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Fri 11/21/14


Total Messages Posted: 13



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     0. 08:26 AM - [PLEASE READ] Why I Have A Fund Raiser...  (Matt Dralle)
     1. 04:50 AM - Re: Willys Jeep Pietenpol (womenfly2)
     2. 05:08 AM - Re: Re: Willys Jeep Pietenpol (Boatright, Jeffrey)
     3. 09:42 AM - Re: rivets (taildrags)
     4. 03:02 PM - Re: Model A motor mount (Fastnaught John)
     5. 05:25 PM - Honda Goldwing radiator (aviken)
     6. 05:29 PM - Greetings from an old newbie...or is it a new oldbie? (edwoerle)
     7. 05:39 PM - Re: Greetings from an old newbie...or is it a new oldbie? (aviken)
     8. 06:21 PM - Re: Model A motor mount (Fastnaught John)
     9. 06:37 PM - Re: Greetings from an old newbie...or is it a new oldbie? (Dick N)
    10. 07:33 PM - Re: Greetings from an old newbie...or is it a new oldbie? (Ray Krause)
    11. 07:36 PM - Re: Honda Goldwing radiator (taildrags)
    12. 10:50 PM - Re: Greetings from an old newbie...or is it a new oldbie? (edwoerle)
 
 
 


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    Time: 08:26:21 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: [PLEASE READ] Why I Have A Fund Raiser...
    Since the beginning, the Matronics List and Forum experience has been free from advertising. I have been approached by fair number of vendors wanting to tap into the large volume of activity across the various lists hosted here, but have always flatly refused. Everywhere you go on the Internet these days, a user is pummeled with flashing banners and videos and ads for crap that they don't want. Yahoo, Google and that elk are not "free". The user must constantly endure their barrage of commercialism thrust into their face at an ever increasing rate. Enough is enough, and the Lists at Matronics choose not to succumb to that. That being said, running a service of this size is not "free". It costs a lot of money to maintain the hardware, pay for the electricity, air conditioning, maintenance contracts, etc, etc. etc. I choose to hold a PBS-like fund raiser each year during the month of November where I simply send out a short email every other day asking the members to make a small contribution to support the operation. That being said, that contribution is completely voluntary and non-compulsory. Many members choose not to contribute and that's fine. However, a very modest percentage of the members do choose to make a contribution and it is that financial support that keeps the Lists running. And that's it. To my way of thinking, it is a much more pleasant way of maintaining the Lists and Forums. The other 11 months of the year, you don't see a single advertisement or request for support. That's refreshing and that is a List and Forum that I want to belong to. I think other people feel the same way. Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support these Lists? http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Admin.


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    Time: 04:50:18 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Willys Jeep Pietenpol
    From: "womenfly2" <Love2Fly.KAP@gmail.com>
    What Kenny sent me via Email. I really think his efforts are worth sharing here. Enjoy, WF2 > Hi I thought it might be easier just to send you some pictures here as I can't seem to have much luck on the list. I'm glad to see some interest in my project, I have been close several times just to give up and buy me a 65 cont. and forget the jeep. > > I suppose I will continue and see it through to the end now. If it doesn't perform well I will change it later. -------- Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=434212#434212 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/4_101.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/3_212.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/2_117.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/1_449.jpg


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    Time: 05:08:29 AM PST US
    From: "Boatright, Jeffrey" <jeffboatright@emory.edu>
    Subject: Re: Willys Jeep Pietenpol
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    Time: 09:42:24 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: rivets
    From: "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Mike P.- have you been peeking inside my hangar? ;o) Actually, I repainted the tank using green rebar epoxy primer, but it is a light-ish green. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC &quot;Scout&quot; A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=434299#434299 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/compressor_153.jpg


