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1. 04:46 AM - Re: bent aileron horn (womenfly2)
2. 05:21 AM - Re: Re: bent aileron horn (Steven Dortch)
3. 05:41 AM - Re: Re: bent aileron horn (Jack Philips)
4. 06:19 AM - Re: Re: bent aileron horn (Barry Davis)
5. 07:05 AM - Re: Re: bent aileron horn (Gary Boothe)
6. 08:42 AM - Re: bent aileron horn (Ray Krause)
7. 12:52 PM - Tonyp51qa (AircamperN11MS)
8. 01:40 PM - Flight plan symbol (Jack)
9. 01:49 PM - Re: Flight plan symbol (Boatright, Jeffrey)
10. 02:11 PM - Re: Flight plan symbol (AircamperN11MS)
11. 02:22 PM - Re: Flight plan symbol (tools)
12. 02:25 PM - Re: Flight plan symbol (AircamperN11MS)
13. 02:39 PM - flop latch (Douwe Blumberg)
14. 03:18 PM - Re: Re: Flight plan symbol (Jack)
15. 03:26 PM - New Pietenpol owner (John Letkeman)
16. 03:46 PM - New Pietenpol Aircamper owner (pilotjkl)
17. 03:50 PM - Re: New Pietenpol Aircamper owner (pilotjkl)
18. 03:57 PM - Re: New Pietenpol Aircamper owner (Gary Boothe)
19. 05:25 PM - Re: New Pietenpol Aircamper owner (pilotjkl)
20. 05:55 PM - Re: New Pietenpol owner (Jerry Dotson)
21. 06:25 PM - Re: Flight plan symbol (CatDesigns)
22. 07:08 PM - Re: New Pietenpol owner (Ray Krause)
23. 07:10 PM - Re: New Pietenpol Aircamper owner (Ray Krause)
24. 07:23 PM - Re: New Pietenpol Aircamper owner (pilotjkl)
25. 07:31 PM - Re: New Pietenpol owner (Steven Dortch)
26. 07:42 PM - Re: New Pietenpol owner (John Letkeman)
27. 07:54 PM - Re: New Pietenpol Aircamper owner (tkreiner)
28. 08:41 PM - Re: Flight plan symbol (Fastnaught John)
29. 08:55 PM - Re: Flight plan symbol (Gary Boothe)
30. 10:09 PM - Re: Flight plan symbol (CatDesigns)
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| Subject: | Re: bent aileron horn |
I never had a bent control horn. They were all made as per drawing with an airfoil
shape form .025 thick sheet. Most of these pictured look like flat stock,
could be the reason they are bending?
WF2
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| Subject: | Re: bent aileron horn |
Not sure about the others, But mine is the flat airfoil shape and the
hollow airfoil was pinched flat when it was bent.
Blue Skies,
Steve D
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 6:45 AM, womenfly2 <Love2Fly.KAP@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I never had a bent control horn. They were all made as per drawing with an
> airfoil shape form .025 thick sheet. Most of these pictured look like flat
> stock, could be the reason they are bending?
>
> WF2
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Blue Skies,
Steve D
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| Subject: | Re: bent aileron horn |
Steve,
Why not just make a new one? Those horns are actually pretty easy to
make and are fun to do.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steven
Dortch
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: bent aileron horn
Not sure about the others, But mine is the flat airfoil shape and the
hollow airfoil was pinched flat when it was bent.
Blue Skies,
Steve D
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 6:45 AM, womenfly2 <Love2Fly.KAP@gmail.com
<mailto:Love2Fly.KAP@gmail.com> > wrote:
<Love2Fly.KAP@gmail.com <mailto:Love2Fly.KAP@gmail.com> >
I never had a bent control horn. They were all made as per drawing with
an airfoil shape form .025 thick sheet. Most of these pictured look like
flat stock, could be the reason they are bending?
WF2
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Steve D
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| Subject: | Re: bent aileron horn |
Steve
Jack P took the words right out of my mouth. Go ahead and build a new
one. That will be one less think to think about when you are flying on a
clear summer day in really bumpy air.
Barry
NX973BP
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Philips
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 8:40 AM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Re: bent aileron horn
Steve,
Why not just make a new one? Those horns are actually pretty easy to
make and are fun to do.
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steven
Dortch
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 8:21 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: bent aileron horn
Not sure about the others, But mine is the flat airfoil shape and the
hollow airfoil was pinched flat when it was bent.
