Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Sat 12/13/14


Total Messages Posted: 11



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     1. 12:28 AM - Re: Re: Gooseneck Die, Part Dieux (Clif Dawson)
     2. 02:33 AM - Fabric help please! (bubbleboy)
     3. 04:15 AM - Re: Fabric help please! (danhelsper@aol.com)
     4. 04:33 AM - Re: Fabric help please! (Andre B. Charvet)
     5. 04:44 AM - Re: Fabric help please! (Scott Knowlton)
     6. 05:20 AM - Re: Fabric help please! (Charles N. Campbell)
     7. 05:29 AM - Re: Fabric help please! (Charles N. Campbell)
     8. 09:33 AM - Vi (Douwe Blumberg)
     9. 03:07 PM - Re: Vi (wheelharp)
    10. 04:56 PM - Re: Vi Kapler (Jeff Boatright)
    11. 06:21 PM - nothing in particular (Oscar Zuniga)
 
 
 


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    Time: 12:28:51 AM PST US
    From: "Clif Dawson" <cdawson5854@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: Gooseneck Die, Part Dieux
    https://www.google.ca/images?q=gooseneck+press+brake+dies&hl=en-CA&gbv=2&sa=X&oi=image_result_group&ei=qPaLVMD7BoG7ogS-r4GYAg&ved=0CFkQsAQ Clif Always remember to go to other people's funerals. Otherwise, they might not come to yours. Yogi Berra > > I have tried my best to keep my mouth shut, but my curiosity won't allow > it. What the hell is a gooseneck die and what is it for?


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    Time: 02:33:11 AM PST US
    Subject: Fabric help please!
    From: "bubbleboy" <scott.dawson3@bigpond.com>
    I'm about to place an order with Aircraft Spruce and am going to order my covering fabric. Going through the archives it appears we need about 45 yards. What's the difference between Dacron and Ceconite? I'm looking at the 1.8oz Dacron but it's width is 60 inches. From memory the chord is 60 inches so it might be a stretch to get enough coverage? Can some please tell me if I am looking at the correct product. It is part number 09-00100 from AS&S. Scotty -------- Tamworth, Australia Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper www.scottyspietenpol.com Fuslage now on its undercarriage! About to start wing spars...Corvair engine at Roy's Garage waiting to be modified. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=435672#435672


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    Time: 04:15:10 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fabric help please!
    From: danhelsper@aol.com
    =0AScotty,=0A=0A=0A60" is too narrow. How about this? http://aircr aftproducts.wicksaircraft.com/item/certified-ceconite-fabric/ceconite-fabric/lig ht-17?&plpver=10&origin=keyword&by=prod&filter=0=0A=0A=0AThis is wha t I used. "Ceconite" is a trade name, and is in fact dac ron polyester. =0A=0A=0ADan Helsper=0ALoensloe Airfield=0APuryear, TN=0A =0A=0A=0A-----Original Message-----=0AFrom: bubbleboy <scott.dawson3@bigpo nd.com>=0ATo: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>=0ASent: Sat, Dec 13, 2014 4:33 am=0ASubject: Pietenpol-List: Fabric help plea .dawson3@bigpond.com>=0A=0AI'm about to place an order with Aircra ft Spruce and am going to order my =0Acovering fabric. Going through the archives it appears we need about 45 yards. =0A What's the difference between Dacron and Ceconite? I'm looking at the 1.8oz =0ADacron but it's width is 60 inches. From memory the chord is 60 inches so it =0Amight be a stretch to get enough coverage?=0A=0ACan some please tell me if I am looking at the correct product. It is part =0Anumber 09-001 00 from AS&S.=0A=0AScotty=0A=0A--------=0ATamworth, Australia=0ABuilding a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper=0A=0Awww.scottyspietenpol.com=0A =0AFuslage now on its undercarriage! About to start wing spars ...Corvair engine at =0ARoy's Garage waiting to be modified.=0A=0A =0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/v =========================== -Matt Dralle, List =========================== =========================== =========================== ===============0A=0A=0A=0A=0A =0A


