Today's Message Index:
----------------------
1. 04:50 AM - E-LSA reregistration? (Ben Charvet)
2. 05:22 AM - Re: E-LSA reregistration? (Boatright, Jeffrey)
3. 06:30 AM - Re: E-LSA reregistration? (gliderx5@comcast.net)
4. 08:06 AM - Re: Pietenpol in Print (Baldeagle)
5. 10:38 AM - Re: E-LSA reregistration? (CatDesigns)
6. 11:58 AM - Re: E-LSA reregistration? (taildrags)
7. 12:11 PM - Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :( (jarheadpilot82)
8. 02:10 PM - Re: Re: E-LSA reregistration? (Ben Charvet)
9. 04:43 PM - Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :( (Mark Roberts)
10. 05:10 PM - Re: Re: E-LSA reregistration? (Steven Dortch)
11. 05:11 PM - Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :( (taildrags)
12. 07:52 PM - Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :( (Mark Roberts)
Message 1
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | E-LSA reregistration? |
We've had a situation develop on our local airport. An older gentleman
had a mishap flying his J-3. The airplane has been in his family over
60 years, and he actually soloed in it 60 years ago. He has thousands
of flight hours and is a former ATP. During the mishap his landing gear
struck a runway sign and collapsed. The landing gear was the only thing
damaged, so whether this was an accident is open to interpretation.
However, the FAA was notified by the mechanic that helped remove the
aircraft from the runway.
The FAA is asking the pilot have a test-flight with an FAA examiner,
which I can understand due to his age, etc. They also dinged him
because he was flying as a sport pilot in his J-3 with its original
registration as a standard class airplane. They claim it is necessary
to re-register the airplane as light sport in order to fly it as a light
sport pilot. I have been flying my Pietenpol for 5 years as using light
sport pilot rules, and although I remember I had the option to register
it as E-LSA, the conventional wisdom at the time was Experimental
Amateur Built was the way to go.
I've searched the FAA regs and can't find any clarification. Has anyone
else out there heard of a push to re-register as E-LSA to make an
aircraft eligible for light sport pilots?
Ben Charvet
235 hrs on NX866BC sitting on my DL medical
Message 2
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: E-LSA reregistration? |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Message 3
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: E-LSA reregistration? |
Ben
I believe Jeff is correct. As far as I know it is not possible to re-regist
er a standard or experimental airplane as an E-LSA. You can only re-registe
r S-LSA as E-LSA. I think the only way to register a new airplane as E-LSA
is to have built it from an approved LSA kit.
You acquaintance has been given incorrect information from the local FAA, w
hich is not really that uncommon with respect to Sport Pilot and LSA.
Malcolm
www.wienerdogaero.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jeffrey Boatright" <jeffboatright@emory.edu>
Sent: Sunday, December 7, 2014 8:21:38 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: E-LSA reregistration?
I=99m sorry to hear of your acquaintance=99s mishap.
As long as the Cub has always met the definition of an LSA, per the FARs (i
.e., gross weight below 1320 lbs, no more than two seats, etc.), then it ca
n be flown by a pilot who qualifies as a Sport Pilot.
I have not heard of any push for re-registration. Indeed, I don=99t s
ee how that would be possible within the current FARs. What FSDO are we dea
ling with here? Regardless, IMO, the older gent should call FAA in OKC
=93 without the local FSDO being on the line. He should also call EAA an
d AOPA, even if he=99s not a member.
--
Jeffrey H. Boatright, PhD, FARVO
Professor of Ophthalmology
Emory University School of Medicine
From: Ben Charvet < bencharvet@gmail.com >
Subject: Pietenpol-List: E-LSA reregistration?
We've had a situation develop on our local airport. An older gentleman
had a mishap flying his J-3. The airplane has been in his family over
60 years, and he actually soloed in it 60 years ago. He has thousands
of flight hours and is a former ATP. During the mishap his landing gear
struck a runway sign and collapsed. The landing gear was the only thing
damaged, so whether this was an accident is open to interpretation.
However, the FAA was notified by the mechanic that helped remove the
aircraft from the runway.
