---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 12/23/14: 11 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:17 AM - Re: Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :( (Jack Phillips) 2. 04:49 AM - Re: Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :( (Charles N. Campbell) 3. 06:19 AM - Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :( (tools) 4. 06:25 AM - Re: It is no longer "Lance Captain" Mike Danford (tools) 5. 07:45 AM - Re: Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :( (Boatright, Jeffrey) 6. 07:59 AM - Re: Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :( (Jim Boyer) 7. 08:21 AM - well said Chuck (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-LME0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]) 8. 10:46 AM - Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :( (Mark Roberts) 9. 02:14 PM - Re: Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :( (Ray Krause) 10. 08:42 PM - Dreamin' (taildrags) 11. 08:42 PM - Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :( (Mark Roberts) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:17:51 AM PST US From: "Jack Phillips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :( Mark, show her how an airplane can be part of the d=E9cor. Here is a picture of my dining room, with my Pietenpol wing when I was just getting started on the project. Of course, I was recently divorced and had no one to consult with about furniture placement options: Note the bandsaw sitting in the dining room. Who could object to that? Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 11:35 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :( Hey Tools! Looks like the Angels of the Air have smiled on me, and I have the truck and resources to move the piet project. I load the truck next Monday,and I am building a crate to move it in. I expect to unload it into my living room of the apartment I am renting in Nashville, and then drive it down soon after that. My wife is supportive spouse, but a 15 foot fuse in the living room is pushing my luck [Shocked] :D I have your phone number, and here is mine in TN: 615-487-9784. Woo Hoo! Many thanks for your kindness, and I look forward to meeting the Tennessee contingent of the Piet Fliers :D Mark Roberts Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=436030#436030 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 04:49:36 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :( From: "Charles N. Campbell" Yeah! It's a fine bunch of people! Merry Christmas to all who read this. I repeat a favorite Christmas line, "Just remember what the REAL Cristmas is all about -- not the Santas, snow, and presents -- but the birth of our SAVIOR!!" On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 12:27 AM, Mark Roberts wrote: > mark.rbrts1@gmail.com> > > What is emotionally fun about kindred spirits like what is on this list, > is that others will revel in other's good fortune: A first flight of a 10 > year long build, a shared tear from the passing of someone many of us know > only from the list like Vi (I DID buy some hinges a while back fearing they > would one day be unavailable... YEAH Oscar!), the rejoicing others share > when someone can keep and move a loved project like mine. > > Oh, AND a guy I don't even know off of this list offers to store my > project at no cost in his hanger till I can get on my "building feet" > again. Thanks Tools!! > > And thanks to the rest of ya'll for hollerin' support for me! I sure > appreciate it! > > Mark > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=436034#436034 > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:19:07 