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    Time: 03:02:09 PM PST US
    From: Fastnaught John <fastnaught@windstream.net>
    Subject: Re: Model A motor mount
    Stuart, I have a Piet with the Ford Model a engine and the bolts fit just fine albeit a little tight. the trick is to compress the springs to get the bolt on, after that its a cinch. I have pictures attached. Hope this helps. Jack > On Nov 13, 2014, at 2:04 PM, Stuart Brown <stu_brown@verizon.net> wrote: > <stu_brown@verizon.net> > > I'm working with a friend mounting a Model A motor in his Piet. The plans call for drilling 4 of the pan bolts and installing a 5/16" bolt thru the wood engine bearer, thru the cast flange, and securing with a spring and jamb nut on the flange side. His motor does not have enough clearance between the center of the bolt and the motor casting on the left side to allow for the nut and spring. Has anyone has this problem and what was your solution? The clearance hole for the bolt has all ready been drilled. > > Thanks, > > Stu > Sent from my iPad > > > >


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    Time: 05:25:45 PM PST US
    Subject: Honda Goldwing radiator
    From: "aviken" <aviken@windstream.net>
    Has anyone else ever considered using a Honda Goldwing radiator on a Ford powerd piet? They look good, The price is right, but I don't know if they would work. Any Ideas? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=434316#434316


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    Time: 05:29:31 PM PST US
    Subject: Greetings from an old newbie...or is it a new oldbie?
    From: "edwoerle" <edwoerle@aol.com>
    Long time ago I fell in love with the Sky Scout. Being an antique buff I of course went for the Model A powered plane. Ordered Orin Hoopman's plans and life changed my direction. Never got built. Now I'm older, not necessarily wiser, and have a bit of time on my hands to play, when I'm not fiddling with my '65 Cessna T-41A or '60 Piper Apache 160. The plans have been recently dusted off. and I'm rarin' to go! Jigged up the tail surfaces. and am currently cutting whatever wood I have in my shop to build up some 'proof-of-concept' pieces. I'll cover them and take them to the airport to use as testing items (I'm a DME). Anyhow. I'll probably be making a pest of myself as this project goes slowly together. Been reading the forum and already gained much useful info. I want to thank you in advance for your help and understanding. Ed -------- Just east of Graceland Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=434317#434317


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    Time: 05:39:18 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Greetings from an old newbie...or is it a new oldbie?
    From: "aviken" <aviken@windstream.net>
    Greetings , How exciteing it is to start your project... Keep us up-dated often. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=434318#434318


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    Time: 06:21:24 PM PST US
    From: Fastnaught John <fastnaught@windstream.net>
    Subject: Re: Model A motor mount
    Stuart, I have a Piet with the Ford Model a engine and the bolts fit just fine albeit a little tight. the trick is to compress the springs to get the bolt on, after that its a cinch. I have pictures attached. Hope this helps. Jack > On Nov 13, 2014, at 2:04 PM, Stuart Brown <stu_brown@verizon.net> wrote: > <stu_brown@verizon.net> > > I'm working with a friend mounting a Model A motor in his Piet. The plans call for drilling 4 of the pan bolts and installing a 5/16" bolt thru the wood engine bearer, thru the cast flange, and securing with a spring and jamb nut on the flange side. His motor does not have enough clearance between the center of the bolt and the motor casting on the left side to allow for the nut and spring. Has anyone has this problem and what was your solution? The clearance hole for the bolt has all ready been drilled. > > Thanks, > > Stu > Sent from my iPad > > > >


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    Time: 06:37:27 PM PST US
    From: "Dick N" <horzpool@goldengate.net>
    Subject: Re: Greetings from an old newbie...or is it a new oldbie?
    Hi Ed, Are you in the Fla area? I am a builder at Sun n Fun in the wood shop, we can possibly help you out. Dick N ----- Original Message ----- From: "edwoerle" <edwoerle@aol.com> Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 7:29 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Greetings from an old newbie...or is it a new oldbie? > > Long time ago I fell in love with the Sky Scout. Being an antique buff I > of course went > for the Model A powered plane. Ordered Orin Hoopman's plans and life > changed my direction. Never got built. > > Now I'm older, not necessarily wiser, and have a bit of time on my hands > to play, when I'm not fiddling with my '65 Cessna T-41A or '60 Piper > Apache 160. > > The plans have been recently dusted off. and I'm rarin' to go! Jigged up > the > tail surfaces. and am currently cutting whatever wood I have in my shop > to build up some 'proof-of-concept' pieces. I'll cover them and take them > to > the airport to use as testing items (I'm a DME). > > Anyhow. I'll probably be making a pest of myself as this project goes > slowly together. > Been reading the forum and already gained much useful info. I want to > thank you in advance for your help and understanding. > > Ed > > -------- > Just east of Graceland > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=434317#434317 > > >