The FAA is asking the pilot have a test-flight with an FAA examiner,
which I can understand due to his age, etc. They also dinged him
because he was flying as a sport pilot in his J-3 with its original
registration as a standard class airplane. They claim it is necessary
to re-register the airplane as light sport in order to fly it as a light
sport pilot. I have been flying my Pietenpol for 5 years as using light
sport pilot rules, and although I remember I had the option to register
it as E-LSA, the conventional wisdom at the time was Experimental
Amateur Built was the way to go.
I've searched the FAA regs and can't find any clarification. Has anyone
else out there heard of a push to re-register as E-LSA to make an
aircraft eligible for light sport pilots?
Ben Charvet
235 hrs on NX866BC sitting on my DL medical
===========
===========
===========
===========
This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use of
the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged
information. If the reader of this message is not the intended
recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution
or copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictly
prohibited.
If you have received this message in error, please contact
the sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of the
original message (including attachments).
=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD~=EF=BD=EF=BD,=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD%
=EF=BD=EF=BDM4=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BDx=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD
=EF=BDw=EF=BDr=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD=EF=BD
Message 4
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: Pietenpol in Print |
...small correction, it's Rudolf. Here's a copy of the Bill of Sale from January
4th, 1941 when Allen bought it from Ed Russert for $250.
(http://s241.photobucket.com/user/Baldeagle27/media/PietenpolRudolf0001_zps34487334.jpg.html)
Interestingly, it was supposed to have been owned at this point by the flying club
that included Bernard Pietenpol, but immediately prior to this there is a
gap in the paperwork of at least 1 year, and we think that was when the flying
club had it and the famous tavern bombing incident occured. It looks like the
flying club never registered it after they got it from Russert (who built it),
and then had to get him to sign a bill of sale when they sold it to Allen.
Then next bill of sale in the file is from July 12, 1995 when Allen sold it to
Jim Hammond.
-
-
--------
do not archive
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=435455#435455
Message 5
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | E-LSA reregistration? |
Ben
On the FAA website the J3 is listed as " Light Sport Aircraft: Existing Type
Certificated Models" here
http://www.faa.gov/aircraft/gen_av/light_sport/media/ExistingModels.pdf.
You cannot reregister an existing aircraft as experimental light sport. See
section Section 6. Light Sport Aircraft Category Airworthiness
Certifications 4038. General.
http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgOrders.nsf/0/7a0
9d53fb0d5325586257885004d9e1b/$FILE/8130.2G_CHG1_Incorporated.pdf
Chris
Sacramento, CA
WestcoastPiet.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben Charvet
Sent: Sunday, December 7, 2014 4:50 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: E-LSA reregistration?
We've had a situation develop on our local airport. An older gentleman had
a mishap flying his J-3. The airplane has been in his family over
60 years, and he actually soloed in it 60 years ago. He has thousands of
flight hours and is a former ATP. During the mishap his landing gear struck
a runway sign and collapsed. The landing gear was the only thing damaged,
so whether this was an accident is open to interpretation.
However, the FAA was notified by the mechanic that helped remove the
aircraft from the runway.
The FAA is asking the pilot have a test-flight with an FAA examiner,
which I can understand due to his age, etc. They also dinged him
because he was flying as a sport pilot in his J-3 with its original
registration as a standard class airplane. They claim it is necessary to
re-register the airplane as light sport in order to fly it as a light sport
pilot. I have been flying my Pietenpol for 5 years as using light sport
pilot rules, and although I remember I had the option to register it as
E-LSA, the conventional wisdom at the time was Experimental Amateur Built
was the way to go.
I've searched the FAA regs and can't find any clarification. Has anyone
else out there heard of a push to re-register as E-LSA to make an aircraft
eligible for light sport pilots?
Ben Charvet
235 hrs on NX866BC sitting on my DL medical
Message 6
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: E-LSA reregistration? |
Here's yet another opportunity to gently and patiently educate one of our public
servants and employees (FAA person). As frustrating as it is to encounter ignorance,
error, confusion, or misinformation in the agency that is supposed to
promote and regulate civil aviation, there is much more to be gained by getting
the correct information right out of the regulations or advisory circulars
and then discussing it with our employees in the FAA.
