> On Nov 10, 2014, at 2:00 AM,
> Time: 03:41:00 PM PST US
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Rib stitching question
> From: "Charles N. Campbell" <charlescampbell1924@gmail.com>
>
> Jim, I was thinking the same thing. I am considering gluing the fabric to
> the ribs before tautening and rib stitching. What says the experts who
> have already been down this road? Chuck
>
> On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 7:27 AM, Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
> wrote:
>
>> jim_markle@mindspring.com>
>>
>> 2 1/2" spacing pulls the fabric up against the ribs in the under camber
>> area on the bottom of the wing. 3 1/2" spacing leaves a little gap betwe
en
>> stitches. Is it worth making that area 2 1/2" spacing to avoid that gap?
>>
>> Sent from my smartphone.
>>
>>
>
> ________________________________ Message 4 ______________________________
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>
>
> Time: 04:30:29 PM PST US
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Trombone bungee trim
> From: "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
>
>
> Well, it's simple alright! Seeing your handheld and radio stuff in the co
ckpit
> reminds me of what a pain mine is. I've got to do something different, be
cause
> it's driving me nuts. Mine is a little Icom IC-A23 and what I do is clip i
t
> to the map holder down by my right calf using the belt clip on the back of
the
> battery case. Well, that's fine until I pull the radio out to change freq
uencies.
> If I'm not real careful, the battery case snaps off and my radio is dead.
> Then I get to do the stick-between-my-knees shuffle, pull off one or both
> gloves and hope they don't fly out, fumble around for the battery and clip
,
> get everything back together, power up the radio, and then pull the airpla
ne out
> of a screaming, diving left corkscrew spiral ;o) I've got to find my Bill
> Rewey "handy details" and bend up one of his radio brackets to hold it up w
here
> I can see it and get to the buttons easier.
>
> --------
> Oscar Zuniga
> Medford, OR
> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
> A75 power
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=433229#433229
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 5 ______________________________
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>
>
> Time: 04:46:13 PM PST US
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Saturday flight
> From: "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
>
>
> The Air Camper worked its magic for me again yesterday. We've had some gr
ay and
> drizzly mornings lately, but it usually breaks up after lunch and we get a
couple
> of hours of sunshine. Gambling on that happening, I went out to the hanga
r
> after lunch and prepared for flight. As I was preflighting, the sky was c
learing
> and by the time I was ready to roll the airplane out, it was beautiful
> with calm winds and almost no traffic.
>
> I had been correcting the camber on my axles, because it had been uneven f
rom one side to the other and I had used washers to shim the axles out rathe
r than the proper tapered shims. There are a couple of pictures of the shim
ming here: http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/axle.html . I also replaced a t
ire and tube on one side, but everything was done and the airplane was ready
to fly. So was I!
>
> Interesting little 'chat' with the ground controller, as he said my call s
ign was
> incorrect. "November Xray Four One Charlie Charlie", I repeated. "One Ch
arlie
> Charlie, Is that what's painted on your tail?" he asks. "Four One Charlie
> Charlie, roger." That ended that little discussion, but I bet he went to f
ind
> out about that NX- tail number.
>
> Beautiful day, smooth flight, on runup the RPM drop was textbook perfect o
n carb
> heat and both mags, and off we went. I've finally started listening to yo
u
> pilots who suggest just letting it fly itself off. I'd always been taught
to
> hold forward stick to bring the tail up, hold it, then rotate when the air
speed
> was good. Nahh... there is no need. Scout needs considerable forward sti
ck
> force to pick up the tail early, so yesterday instead of forcing it, I ju
st
> tried letting it do what it wanted and that worked great. We lifted off a
nd climbed
> out like the airplane knew what it was doing.
>
> A very nice bit of sightseeing in the autumn air with autumn colors everyw
here,
> then some power on and power off stalls (non events), then back to the fie
ld.
> I must say that the landing was the best that I have made in a very, very l
ong
> time. One of those where you roll out from base to final with the runway c
enterline
> stripes just falling in perfect alignment with the center of the prop
> and then not budging. Down the glideslope with out even stirring the stic
k,
> down into ground effect, ease the stick back... back... back- and I was do
wn
> without even knowing when it happened.
