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1. 04:51 AM - Re: Fabric help please! (Flyboy)
2. 07:47 AM - Re: Model A Engine (Baldeagle)
3. 11:44 AM - Re: Fabric help please! (bubbleboy)
4. 02:43 PM - Another pietenpol egg has been laid (glenschweizer@yahoo.com)
5. 03:06 PM - Re: nothing in particular (John Kuhfahl)
6. 06:36 PM - Re: nothing in particular (Bill Church)
7. 07:11 PM - Re: Another pietenpol egg has been laid (geraldmorrissey)
8. 08:25 PM - Re: Another pietenpol egg has been laid (macz@peak.org)
9. 09:21 PM - Re: Model A Engine (taildrags)
10. 09:30 PM - Re: Another pietenpol egg has been laid (taildrags)
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Subject: | Re: Fabric help please! |
Scotty, you might look at oratex Fabric. In our high school shop we are covering
our Piet with Oratex. No chemicals, no paint. Easy
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Subject: | Re: Model A Engine |
Some interesting reading:
http://www.theaerodrome.com/forum/showpost.php?p=651276&postcount=18
But remember that there are a number of Model A Piets flying around with basically
stock per-Bernard conversions. You have to decide for yourself how much fancy
stuff you want to add.
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Subject: | Re: Fabric help please! |
Thank you everyone for your replies! Some great options!
Scotty
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Tamworth, Australia
Building a Corvair Powered Pietenpol Air Camper
www.scottyspietenpol.com
Fuslage now on its undercarriage! About to start wing spars...Corvair engine at
Roy's Garage waiting to be modified.
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Subject: | Another pietenpol egg has been laid |
Finally, I've committed to build a Piet! Not just any pietenpol,however, a Chad
Wille Aeriel. This is a Biplane adaptation. Some one just threw a wrench at
me but I ducked it's OK. I know the purists will probably throw me out of the
pieten-polpit, but if it's any consolation, the lower wing is removable, so
come on , can I stay?
I've got a few ideas I'd like some input on if you're still reading.
I'd like to try to source this build using primarily locally sourced materials.
Around here(Oregon) that means Doug Fir. I realize the weight penalty(about
15%), but there is the strength increase as well. As far as spars go. I've
noticed that some builders have used a routed spar to save considerable weight.
Could the same result be obtained using a full depth web with spar caps laminated
to either side top and bottom?
For power I plan to use a William Wynn Corvair conversion. I would find it
very helpful if someone could provide performance numbers for a normal aircamper
powered by a 120hp Corvair Thanks. Glen
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Subject: | Re: nothing in particular |
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John Kuhfahl
President, KUHLCOUPER LLC
On Dec 13, 2014, at 8:21 PM, Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Okay, Pieters- it's been a sad weekend, what with Vi Kapler leaving this e
arth for judgement. May God find him to have been a good and faithful serva
nt.
>
> We had our first sunny afternoon in a long while here in southern Oregon s
o I went out to the hangar and changed out the bent fork end fitting on the l
ower port side forward strut (one of the squawks at the last annual). Easie
r than I thought, but then again I had a helper to wiggle the wing and hand m
e tools, so it went well. Re-tensioned the X-brace cables, safetied them, a
nd then taxied out to the fuel pumps to warm up the oil and top off the tank
. It was nice to have the A75 come to life and carry me here and there with
out complaint. At the pumps, I took on about 10 gallons when a Taylorcraft c
ame taxiing up after an easy out-and-back flight to do what I had done on th
e ramp... warm up the oil and knock off a little of the rust. We talked abo
ut A65s and starters (he wants to upgrade to a C85 on the T-Cart), and how t
he runway surface was at one of our nearby unpaved fields (Beagle Sky Ranch)
.
>
> Even without flying, Scout provided enough sensory input to keep me going f
or another week or two of fall and winter weather. Just firing up the engin
e was enough, but taxiing out with gloves and flying helmet on and fueling a
nd restarting and taxiing some more was just gravy. These airplanes are so r
ewarding.
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Subject: | Re: nothing in particular |
Good point.
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Subject: | Re: Another pietenpol egg has been laid |
You may consider Port Orford cedar. It's source is close to you. Considered by
many to be a great alternative to spruce for spars. Steen Aero used to recommend
it for Skybolt spars.
Cheers
Gerry
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Subject: | Re: Another pietenpol egg has been laid |
Glen--
I agree Port Orford Cedar would be a great choice that is much better than
Doug Fir. Unfortunately, disease wiped out many of these beautiful trees
so it is hard to find good stuff. Back when it was plentiful it was used
for arrow shafts and boat planking. Where are you in Oregon?
--Mac, on Oregon coast
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> Finally, I've committed to build a Piet! Not just any pietenpol,however, a
> Chad Wille Aeriel. This is a Biplane adaptation. Some one just threw a
> wrench at me but I ducked it's OK. I know the purists will probably throw
> me out of the pieten-polpit, but if it's any consolation, the lower wing
> is removable, so come on , can I stay?
> I've got a few ideas I'd like some input on if you're still reading.
> I'd like to try to source this build using primarily locally sourced
> materials. Around here(Oregon) that means Doug Fir. I realize the weight
> penalty(about 15%), but there is the strength increase as well. As far as
> spars go. I've noticed that some builders have used a routed spar to save
> considerable weight. Could the same result be obtained using a full depth
> web with spar caps laminated to either side top and bottom?
> For power I plan to use a William Wynn Corvair conversion. I would
> find it very helpful if someone could provide performance numbers for a
> normal aircamper powered by a 120hp Corvair Thanks. Glen
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
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Subject: | Re: Model A Engine |
You know, Tools, you could designate one of your tool-a-palooza work sessions as
a Ford engine building session and I'll bet you could get a good group of people
to attend with tools, parts, and skills needed to drag one of your project
Model A engines out onto the table and start turning it into an airplane engine.
Start out by posting what you need (head, mag, crank, whatever) and I'll
bet you could get a nice engine put together when folks start dragging things
out of their parts bins and showing up for the event with stuff in the trunks
of their cars, or in their pickups, or even in some Piets if they fly in. Call
it the Ford version of a Corvair College ;o)
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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Subject: | Re: Another pietenpol egg has been laid |
Glen;
Unless you just want a biplane because it's a biplane, be advised that an Aerial
will weigh more than an Air Camper, take more time to build, require more space,
require more power, not cruise any faster, cost more to build, and not have
any better performance.
I love biplanes, but to me the Aerial is an Air Camper with extra stuff stuck on
it, and the result is no better than an Air Camper. I bought an Aerial as
a project a few years ago, with the sole purpose of obtaining the beautiful set
of spoked wheel landing gear that came with it. I donated the fuselage and
wings to a school in Alaska so that the students could have a project to learn
on and build. I have not heard how it is going up there.
An Oregon builder could do a lot worse than to use locally available and affordable
Doug fir for the build, knowing in advance that the airplane will be heavy
and will require more power in order to perform. With 120HP available, you
should have enough power.
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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