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :( From: "tools" Wow, that's great news. Odds of me being there are slim, but someone will and will get ya hooked up. Also, my son has been running loads of vanities and granite tops from chatt to Nashville, coming home empty. May be able to get him to grab it there for you and bring it back. By the way, merry Christmas to all! As for this favor, just passing it along... Have been helped like this many times in the past. I'm currently storing another Piet project up here in wisconsin as it turns out! It all works out in the end... I'll give ya call so we can get a plan to deviate from in motion. Tools Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=436044#436044 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:25:38 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: It is no longer "Lance Captain" Mike Danford From: "tools" Wow, that's cool. We got a slug of our dc9's back with the merger... Who knows. Will have to look into that. We've got "the spirit of delta" our first and employee bought 767 in our museum. I got to fly it a couple of times. Really like those sorts of things. Our l1011's were known as puds. Pan am, united delta. When the wind would kick over the rudder full travel, you could still see part of the pan am globe painted on them. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=436045#436045 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:45:00 AM PST US From: "Boatright, Jeffrey" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :( SXMgdGhlIGJhbmRzYXcgc2l0dGluZyBvbiBhIFBlcnNpYW4gcnVnPyAgOykNCg0KLS0NCkplZmZy ZXkgSC4gQm9hdHJpZ2h0LCBQaEQsIEZBUlZPDQpQcm9mZXNzb3Igb2YgT3BodGhhbG1vbG9neQ0K RW1vcnkgVW5pdmVyc2l0eSBTY2hvb2wgb2YgTWVkaWNpbmUNCg0KRnJvbTogSmFjayBQaGlsbGlw cyA8amFja0BiZWRmb3JkbGFuZGluZ3MuY29tPG1haWx0bzpqYWNrQGJlZGZvcmRsYW5kaW5ncy5j b20+Pg0KUmVwbHktVG86ICJwaWV0ZW5wb2wtbGlzdEBtYXRyb25pY3MuY29tPG1haWx0bzpwaWV0 ZW5wb2wtbGlzdEBtYXRyb25pY3MuY29tPiIgPHBpZXRlbnBvbC1saXN0QG1hdHJvbmljcy5jb208 bWFpbHRvOnBpZXRlbnBvbC1saXN0QG1hdHJvbmljcy5jb20+Pg0KRGF0ZTogVHVlc2RheSwgRGVj ZW1iZXIgMjMsIDIwMTQgYXQgNjoxNyBBTQ0KVG86ICJwaWV0ZW5wb2wtbGlzdEBtYXRyb25pY3Mu Y29tPG1haWx0bzpwaWV0ZW5wb2wtbGlzdEBtYXRyb25pY3MuY29tPiIgPHBpZXRlbnBvbC1saXN0 QG1hdHJvbmljcy5jb208bWFpbHRvOnBpZXRlbnBvbC1saXN0QG1hdHJvbmljcy5jb20+Pg0KU3Vi amVjdDogUkU6IFBpZXRlbnBvbC1MaXN0OiBSZTogV2VzdCBDb2FzdCBQaWV0IFByb2plY3QgZm9y IFNhbGUgOigNCg0KDQpNYXJrLCBzaG93IGhlciBob3cgYW4gYWlycGxhbmUgY2FuIGJlIHBhcnQg b2YgdGhlIGTDqWNvci4NCg0KDQoNCkhlcmUgaXMgYSBwaWN0dXJlIG9mIG15IGRpbmluZyByb29t LCB3aXRoIG15IFBpZXRlbnBvbCB3aW5nIHdoZW4gSSB3YXMganVzdCBnZXR0aW5nIHN0YXJ0ZWQg b24gdGhlIHByb2plY3QuICBPZiBjb3Vyc2UsIEkgd2FzIHJlY2VudGx5IGRpdm9yY2VkIGFuZCBo YWQgbm8gb25lIHRvIGNvbnN1bHQgd2l0aCBhYm91dCBmdXJuaXR1cmUgcGxhY2VtZW50IG9wdGlv bnM6DQoNCg0KDQpbY2lkOmltYWdlMDAyLmpwZ0AwMUQwMUU3OC4xODA4OTlCMF0NCg0KDQoNCk5v dGUgdGhlIGJhbmRzYXcgc2l0dGluZyBpbiB0aGUgZGluaW5nIHJvb20uICBXaG8gY291bGQgb2Jq ZWN0IHRvIHRoYXQ/DQoNCg0KDQpKYWNrIFBoaWxsaXBzDQoNCk5YODk5SlANCg0KU21pdGggTW91 bnRhaW4gTGFrZSwgVmlyZ2luaWENCg0KDQoNCi0tLS0tT3JpZ2luYWwgTWVzc2FnZS0tLS0tDQpG cm9tOiBvd25lci1waWV0ZW5wb2wtbGlzdC1zZXJ2ZXJAbWF0cm9uaWNzLmNvbTxtYWlsdG86b3du ZXItcGlldGVucG9sLWxpc3Qtc2VydmVyQG1hdHJvbmljcy5jb20+IFttYWlsdG86b3duZXItcGll dGVucG9sLWxpc3Qtc2VydmVyQG1hdHJvbmljcy5jb21dIE9uIEJlaGFsZiBPZiBNYXJrIFJvYmVy dHMNClNlbnQ6IE1vbmRheSwgRGVjZW1iZXIgMjIsIDIwMTQgMTE6MzUgUE0NClRvOiBwaWV0ZW5w b2wtbGlzdEBtYXRyb25pY3MuY29tPG1haWx0bzpwaWV0ZW5wb2wtbGlzdEBtYXRyb25pY3MuY29t Pg0KU3ViamVjdDogUGlldGVucG9sLUxpc3Q6IFJlOiBXZXN0IENvYXN0IFBpZXQgUHJvamVjdCBm b3IgU2FsZSA6KA0KDQoNCg0KLS0+IFBpZXRlbnBvbC1MaXN0IG1lc3NhZ2UgcG9zdGVkIGJ5OiAi