>
> This is why we fly Piets.
>
> --------
> Oscar Zuniga
> Medford, OR
> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
> A75 power
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=433230#433230
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 6 ______________________________
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>
>
> Time: 06:16:37 PM PST US
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Ray Allen electric trim servo
> From: "Chris Rusch" <rmdinfo@rmdbenders.com>
>
>
> Jack, we are on the same page, I did mine exactly like yours...
>
> --------
> NX321LR
> Now test flying!!
> Mitsubishi Powered
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=433233#433233
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_475.jpg
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 7 ______________________________
_______
>
>
> Time: 07:53:52 PM PST US
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Trombone bungee trim
> From: "Jeff Boatright" <jeffboatright@emory.edu>
>
>
>
> taildrags wrote:
>> Well, it's simple alright! Seeing your handheld and radio stuff in the c
ockpit
> reminds me of what a pain mine is. I've got to do something different, be
cause
> it's driving me nuts. Mine is a little Icom IC-A23 and what I do is clip
> it to the map holder down by my right calf using the belt clip on the back
of
> the battery case. Well, that's fine until I pull the radio out to change f
requencies.
> If I'm not real careful, the battery case snaps off and my radio is
> dead. Then I get to do the stick-between-my-knees shuffle, pull off one o
r both
> gloves and hope they don't fly out, fumble around for the battery and clip
,
> get everything back together, power up the radio, and then pull the airpla
ne
> out of a screaming, diving left corkscrew spiral ;o) I've got to find my B
ill
> Rewey "handy details" and bend up one of his radio brackets to hold it up w
here
> I can see it and get to the buttons easier.
>
>
> I use Ram cell phone mounts. Not the cheapest, but I find they are versiti
le and
> do not fail.
>
> Put several more landings in yesterday and today using the very simple tri
m system.
> About a dozen so far since installation. Rock solid at 55 mph from downwin
d
> to base to final to landing. No doubt such a Rube Goldberg solution is not
> to everyone's taste, but works for me. If problems arise I'll let you all k
now.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=433234#433234
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 11/09/14 |
Oops, sorry for including ALL those additional comments in my last note. Hit send
too soon.
Sorry about that.
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=433316#433316
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| Subject: | Re: Ray Allen electric trim servo |
Agreed, yours will have a bit more force. Congrats on your testing and be safe...
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
> On Nov 9, 2014, at 8:16 PM, "Chris Rusch" <rmdinfo@rmdbenders.com> wrote:
>
>
> Jack, we are on the same page, I did mine exactly like yours...
>
> --------
> NX321LR
> Now test flying!!
> Mitsubishi Powered
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=433233#433233
>
>
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/image_475.jpg
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: A Great Day in Barnwell |
John Francis and I pulled an all nighter putting our tools down at 2:30 AM sunday
morning for a few hours sleep. John's engine roared to life at 11:00 AM Sunday!
Congratulations to all 3 Piet builder who ran their Corvair power plants for the
first time with great success - Chuck Campbell (at 91 years of age!), Keith
Goff and John Francis.
--------
Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter
Dayton OH
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=433320#433320
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| Subject: | Re: A Great Day in Barnwell |
You Da Man, Bob! That is awesome. I wish I could have been there!
Congratulations to John!
--------
Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
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Oscar--- Glad you got to fly Saturday!
When I use radio communications I simply say "Experimental 48MC" and omit the
X in my call because the X is simply an aircraft marking
denoting it is an experimental but the X is not recognized by the FAA as part of
our N-number registry/records. I suppose it doesn't hurt one
way or the other to use the X in your call sign but that is the way I've always
understood the rationale of the X to be.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: Saturday flight |
After reading this I felt I had just had another great Piet flight. Thanks
Corky
Sent from my iPad
> On Nov 9, 2014, at 6:45 PM, "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> The Air Camper worked its magic for me again yesterday. We've had some gray
and drizzly mornings lately, but it usually breaks up after lunch and we get a
couple of hours of sunshine. Gambling on that happening, I went out to the hangar
after lunch and prepared for flight. As I was preflighting, the sky was
clearing and by the time I was ready to roll the airplane out, it was beautiful
with calm winds and almost no traffic.