But I'll admit, sometimes you just want to whack 'em upside the head.
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=435462#435462
Message 7
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :( |
Mark,
I am going to lay down a bit of a challenge.
It would be easy to let your dream kind of slide and allow yourself to let your
project go. Ask guys that sold their projects if they are glad that they did,
and I think most would say that, in retrospect, they wish they had not. The little
bit of money was not worth the setback.
You have a place to store your fuselage. Make the effort to get it to NAS Danford
(Tool's house and hangar). It probably will be a pain to lug the project across
country. But think of the story you can tell once you have it flying. You
will in the long run be glad that you did. If your plans and desires change later
on, sell it then. But do not let it go - yet.
My advice - and only worth what you paid for it. Best wishes in the move and the
new job.
--------
Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=435463#435463
Message 8
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: E-LSA reregistration? |
I fugured this was just some mis-informed FAA guy. The regulation they
quoted was 21.190, which excludes standard certified airplanes from
being reregistered as E-LSA. Thanks for the input. Hopefully in the
next few months all this will be irrelevent and the DL Class III medical
will happen.
Ben
On 12/7/2014 2:58 PM, taildrags wrote:
>
> Here's yet another opportunity to gently and patiently educate one of our public
servants and employees (FAA person). As frustrating as it is to encounter
ignorance, error, confusion, or misinformation in the agency that is supposed
to promote and regulate civil aviation, there is much more to be gained by getting
the correct information right out of the regulations or advisory circulars
and then discussing it with our employees in the FAA.
>
> But I'll admit, sometimes you just want to whack 'em upside the head.
>
> --------
> Oscar Zuniga
> Medford, OR
> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
> A75 power
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=435462#435462
>
>
--
Ben Charvet, PharmD
Staff Pharmacist
Parrish Medical center
Message 9
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :( |
Well, that's good advice, even if it was free! I appreciate it, and I might just
be doing what you suggest. It is kinda a logistic's issue with the truck, but
I might be able to squeeze it in, and that would be the main issue.
I really don't want to sell it, and at this rate, I might not! :)
Thanks for the advice!
Mark
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=435470#435470
Message 10
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: E-LSA reregistration? |
Sorry to be the first to tell you Oscar, the Federal Aviation
Administration Reauthorization Act of 1996, approved changes to the FAA's
mission that removed the agency's dual mandate of regulating safety and
promoting industry development. After that the FAA was to promote safety
only!.
Blue Skies,
Steve D
On Sun, Dec 7, 2014 at 1:58 PM, taildrags <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Here's yet another opportunity to gently and patiently educate one of our
> public servants and employees (FAA person). As frustrating as it is to
> encounter ignorance, error, confusion, or misinformation in the agency that
> is supposed to promote and regulate civil aviation, there is much more to
> be gained by getting the correct information right out of the regulations
> or advisory circulars and then discussing it with our employees in the FAA.
>
> But I'll admit, sometimes you just want to whack 'em upside the head.
>
> --------
> Oscar Zuniga
> Medford, OR
> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
> A75 power
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=435462#435462
>
>
--
Blue Skies,
Steve D
Message 11
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :( |
Mark; if I were retired or not married, I would volunteer to drive a rental truck
one-way from CA to TN with your project, just for the adventure and sightseeing
and to meet Tools and some of the other Pieters along the way (including
a mandatory stop at The Chicken Coop in Oklahoma). I'd even pay my own way.
But I'm not ;o)
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=435472#435472
Message 12
INDEX | Back to Main INDEX |
PREVIOUS | Skip to PREVIOUS Message |
NEXT | Skip to NEXT Message |
LIST | Reply to LIST Regarding this Message |
SENDER | Reply to SENDER Regarding this Message |
|
Subject: | Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :( |
Ha! Oscar, I am still chuckling.
As we have all heard before, it's the thought that counts!
Choosing to build a piet brings with it the best people in the world. I hope I
can keep the project and meet ya'll in brodhead sometime!
Mark
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=435479#435479
Other Matronics Email List Services
These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.
-- Please support this service by making your Contribution today! --
|