---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 12/27/14: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:47 AM - Re: Re: Latex Paint Rolling Video (Steven Dortch) 2. 09:58 AM - Re: Latex Paint Rolling Video (taildrags) 3. 11:44 AM - Re: Vi Kapler Information (dwilson) 4. 11:49 AM - Re: Re: Latex Paint Rolling Video (jim hyde) 5. 11:53 AM - Re: Re: Latex Paint Rolling Video (jim hyde) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:47:26 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Latex Paint Rolling Video From: Steven Dortch Oscar and Malcolm, Mine is done in semi gloss Latex. I sprayed most and rolled some. For me spraying on was faster and more consistent than rolling. I used a Harbor Freight HVLP gun. After discussions with John K I went with semi gloss as it does not emphasize flaws and is much more forgiving. Flat would probably cover up flaws. I like the ease of application and the fact that I can do it in shorts and a set of safety glasses and a paper mask. My two year old grandson can stumble into the paint and it is just a soap and water cleanup. Also in moving it, there have been some scabs on the new paint. I am not stressed. A little Xylene on a cotton rag will feather the edges and I can spray or roll to patch it. Malcolm, your videos gave me great confidence. Thank you for sharing. I am not worried about stripping the plane someday and doing a different paint job. Now I am headed to the airport to get some work done. Blue Skies, Steve D On Fri, Dec 26, 2014 at 10:01 PM, Ray Krause wrote: > Oscar, > > Gary Booth used the Stewart System on his PIET but went right to a latex > primer, then latex finishing coats, all with roller (I think). It is > absolutely beautiful! It looks very Period like, not at all glossy. There > are pictures on Westcoast Pietenpol. I'm going to follow his lead and go > Stewart's covering then right to latex, no EkoFill. I also plan on using > some clear coats of latex so it really looks semi transparent like the old > planes. > > Thanks, > > Ray Krause > SkyScout > > Sent from my iPad > > On Dec 26, 2014, at 6:56 PM, gliderx5@comcast.net wrote: > > Oscar > > You are quite correct on all counts. The process is not especially hard, > but applying to an entire airplane does require a bit of time and elbow > grease. Of course, it pales in comparison to how long it takes to build an > entire airplane. I didn't say it on the last video but I have on some of > the others, that the painted finish before sanding and polishing looks just > fine as it is for some applications, vintage aircraft like Piets included. > As you know, un-polished latex has been used on several Piets in the past > and they look great. The hi-gloss, wet look would be truly out of place on > such aircraft. That's great news for those looking for a flat or semi-gloss > look. In fact, brush strokes in the paint might even be appropriate to give > it more of an antique look. Either way, latex is simple and low cost, > whether polished or not. > > I think I may have been a crow in a past life, I'm irresistibly attracted > to shinny things! > > Malcolm Morrison > www.wienerdogaero.com > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"taildrags" > *To: *pietenpol-list@matronics.com > *Sent: *Friday, December 26, 2014 8:33:57 PM > *Subject: *Pietenpol-List: Re: Latex Paint Rolling Video > > > Malcolm; > > That is really interesting, and you make it look very easy to get a nice > smooth finish and a great shine! I'm sure it ends up requiring a lot of > hours of work to do all of those steps for an entire airplane, but then > again if you paint as you build (tail, fuselage, wings), it spreads the > work out somewhat. Also, many Piet builders go for less of a shine and > polish since the early Air Campers were built for simple and low-cost > building and flying. A little bit of orange peel and a little less shine > would be perfectly acceptable if you were flying your Piet off a grass > pasture down on the farm and there were no judges looking at the paint job. > > -------- > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, OR > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" > A75 power > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=436295#436295 > ; &nb - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -<===== > > > * > > D============================================ > ot;">www.aeroelectric.com > books.com "">www.buildersbooks.com > quot;">www.homebuilthelp.com > quot;">www.mypilotstore.com > ">www.mrrace.com > ot;">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > D============================================ > npol-List"">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > D============================================ > //forums.matronics.com > D============================================ > > * > > * > > > * > > -- Blue Skies, Steve D ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:58:14 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Latex Paint Rolling Video From: "taildrags" Okay, so I located the moving box where I kept the test swatches that resulted from my "latex vs. Poly-Fiber" test five years ago. I wrote up that test here: http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/paint/paint.html I had intended to set the four samples outdoors for a year and then punch-test the fabric to see what happens, but that never got done when we lived in San Antonio so I'll set up a test frame and get the samples outdoors here in Oregon for 2015. My office is in a 2-story building with a flat roof and a nice ladder access through a roof hatch, so it should be easy to get the test frame set up in good position to face south for the next 12 months and four seasons. Stay tuned... ;o) -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=436320#436320 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:44:18 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Vi Kapler Information From: "dwilson" Vitalis Jerome Kapler May 14, 1927 - December 11,2014 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=436323#436323 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/vi_kapler_1_513.jpeg ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:49:51 AM PST US From: jim hyde Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Latex Paint Rolling Video rust o leum makes a latex clear coat the looks great. thin it like any late x paint i used behr for color on my heath parasoljim hyde On Saturday, December 27, 2014 12:04 PM, taildrags wrote: Okay, so I located the moving box where I kept the test swatches that resul ted from my "latex vs. Poly-Fiber" test five years ago.=C2- I wrote up th at test here: http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/paint/paint.html I had intended to set the four samples outdoors for a year and then punch-t est the fabric to see what happens, but that never got done when we lived i n San Antonio so I'll set up a test frame and get the samples outdoors here in Oregon for 2015.=C2- My office is in a 2-story building with a flat r oof and a nice ladder access through a roof hatch, so it should be easy to get the test frame set up in good position to face south for the next 12 mo nths and four seasons.=C2- Stay tuned... ;o) -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=436320#436320 =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin. S - ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:53:54 AM PST US From: jim hyde Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Latex Paint Rolling Video i used a kobalt latex gur 50.00 spraying is best. tried it with a roller te st sprat is fast, light and no issues hyde On Saturday, December 27, 2014 1:49 PM, jim hyde wro te: rust o leum makes a latex clear coat the looks great. thin it like any lat ex paint i used behr for color on my heath parasoljim hyde On Saturday, December 27, 2014 12:04 PM, taildrags wrote: Okay, so I located the moving box where I kept the test swatches that resul ted from my "latex vs. Poly-Fiber" test five years ago.=C2- I wrote up th at test here: http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/paint/paint.html I had intended to set the four samples outdoors for a year and then punch-t est the fabric to see what happens, but that never got done when we lived i n San Antonio so I'll set up a test frame and get the samples outdoors here in Oregon for 2015.=C2- My office is in a 2-story building with a flat r oof and a nice ladder access through a roof hatch, so it should be easy to get the test frame set up in good position to face south for the next 12 mo nths and four seasons.=C2- Stay tuned... ;o) -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=436320#436320 =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- -Matt Dralle, List Admin. 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