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Tue 01/13/15


Total Messages Posted: 3



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     1. 04:53 AM - Re: front harness attach point (Bill Church)
     2. 06:30 AM - Re: front harness attach point (AircamperN11MS)
     3. 12:08 PM - Re: Gooseneck Die (aerocarjake)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:53:55 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: front harness attach point
    From: "Bill Church" <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
    It does seem as though you're not looking in the right place, Oscar. To find photos of Scott Liefeld's plane, you should try looking at the photos under the heading of "Scott Liefeld." http://www.westcoastpiet.com/images/Scott%20Liefeld/scott_liefeld.htm As for the routing of the upper elevator cable - take a look at the photos on Westcoast Piet, and you'll see that the cable doesn't make a sharp angle - in fact it doesn't make any kind of deflection... it actually passes through the horizontal stabilizer. Now that's ... unusual. BC Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=436945#436945


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    Time: 06:30:31 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: front harness attach point
    From: "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>
    Oscar and Bill, You have sharp eyes. Oscar, see what you are missing when you don't come see use at the Lake. Bill you are correct, the cables go through the horizontal. My forward elevator control horns are moved forward under the pilots seat and external like Qscar noticed. This is done to add more drag to an already draggy airplane. No, not really, It was done to have the old timey Jenny look and it also give me a VERY large baggage area behind the pilots seat. It is great for all the light stuff. I use to carry all of my camping gear back there but I have gained weight and now I carry the heavy stuff in the front pit like the rest of you. The kick stand looking thing is actually my brake to hold the plane still if the tower ask me to hold short. I just reach out and pull it, the bottom of it has a piece of very hard rubber on it. I rarely use it anymore. It is the only brake I have. I have found over the years that if I leave the air pressure low in my tires that the plane slows down nicely and stops easily. I can get it stopped on a hard surface runway at sea level in about 500'. At 4000' sea level on a hard surface I need about 700' to get stopped. The higher the density altitude, the my longer it takes to get stopped. Now, why wouldn't a guy like me just put some wheel brakes on it and call it a day in this modern world? Here is that answer cause I know it is bothering you. OK, I'll pause while you go back and look at my wheels for a minute and see if you figure it out before I tell you. Answer below. Yes you see an old Johnson type airspeed indicator on the jury strut and it is the only airspeed indicator I have. Fun fact here. That is the only part I did not touch during the rebuilding of the plane in 2000. Everything else got completely rebuilt but that. I wanted something left as it was when dad and I built the plane. We calibrated it out the car (1962 Pontiac station wagon) window, at various speeds on a calm day. It is surprisingly accurate, even today after 43 years. Have you figured out the why I don't have wheel brakes? Here is the straight (big clue here) scoop. The wheels are original (Hayes) airplane wheels from the 1920's. Back when tail skids were used. If you look it the spokes you will see they are straight laced. They do not cross. If a load were applied to the hub the wheels would just fall apart. They cannot endure a torsional load. So that's the simple reason. If you look closely again you will see three rows of spokes. A row in the center and a row on each side of center. This is for the cross loads put on them if you mess up a landing. Very useful at times. The wheels are very stout. Keep looking and you I'm sure you will spot some more things that make my snowflake different that all the rest. Oh, the last pic you see on the west coast site was in 1994 at Edwards AFB. 30 minutes after I took that pic the hangar had another 100 homebuilts in it. The guards were very nice to me that morning. You'll also notice the the plane was Maroon and Beige. Keven Purtie's plane has always reminded me of how mine use to look. I miss it (the color) sometimes. See you at Frazuer Lake. AKA, the Lake Cheers, -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=436947#436947


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    Time: 12:08:10 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Gooseneck Die
    From: "aerocarjake" <flight.jake@gmail.com>
    Tom, Received the die yesterday - THANK YOU...!!! Will work great for deep part bends. Thanks, Thx, Thank you, danka....!!!! -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=436963#436963




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