>
> I had been correcting the camber on my axles, because it had been uneven from one side to the other and I had used washers to shim the axles out rather than the proper tapered shims. There are a couple of pictures of the shimming here: http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/axle.html . I also replaced a tire and tube on one side, but everything was done and the airplane was ready to fly. So was I!
>
> Interesting little 'chat' with the ground controller, as he said my call sign
was incorrect. "November Xray Four One Charlie Charlie", I repeated. "One Charlie
Charlie, Is that what's painted on your tail?" he asks. "Four One Charlie
Charlie, roger." That ended that little discussion, but I bet he went to
find out about that NX- tail number.
>
> Beautiful day, smooth flight, on runup the RPM drop was textbook perfect on carb
heat and both mags, and off we went. I've finally started listening to you
pilots who suggest just letting it fly itself off. I'd always been taught to
hold forward stick to bring the tail up, hold it, then rotate when the airspeed
was good. Nahh... there is no need. Scout needs considerable forward stick
force to pick up the tail early, so yesterday instead of forcing it, I just
tried letting it do what it wanted and that worked great. We lifted off and
climbed out like the airplane knew what it was doing.
>
> A very nice bit of sightseeing in the autumn air with autumn colors everywhere,
then some power on and power off stalls (non events), then back to the field.
I must say that the landing was the best that I have made in a very, very
long time. One of those where you roll out from base to final with the runway
centerline stripes just falling in perfect alignment with the center of the prop
and then not budging. Down the glideslope with out even stirring the stick,
down into ground effect, ease the stick back... back... back- and I was down
without even knowing when it happened.
>
> This is why we fly Piets.
>
> --------
> Oscar Zuniga
> Medford, OR
> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
> A75 power
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=433230#433230
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Corky & Chuck Campbell? WWII Veterans? |
Corky---it is really great to see you post on the list. I know you're a
WWII Veteran and I read where our Chuck Campbell is 91
years old.
Chuck---did you serve in WWII by chance? If so THANK you and Corky and t
o ALL the folks on this list who may have served in
the military.
I have the utmost respect for ALL of your and your service.
My Dad served in the Army/Air Corps in WWII in a non-pilot role but he was
overseas in the Phillipines, Manila, and Kyoto, Japan
during his service. He also served some time at Wright Field in Dayton.
God bless all of you veterans and those of you with active or reserve
relatives in the service.
Mike C.
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| Subject: | Re: Corky & Chuck Campbell? WWII Veterans? |
Mike,
...Chuck is a WWII and Korean pilot including aircraft carrier squadrons. Chuck
is an amazing person and it is a treat to be in his company.
--------
Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter
Dayton OH
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=433344#433344
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 7 Msgs - 11/09/14 |
Gotta love the Stewart system
Ben
Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com> wrote:
>Seems like attaching the fabric to the ribs after the initial shrink is common.
I was able to work the Stewart Systems down through the fabric while using
weights to hold it down against the ribs. No more gaps between the stitches.
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| Subject: | Off Topic - Happy Birthday Marines |
To all of the Marines who are followers on this list, I say "Happy Birthday, Marine!"
For others of you, today is the 239th birthday of the United States Marine Corps.
All Marines have 2 birthdays - their own and the Corps.
So to all Marines, a Happy Birthday wish.
--------
Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
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| Subject: | Re: Off Topic - Happy Birthday Marines |
Lots of Jar head and Devil Dog friends and lots of time logged aboard USMC
Air Stations. Will never forget. Happy Birthday! And of course, THANKS!
On Nov 10, 2014 4:25 PM, "jarheadpilot82" <jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com>
>
> To all of the Marines who are followers on this list, I say "Happy
> Birthday, Marine!"
>
> For others of you, today is the 239th birthday of the United States Marine
> Corps. All Marines have 2 birthdays - their own and the Corps.