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    Time: 07:33:25 PM PST US
    From: Ray Krause <raykrause@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: Greetings from an old newbie...or is it a new oldbie?
    Ed, I'm building a Sky Scout with an A-65. Just today I got the wings all rigged to the fuselage and have had the tail feathers all rigged a few months ago. Now I'm running the cables for the aileron controls. After that I will star t the covering process with the Stewart's System. I hope to have her flying t his coming summer, if all goes according to plans. But all the little detail s really slow down the whole project. I've been working on it for two years now, but it seems longer! I wish I had gone with the Model A, but the A-65 was at hand and very cheap. I have foll owed the plans very closely, except for a few extra braces in places! I have not been too concerned about weight, since it is so close the the AirCamper but only carries one person. It should perform quite well. I will attach a few pictures. Welcome aboard, Ray Krause, Colusa, CA Flying a Sonex Waiex, N51YX, Jabiru 3300... Fast and fun, now I need slow an d low! Coming out of the workshop for first time. Looking at the sky! Cowling and metal work about done. Tr Sent from my iPad > On Nov 21, 2014, at 6:36 PM, Dick N <horzpool@goldengate.net> wrote: > > > Hi Ed, > Are you in the Fla area? I am a builder at Sun n Fun in the wood shop, we can possibly help you out. > Dick N > ----- Original Message ----- From: "edwoerle" <edwoerle@aol.com> > To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 7:29 PM > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Greetings from an old newbie...or is it a new old bie? > > >> >> Long time ago I fell in love with the Sky Scout. Being an antique buff I o f course went >> for the Model A powered plane. Ordered Orin Hoopman's plans and life chan ged my direction. Never got built. >> >> Now I'm older, not necessarily wiser, and have a bit of time on my hands >> to play, when I'm not fiddling with my '65 Cessna T-41A or '60 Piper Apac he 160. >> >> The plans have been recently dusted off. and I'm rarin' to go! Jigged up t he >> tail surfaces. and am currently cutting whatever wood I have in my shop >> to build up some 'proof-of-concept' pieces. I'll cover them and take them to >> the airport to use as testing items (I'm a DME). >> >> Anyhow. I'll probably be making a pest of myself as this project goes slo wly together. >> Been reading the forum and already gained much useful info. I want to tha nk you in advance for your help and understanding. >> >> Ed >> >> -------- >> Just east of Graceland >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=434317#434317 > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > > > <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> </b></font></pre></body></html>


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    Time: 07:36:36 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Honda Goldwing radiator
    From: "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Ken; I have not heard of it being done, but just quickly looking at the Goldwing specs (among the various models), let's say they are 108HP and they have two radiators, left and right. That would be about 54HP that each radiator is cooling. Also no idea how efficient they are, but on the quick-look basis, you might have a match. What radiator are you using in the test-run videos? -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC &quot;Scout&quot; A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=434324#434324


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    Time: 10:50:50 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Greetings from an old newbie...or is it a new oldbie?
    From: "edwoerle" <edwoerle@aol.com>
    I'm a Designated Mechanic Examiner in Memphis, Tennessee. Retired from FedEx and Delta. Glad to hear anyone say they've built a Sonex, I first met John Monnett in Chicago about 1972 when he'd jut built the first Sonerai II. He was teaching school and designing airplanes, I was working for Delta Air Lines and writing for Private Pilot magazine. Always liked his airplanes. And, he's a great guy to boot! -------- Just east of Graceland Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=434330#434330




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