TWFyayBSb2JlcnRzIiA8bWFyay5yYnJ0czFAZ21haWwuY29tPG1haWx0bzptYXJrLnJicnRzMUBn bWFpbC5jb20+Pg0KDQoNCg0KSGV5IFRvb2xzIQ0KDQoNCg0KTG9va3MgbGlrZSB0aGUgQW5nZWxz IG9mIHRoZSBBaXIgaGF2ZSBzbWlsZWQgb24gbWUsIGFuZCBJIGhhdmUgdGhlIHRydWNrIGFuZCBy ZXNvdXJjZXMgdG8gbW92ZSB0aGUgcGlldCBwcm9qZWN0LiBJIGxvYWQgdGhlIHRydWNrIG5leHQg TW9uZGF5LGFuZCBJIGFtIGJ1aWxkaW5nIGEgY3JhdGUgdG8gbW92ZSBpdCBpbi4gSSBleHBlY3Qg dG8gdW5sb2FkIGl0IGludG8gbXkgbGl2aW5nIHJvb20gb2YgdGhlIGFwYXJ0bWVudCBJIGFtIHJl bnRpbmcgaW4gTmFzaHZpbGxlLCBhbmQgdGhlbiBkcml2ZSBpdCBkb3duIHNvb24gYWZ0ZXIgdGhh dC4gTXkgd2lmZSBpcyBzdXBwb3J0aXZlIHNwb3VzZSwgYnV0IGEgMTUgZm9vdCBmdXNlIGluIHRo ZSBsaXZpbmcgcm9vbSBpcyBwdXNoaW5nIG15IGx1Y2sgIFtTaG9ja2VkXSAgOkQNCg0KDQoNCkkg aGF2ZSB5b3VyIHBob25lIG51bWJlciwgYW5kIGhlcmUgaXMgbWluZSBpbiBUTjogNjE1LTQ4Ny05 Nzg0Lg0KDQoNCg0KV29vIEhvbyEgTWFueSB0aGFua3MgZm9yIHlvdXIga2luZG5lc3MsIGFuZCBJ IGxvb2sgZm9yd2FyZCB0byBtZWV0aW5nIHRoZSBUZW5uZXNzZWUgY29udGluZ2VudCBvZiB0aGUg UGlldCBGbGllcnMgOkQNCg0KDQoNCk1hcmsgUm9iZXJ0cw0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KUmVh ZCB0aGlzIHRvcGljIG9ubGluZSBoZXJlOg0KDQoNCg0KaHR0cDovL2ZvcnVtcy5tYXRyb25pY3Mu Y29tL3ZpZXd0b3BpYy5waHA/cD00MzYwMzAjNDM2MDMwDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0K DQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQoNCg0KDQpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXw0KDQpU aGlzIGUtbWFpbCBtZXNzYWdlIChpbmNsdWRpbmcgYW55IGF0dGFjaG1lbnRzKSBpcyBmb3IgdGhl IHNvbGUgdXNlIG9mDQp0aGUgaW50ZW5kZWQgcmVjaXBpZW50KHMpIGFuZCBtYXkgY29udGFpbiBj b25maWRlbnRpYWwgYW5kIHByaXZpbGVnZWQNCmluZm9ybWF0aW9uLiBJZiB0aGUgcmVhZGVyIG9m IHRoaXMgbWVzc2FnZSBpcyBub3QgdGhlIGludGVuZGVkDQpyZWNpcGllbnQsIHlvdSBhcmUgaGVy ZWJ5IG5vdGlmaWVkIHRoYXQgYW55IGRpc3NlbWluYXRpb24sIGRpc3RyaWJ1dGlvbg0Kb3IgY29w eWluZyBvZiB0aGlzIG1lc3NhZ2UgKGluY2x1ZGluZyBhbnkgYXR0YWNobWVudHMpIGlzIHN0cmlj dGx5DQpwcm9oaWJpdGVkLg0KDQpJZiB5b3UgaGF2ZSByZWNlaXZlZCB0aGlzIG1lc3NhZ2UgaW4g ZXJyb3IsIHBsZWFzZSBjb250YWN0DQp0aGUgc2VuZGVyIGJ5IHJlcGx5IGUtbWFpbCBtZXNzYWdl IGFuZCBkZXN0cm95IGFsbCBjb3BpZXMgb2YgdGhlDQpvcmlnaW5hbCBtZXNzYWdlIChpbmNsdWRp bmcgYXR0YWNobWVudHMpLg0K ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 07:59:45 AM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :( Way to go Chuck; remembering the real reason for Christmas. Merry Christmas everyone. Jim B. ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 08:21:54 AM PST US From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-LME0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" Subject: Pietenpol-List: well said Chuck DQpZZWFoISAgSXQncyBhIGZpbmUgYnVuY2ggb2YgcGVvcGxlISAgTWVycnkgQ2hyaXN0bWFzIHRv IGFsbCB3aG8gcmVhZCB0aGlzLiAgSSByZXBlYXQgYSBmYXZvcml0ZSBDaHJpc3RtYXMgbGluZSwg Ikp1c3QgcmVtZW1iZXIgd2hhdCB0aGUgUkVBTCBDcmlzdG1hcyBpcyBhbGwgYWJvdXQgLS0gbm90 IHRoZSBTYW50YXMsIHNub3csIGFuZCBwcmVzZW50cyAtLSBidXQgdGhlIGJpcnRoIG9mIG91ciBT QVZJT1IhISINCg0KDQoNCllvdSBzYWlkIGl0IGJlc3QgQ2h1Y2shISEhISAgIEFtZW4gYnJvdGhl ciENCg0KTWlrZSBDLg0KT2hpbw0KDQoNCg0KDQo ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 10:46:55 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :( From: "Mark Roberts" How Funny Jack! Yes, I have thought about the "furniture" idea before, but realized I married a woman smarter than myself, and she'd catch on pretty fast... We are getting rid of the couch, so I thought, hey! A cockpit has a seat, we'll just put the TV where the Radiator would be on a Model A powered piet... Use it for a living room couch! The look on her face still keeps me sleeping with one eye open. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=436060#436060 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:14:36 PM PST US From: Ray Krause Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :( Hey Jack, So, you got to keep the PIET project, the bad saw, old rifle, puny antlers, r eloading "horn" , two sawhorses and one chair? And of course, the dinning ro om! Congratulations on the decor and surviving! Ray Krause Sent from my iPad > On Dec 23, 2014, at 3:17 AM, Jack Phillips wrot e: > > Mark, show her how an airplane can be part of the d=C3=A9cor. > > Here is a picture of my dining room, with my Pietenpol wing when I was jus t getting started on the project. Of course, I was recently divorced and ha d no one to consult with about furniture placement options: > > > > Note the bandsaw sitting in the dining room. Who could object to that? > > Jack Phillips > NX899JP > Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Roberts > Sent: Monday, December 22, 2014 11:35 PM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :( > m> > > Hey Tools! > > Looks like the Angels of the Air have smiled on me, and I have the truck a nd resources to move the piet project. I load the truck next Monday,and I am building a crate to move it in. I expect to unload it into my living room o f the apartment I am renting in Nashville, and then drive it down soon after that. My wife is supportive spouse, but a 15 foot fuse in the living room i s pushing my luck [Shocked] :D > > I have your phone number, and here is mine in TN: 615-487-9784. > > Woo Hoo! Many thanks for your kindness, and I look forward to meeting the T ennessee contingent of the Piet Fliers :D > > Mark Roberts > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=436030#436030 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:42:33 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Dreamin' From: "taildrags" Sometimes you see something that really strikes you, and just a few minutes ago, I did. I was on Chris Tracy's Westcoastpiet site looking for pictures of the Aerial biplane and was scrolling down the list of names and tail numbers on the Photos page when I got to the M's and noticed 'Miscellaneous', which I clicked on. Two pages of Piet pictures in there, and a builder could do a lot worse than to spend a rainy afternoon looking at almost any of the pictures on Westcoastpiet to get ideas on how to do things. Sure, you can start with the ones that are familiar and are standouts in the fleet, but some of the offbeat ones are interesting too. "Der Faker Fokker" comes to mind (check out the Texas Air Museum link on the Photos page). Then there was the image that caught my attention (see attached). This is the embodiment of what it means to be a builder, a dreamer, an experimenter. Someone who has little more than the dream, the beginnings of an airplane, a helper, and a thin silver strand of a vision holding it all together. This says it all. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=436071#436071 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/dreamin_174.jpg ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 08:42:49 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: West Coast Piet Project for Sale :( From: "Mark Roberts" Well, an update for any who are following my saga (and if you are, what a sad life you lead!!) I got a call today from Tools (AKA Mike) and what a great guy. Ever since I decided to build a Piet, I have met nothing but great guys and gals. I know other hobbyists and car clubs, Gun enthusiasts, Ham Radio guys (I am one of those too), etc... All those mutual interests have great people that participate. And I am sure they have their fair share of good folks too. But... I am and have been members of various "hobby" clubs (including Model Airplane clubs most frequently over many locations) and I have NEVER met as nice and generous