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    Time: 04:33:21 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fabric help please!
    From: "Andre B. Charvet" <bencharvet@gmail.com>
    Check the lightweight fabric at Wicks. I bought mine there and it was wider. I believe I used 40 yards, but it's been a while and my memory isn't what it once was. Ben bubbleboy <scott.dawson3@bigpond.com> wrote: > >I'm about to place an order with Aircraft Spruce and am going to order my covering fabric. Going through the archives it appears we need about 45 yards. What's the difference between Dacron and Ceconite? I'm looking at the 1.8oz Dacron but it's width is 60 inches. From memory the chord is 60 inches so it might be a stretch to get enough coverage? > >Can some please tell me if I am looking at the correct product. It is part number 09-00100 from AS&S. > >Scotty > >-------- >Tamworth, Australia >Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper > >www.scottyspietenpol.com > >Fuslage now on its undercarriage! About to start wing spars...Corvair engine at Roy's Garage waiting to be modified. > > >Read this topic online here: > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=435672#435672 > >


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    Time: 04:44:14 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fabric help please!
    From: Scott Knowlton <flyingscott_k@hotmail.com>
    AC spruce sells 1.87 oz poly fiber for just over $10.00 per yard. It is 72" and would enable you to lay it up loose (as required for shrinking) on the 60" Pietenpol chord. Scott K Burlington Ontario Sent from my iPhone > On Dec 13, 2014, at 7:35 AM, "Andre B. Charvet" <bencharvet@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Check the lightweight fabric at Wicks. I bought mine there and it was wider. I believe I used 40 yards, but it's been a while and my memory isn't what it once was. > Ben > > bubbleboy <scott.dawson3@bigpond.com> wrote: >> >> I'm about to place an order with Aircraft Spruce and am going to order my covering fabric. Going through the archives it appears we need about 45 yards. What's the difference between Dacron and Ceconite? I'm looking at the 1.8oz Dacron but it's width is 60 inches. From memory the chord is 60 inches so it might be a stretch to get enough coverage? >> >> Can some please tell me if I am looking at the correct product. It is part number 09-00100 from AS&S. >> >> Scotty >> >> -------- >> Tamworth, Australia >> Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper >> >> www.scottyspietenpol.com >> >> Fuslage now on its undercarriage! About to start wing spars...Corvair engine at Roy's Garage waiting to be modified. >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=435672#435672 > > > > >


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    Time: 05:20:30 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fabric help please!
    From: "Charles N. Campbell" <charlescampbell1924@gmail.com>
    I bought enough fabric (1.7 oz) of 72 inch width for the wings, and the rest was 62 inch width for the fuselage and tail surfaces. I don't know how without sewing strips of 62-inch fabric together to fit the narrow fabric to the wings. I forgot how much of each to buy but it is fairly easy to figure out how much you will need. Chuck On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 5:32 AM, bubbleboy <scott.dawson3@bigpond.com> wrote: > > scott.dawson3@bigpond.com> > > I'm about to place an order with Aircraft Spruce and am going to order my > covering fabric. Going through the archives it appears we need about 45 > yards. What's the difference between Dacron and Ceconite? I'm looking at > the 1.8oz Dacron but it's width is 60 inches. From memory the chord is 60 > inches so it might be a stretch to get enough coverage? > > Can some please tell me if I am looking at the correct product. It is part > number 09-00100 from AS&S. > > Scotty > > -------- > Tamworth, Australia > Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper > > www.scottyspietenpol.com > > Fuslage now on its undercarriage! About to start wing spars...Corvair > engine at Roy's Garage waiting to be modified. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=435672#435672 > >


