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1. 12:05 AM - Re: Piet list and BPA slowly dying? (biplan53)
2. 03:33 AM - Re: Re: Piet list and BPA slowly dying? (danhelsper@aol.com)
3. 06:17 AM - Re: UPDATE ON GARDINER MASON (Jerry Dotson)
4. 08:22 AM - Full size gusset on rib (Pocono John)
5. 08:48 AM - Re: Full size gusset on rib (AircamperN11MS)
6. 08:59 AM - Re: Full size gusset on rib (Pocono John)
7. 09:00 AM - Re: Re: Full size gusset on rib (Gary Boothe)
8. 09:03 AM - Re: Full size gusset on rib (AircamperN11MS)
9. 09:14 AM - Re: Re: Full size gusset on rib (Jack Philips)
10. 12:41 PM - Flop hold down (Fastnaught John)
11. 01:20 PM - Re: Flop hold down (jarheadpilot82)
12. 01:46 PM - Re: Flop hold down (AircamperN11MS)
13. 01:57 PM - Re: Flop hold down (Ben Charvet)
14. 02:48 PM - Re: Full size gusset on rib (Pocono John)
15. 02:51 PM - Re: Toolstock 2015. 26 February - 1 march (tkreiner)
16. 10:54 PM - Re: Piet list and BPA slowly dying? (biplan53)
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Subject: | Re: Piet list and BPA slowly dying? |
Dan you read my comment before I went back and rewrote it. It hit me the wrong
way and I got it off my chest . If Dowe is as good a person as you say he is I
want to be the first to apologize. You or he can call me any time at 318-255-8539
My name is Mike Smith at Ruston La. I don't hide behind a code name. This
is the first time I got into it on a forum.
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Subject: | Re: Piet list and BPA slowly dying? |
Hello Mike Smith, =0A=0A=0AWelcome to the Piet list. Everybody
screws up once in a while (ask me how I know). If I ca
n be of any service to you please ask. Look forward to f
uture conversations, and any contributions you can give/take. Ho
pe to meet you in person at Brodhead.=0A=0A=0ADan Helsper=0ALoen
sloe Airfield=0APuryear, TN =0A=0A=0A=0A-----Original Message-----=0AFro
m: biplan53 <biplan53@hotmail.com>=0ATo: pietenpol-list <pietenpol-list@
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pol-List: Re: Piet list and BPA slowly dying?=0A=0A=0A--> Pieten
pol-List message posted by: "biplan53" <biplan53@hotmail.com>=0A=0ADan
you read my comment before I went back and rewrote it.
It hit me the wrong =0Away and I got it off my chest .
If Dowe is as good a person as you say he is I =0Aw
ant to be the first to apologize. You or he can call me
any time at =0A318-255-8539 My name is Mike Smith at Rust
on La. I don't hide behind a code =0Aname. This is the f
irst time I got into it on a forum.=0A=0A--------=0ABuilding s
teel fuselage aircamper.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A
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Subject: | Re: UPDATE ON GARDINER MASON |
Yes I think a lot of Gardner. When I first started my Piet I drove to Atlanta to
buy the materials I knew I needed and made arrangements with Gardner to visit
with him at his hangar in LaGrange. He has since came and visited with me just
about a whole day just before my Piet was finished. I went whole hog and we
had "Baloney"....not bologna sandwiches for dinner. A good man he is.
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Jerry Dotson
First flight June 16,2012
Flying in phase 2
Lycoming O-235 C2C
Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
do not archive
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Subject: | Full size gusset on rib |
Looking at photos, I see some builders have installed a full size gusset on the
outside section of ribs where the wings meet the center section. I don't see
that on the plans. Just checking if it is on the plans and I missed itor perhaps
there's a good reason for full size gussets. Thank you.
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John
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Subject: | Re: Full size gusset on rib |
Hi John,
Most guys will gusset the ribs as you descibed to prevent any crushing effect when
you tighten the fabric. You could add lightning holes to the gussets to save
some weight.