people as I have in the Piet community. Mike Cuy befriended me once with a DVD, and he knows me not. Gary Boothe visited me and bought my dinner when I had first ordered my plans (and still checks in occasionally to see if I am still breathing Piets...AND recently offered to store my project for me if I couldn't find a suitable solution when I move...) Jim Boyer always made me feel important and was a great conversationalist at the West Coast Piet June gatherings, and ... Mike and Vic Groah welcomed me to their home and let me sit in their yet to be finished project when I was just getting excited about the potential build. I was too fat and large to fit in, but the wooden shoe horn and Vic pushing on my head got me sucked into the seat long enough for a picture... And... a man that I met on the first West Coast Piet gathering I attended, Jim Markle, offered to let me stay at his house as I traversed the country on my first trip to Nashville when I was relocating... I met him ONCE, and even then that was not why he offered to let me stay... He was just a member of this list! Good Lord... ...AND, this list, did a fundraiser for that same Jim when he was going to sell his project to raise cash... (Good Grief folks: What group does THAT for another person that many will never meet!!)... All of these memories (and many more: Charlie Miller giving my wife her first ride in a Piet and setting the "Hook" for me ;o) and it was a bumpy, windy day at that!)... AND all the food Charlie and his beautiful wife provided..., my friend Jorge in Hanford visiting a few times and sharing with me so many ideas and hours visiting about my build), being "inducted" into the Great Waldo Pepper phraseology club by watching a DVD of the movie given to me by Gary Boothe so I'd understand the inside jokes on the list, AND, the patience poor Gary had when first meeting me as I babbled on INCESSANTLY at that free dinner he took me to.. Poor man hasn't recovered yet from the earful of non-stop talking I did that night...).... 4 years of West Coast Piet gatherings where I met and fellowshipped with MANY a good person, Yes, all of these memories are special to me, and at 54 (OMG... Why do I look 76??), I am glad I can continue to make more memories with this group, as I can keep my project, thanks to more friends I have yet to meet face to face, but offering to house my project for me until I can get settled, and even then whenever I am ready to pick it up. Now, shouldn't our own FAMILY operate that way? As we gather this Christmas/Chanukkah season, or whatever you celebrate, I hope you remember that THIS group, is different. Different than most people that you will pass walking down the street, who look down and don't say hi, >From a Civic Club like Rotary/kiwanis that gathers once a week and fines each other for various newsworthy activities, Different than various hobby clubs that meet and share ideas and techniques Piet People are seemingly joined by a project, values and time that ties them somehow to 1930. A time when people were neighborly, trusting and helpful. Somehow, inconceivably, the elements of the project attracts the person who seems to resonate with the era of Americana values: to help others when others need help--- Remember the stories of Bernard Pietenpol himself leaving gas in the plane's tank so he could fly others to get help if needed in an emergency--- Seems that sentiment follows the set of plans... or.. somehow those people are attracted to the plane itself. It's a mystery that will continue to follow the future generations of Piet builders. Merry Christmas. 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