>
> So to all Marines, a Happy Birthday wish.
>
> --------
> Semper Fi,
>
> Terry Hand
> Athens, GA
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=433352#433352
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Corky & Chuck Campbell? WWII Veterans? |
Yes, I was in WW2 -- all of it. I joined the US Navy on 7/25/41 and was
released to inactive duty on 12/25/45. Flew F6F Hellcats off the carrier
Hancock. Chuck
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 11:52 AM, Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-LME0)[Vantage
Partners, LLC] <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov> wrote:
> Corky---it is really great to see you post on the list. I know you're a
> WWII Veteran and I read where our Chuck Campbell is 91
> years old.
>
> Chuck---did you serve in WWII by chance? If so THANK you and Corky and
> to ALL the folks on this list who may have served in
> the military.
>
> I have the utmost respect for ALL of your and your service.
>
> My Dad served in the Army/Air Corps in WWII in a non-pilot role but he was
> overseas in the Phillipines, Manila, and Kyoto, Japan
> during his service. He also served some time at Wright Field in Dayton.
>
> God bless all of you veterans and those of you with active or reserve
> relatives in the service.
>
> Mike C.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: A Great Day in Barnwell |
Slight correction -- I'm 90 -- will be 91 Feb 18, 2015, I hope. Chuck
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 9:14 AM, bdewenter <anonymouse@woh.rr.com> wrote:
>
> John Francis and I pulled an all nighter putting our tools down at 2:30 AM
> sunday morning for a few hours sleep. John's engine roared to life at
> 11:00 AM Sunday!
>
> Congratulations to all 3 Piet builder who ran their Corvair power plants
> for the first time with great success - Chuck Campbell (at 91 years of
> age!), Keith Goff and John Francis.
>
> --------
> Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter
> Dayton OH
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=433320#433320
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Corky & Chuck Campbell? WWII Veterans? |
Thank you, Bob. Chuck
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 12:55 PM, bdewenter <anonymouse@woh.rr.com> wrote:
>
> Mike,
>
> ...Chuck is a WWII and Korean pilot including aircraft carrier squadrons.
> Chuck is an amazing person and it is a treat to be in his company.
>
> --------
> Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter
> Dayton OH
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=433344#433344
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Corky & Chuck Campbell? WWII Veterans? |
Guys,
I met Chuck at Barnwell a few years ago and when I found out he flew off the USS
Hancock in WWII, I unashamedly kept him up half the night asking about his experiences.
I wish I could relate them here, they were mighty interesting.
Go to this website and scroll down a little to see Chuck with some of his fellow
pilots:
http://herschpahlbooks.com/dedications/marlin_monte_kinder.htm
God Bless you Chuck and it was great to hear that you got to run your engine!
John Franklin
GN-1 under construction
4TA0 Prairie Aire
Needville, TX
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>From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-LME0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
>
>Corky---it is really great to see you post on the list. I know you're a WWII
Veteran and I read where our Chuck Campbell is 91
>years old.
>
>Chuck---did you serve in WWII by chance? If so THANK you and Corky and to ALL
the folks on this list who may have served in
>the military.
>
>
>Mike C.
>
>
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Gave my harbor freight mechanical wheel dolly Jacks a test run today. You
can spin the plane in place easily or move it sideways. Almost too easy
sure would be easy to get some hangar rash.
Front wheel is too small for the jack, so a board shim was added. Works
good.
Helps make room to work on my Piet.
Blue Skies,
Steve D
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Blue Skies,
Steve D
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| Subject: | Re: Off Topic - Happy Birthday Marines |
THANKS for your service - to allow us to be free to do things like build an airplane
in our garage....!
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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| Subject: | A great day in Barnwell |
It was a great weekend in Barnwell! Spent time with Chuck Campbell, Bob Dewinter,
John Francis, Terry Hand, Don Harper, and PF. I also ran my engine!
Tough weekend to top! Thanks to our Veterans for making it possible.
Keith Goff
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| Subject: | Re: Off Topic - Happy Birthday Marines |
THANKS for your service - to allow us to be free to do things like build an airplane
in our garage....!
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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