An overly simplified answer, I know.
Cheers,
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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Subject: | Re: Full size gusset on rib |
Thanks! Is it the typical 1/16"mahogany?
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John
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Subject: | Re: Full size gusset on rib |
Ha! You made me look! My plans don't show that either...I must have picked
it up from comments on The List...
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Full size gusset on rib
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Hi John,
Most guys will gusset the ribs as you descibed to prevent any crushing
effect when you tighten the fabric. You could add lightning holes to the
gussets to save some weight.
An overly simplified answer, I know.
Cheers,
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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Subject: | Re: Full size gusset on rib |
That material would work just fine.
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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Subject: | Re: Full size gusset on rib |
Also, having the whole rib gusseted gives you a nice surface to glue the
fabric to, rather than trying to get a good glue job on a 1/4" thick piece
of capstrip. You really should have at least a 1" overlap of fabric onto
wood to get a nice glue joint. As mentioned, the tautening of the fabric
puts a considerable tension on the fabric, and all that tension has to be
resisted by the glue joint on that end rib. You would hate it if two years
after you finished your plane, the fabric started pulling loose on the butt
rib.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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Hi John,
Most guys will gusset the ribs as you descibed to prevent any crushing
effect when you tighten the fabric. You could add lightning holes to the
gussets to save some weight.
An overly simplified answer, I know.
Cheers,
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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Hello to all,
Im about to get my airworthiness inspection (Feb. 14th) and have just a few items
to fix. One that perplexes me is how to hold down the flop. Some sort of latching
mechanism is necessary. I have come up with a few ideas but none are really
very good or easy. Im sure some of you have already been there and have some
great ideas. If any of you do have some neat ideas would you please share
them with me.
I appreciate you help.
Thanks,
Jack
N144JF
wire wheels
Model A
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Subject: | Re: Flop hold down |
Jack,
I give full credit to P.F. Beck for this design. It cost me a whole nothing.
If you go to the dumpster at the local Home Depot they have the aluminum bands
that go around stacks of lumber. Grab that and cut length as needed. The little
lip has a hole drilled in it and a wood screw is put in the proper position.
The head is ground off with just enough left to use your Phillips head screw
driver to bite. When the flop comes down the metal piece comes down and clips
on the screw head. There is a little spring pressure that keeps it in place. It
works great. I think P.F. Used only one. I am a belt and suspenders guy, so
I put two.
The picture is off the flop upside down, but I hope the picture helps.
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
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Subject: | Re: Flop hold down |
Jack,
I have flown a couple of Piets with the single latch like the one Terry has shown
you. It works very well if you want my vote.
Happy Landings,
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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Subject: | Re: Flop hold down |
Congratulations on scheduling your airworthiness inspection.
Ben Charvet
On 1/27/2015 3:40 PM, Fastnaught John wrote:
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> Hello to all,
> Im about to get my airworthiness inspection (Feb. 14th) and have just a few items
to fix. One that perplexes me is how to hold down the flop. Some sort of
latching mechanism is necessary. I have come up with a few ideas but none are
really very good or easy. Im sure some of you have already been there and have
some great ideas. If any of you do have some neat ideas would you please share
them with me.
> I appreciate you help.
> Thanks,
> Jack
>
> N144JF
> wire wheels
> Model A
>
>
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Ben Charvet, PharmD
Staff Pharmacist
Parrish Medical center
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Subject: | Re: Full size gusset on rib |
Thank you all. Just about to make the final ten ribs, which will be the (six) end
ribs and aileron area ribs.
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John
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Subject: | Re: Toolstock 2015. 26 February - 1 march |
Got my airline tickets this morning! Arrive Thursday at 7:55...
If anyone is driving up from Atlanta, I'll buy dinner on the way up..
PM me.
Thanks
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Tom Kreiner
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Subject: | Re: Piet list and BPA slowly dying? |
Thanks Dan I appreciate it. I will try to stay on target. If I can help call me.
I might not know the answer , but I can find someone who does.
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