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    Time: 05:29:06 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Fabric help please!
    From: "Charles N. Campbell" <charlescampbell1924@gmail.com>
    I bought the wider fabric from Stewart Systems and the 62-inch from Aircraft Spruce. I could have gotten it all from Stewart but the 62-inch was a little less expensive and I'm Scotch enough to want to save a few bucks. Chuck On Sat, Dec 13, 2014 at 7:33 AM, Andre B. Charvet <bencharvet@gmail.com> wrote: > > bencharvet@gmail.com> > > Check the lightweight fabric at Wicks. I bought mine there and it was > wider. I believe I used 40 yards, but it's been a while and my memory isn't > what it once was. > Ben > > bubbleboy <scott.dawson3@bigpond.com> wrote: > scott.dawson3@bigpond.com> > > > >I'm about to place an order with Aircraft Spruce and am going to order my > covering fabric. Going through the archives it appears we need about 45 > yards. What's the difference between Dacron and Ceconite? I'm looking at > the 1.8oz Dacron but it's width is 60 inches. From memory the chord is 60 > inches so it might be a stretch to get enough coverage? > > > >Can some please tell me if I am looking at the correct product. It is > part number 09-00100 from AS&S. > > > >Scotty > > > >-------- > >Tamworth, Australia > >Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper > > > >www.scottyspietenpol.com > > > >Fuslage now on its undercarriage! About to start wing spars...Corvair > engine at Roy's Garage waiting to be modified. > > > > > > > > > >Read this topic online here: > > > >http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=435672#435672 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 09:33:15 AM PST US
    From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Vi
    Hello all, With Vi's passing, yet one more direct link to Bernhard, his times but most of all to that unique generation. Though I mourn his passing, I also mourn the passing of that generation which in great part possessed qualities which seem so absent from subsequent ones. Marci and I had the pleasure of visiting him in 2010 as he was putting the finishing touches on his gorgeous Ford-powered Piet, and though we only spent an hour or so, it was memorable. I will miss seeing his face at Brodhead. Douwe


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    Time: 03:07:51 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Vi
    From: "wheelharp" <wheelharp@gmail.com>
    Douwe, very true words. This is one of the main reasons I am choosing to build a Pietenpol. Sure there are planes out there faster, roomier, etc...but I can't think of any airplane that embodies the spirit of those past generations better than the Piet. I hope by building, it will help preserve and pass on thier legacy, and hopefully a little bit of what made them so special. Jon -------- Jon Jones Ironton, MO Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=435693#435693


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    Time: 04:56:12 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Vi Kapler
    From: "Jeff Boatright" <jeffboatright@emory.edu>
    jarheadpilot82 wrote: > Does anyone have an address for the family? A message from Vi's daughter... Begin forwarded message: From: Rebecca Kapler Subject: Vitalis Kapler has passed on. Dad passed on to the great gig in the sky Thurs Dec 11th about 5:55 pm. 2014. It was so beautiful, I held his left hand Jenny held his right, as he was taking his last breath, I closed my eyes & gave thanks. I had the feeling of being a little girl again, In the plane with Dad, Taxiing down the runway, sitting at the end of the runway, Revving the engine, checking the wings just one more time to make sure they worked real good. I turned around and saw my Dads face with the biggest grin ever. He flashed me the thumbs up sign. Up, up, up, and away we went. I had the sensation that I was flying. wow I am just in amazement. I am Filled with peace. I will miss him dearly and thank you for your condolences. Rebecca Kapler 1033 Forest hills Dr SW Rochester, MN 55902 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=435696#435696


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    Time: 06:21:40 PM PST US
    From: Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Subject: nothing in particular
    Okay=2C Pieters- it's been a sad weekend=2C what with Vi Kapler leaving thi s earth for judgement. May God find him to have been a good and faithful s ervant. We had our first sunny afternoon in a long while here in southern Oregon so I went out to the hangar and changed out the bent fork end fitting on the lower port side forward strut (one of the squawks at the last annual). Eas ier than I thought=2C but then again I had a helper to wiggle the wing and hand me tools=2C so it went well. Re-tensioned the X-brace cables=2C safet ied them=2C and then taxied out to the fuel pumps to warm up the oil and to p off the tank. It was nice to have the A75 come to life and carry me here and there without complaint. At the pumps=2C I took on about 10 gallons w hen a Taylorcraft came taxiing up after an easy out-and-back flight to do w hat I had done on the ramp... warm up the oil and knock off a little of the rust. We talked about A65s and starters (he wants to upgrade to a C85 on the T-Cart)=2C and how the runway surface was at one of our nearby unpaved fields (Beagle Sky Ranch). Even without flying=2C Scout provided enough sensory input to keep me going for another week or two of fall and winter weather. Just firing up the en gine was enough=2C but taxiing out with gloves and flying helmet on and fue ling and restarting and taxiing some more was just gravy. These airplanes are so rewarding.




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