Blue Skies,
Steve D
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 6:45 AM, womenfly2 <Love2Fly.KAP@gmail.com>
wrote:
<Love2Fly.KAP@gmail.com>
I never had a bent control horn. They were all made as per drawing with
an airfoil shape form .025 thick sheet. Most of these pictured look like
flat stock, could be the reason they are bending?
WF2
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Steve D
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| Subject: | Re: bent aileron horn |
Most of these pictured look like flat stock, could be the reason they are
bending?
Mine was built per plans.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of womenfly2
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 4:46 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: bent aileron horn
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I never had a bent control horn. They were all made as per drawing with an
airfoil shape form .025 thick sheet. Most of these pictured look like flat
stock, could be the reason they are bending?
WF2
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| Subject: | Re: bent aileron horn |
The phantom knows!
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> On Jan 28, 2015, at 8:45 PM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
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> Steve,
>
> I had a bent horn on the rudder. I removed it, welded another piece alongs
ide (about =C2=BE as long), and bolted it back in; patched up the fabric and
paint and no one knows but me!
>
> Gary Boothe
> NX308MB
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> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li
st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steven Dortch
> Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2015 7:18 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: bent aileron horn
>
> Ladies and Gentlemen, and Oscar, at some time when N3379 was in storage th
e bottom aileron horn was bent sideways. About 20 degrees.
>
> It is similar to the one in the attached photo (taken from the Matronics a
rchives.) but does not have the 5/8" 16 GA brace.
>
> I cut off the cloth about an inch on either side. I used a set of 4inch w
ide nose sheet metal pliers to straighten it up. It seems to be stable and s
trong front to rear but it is not near as stable laterally. There do not app
ear to be any cracks but it was pinched flat when it was bent.
>
> I intend on taking it off, inspecting it and seeing if I can somehow get i
t "unpinched" and more stable.
>
> I will appreciate your opinions and expertise.
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> Blue Skies,
> Steve D
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Tony,
You have mention that you have built a KR2 and a Minimax. I think the Piet will
fit right in with your skills. When I was about 11 years old, Dad and I started
building me a KR1. I never completed it. Dad sold it and someone else finished
it. Dad went on and built a KR2 and flew it for 20 years before he busted
it up while landing. He now has a Tri-gear KR2 with a climb prop and no wheel
pants. He flies it as a light sport. He loves it.
I confess that I Googled you name and KR2 and find a guy with your name involved
with speed runs in Tennessee. Is that You?
The KR circle is small much like the Piet circle. Hopefully you can share some
more info about yourself and maybe pics of the two previous planes you built.
To me, it is not only the story of the building process, but the story behind
the person as well. Like Dowue. He is just one example of someone with a great
life story. There are many others on this list with their own personal history
that just amazes me. From all walks of life.
Welcome aboard Tony.
Cheers,
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | Flight plan symbol |
Gentlemen,
If and when you were to file a flight plan (LOL), what would you use for the type
aircraft?
Thanks,
Jack
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| Subject: | Re: Flight plan symbol |
What's our choices? I haven't filed a flight plan in 22 years. I think I have
forgotten how to. :)
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | Re: Flight plan symbol |
I haven't filed one in over fifteen! And I've NEVER filed one as a civilian...
Pretty sure dispatch would know what to do! Geesh.
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| Subject: | Re: Flight plan symbol |
What would the Great Waldo Pepper do?
I'll bet Bernard never filed.
All kidding aside, Can't you just say "experimental" and state you speed??????
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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I did used the same approach as has been mentioned with the flat spring and
rod.
I found that the one half of the flat spring from an inspection cover worked
well. The rest I did just the same and have seen it used many times
successfully.
As has been mentioned, even without a latch, the flop interestingly only
rises a couple of inches in flight. I'm not suggesting it shouldn't be
latched down, just noting that it doesn't need to be crazy strong.
What DOES happen is you WILL forget to close it when you start the engine
and it will be blown down HARD. Be sure to incorporate some sort of buffer
or it'll start loosening your hinge after a few of those incidents.
Don't ask me how I know!!
Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: Flight plan symbol |
Probably could just say experimental on the frequency, but what about filing electronically,
hmmm.
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> On Jan 29, 2015, at 5:25 PM, AircamperN11MS <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org> wrote:
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> What would the Great Waldo Pepper do?
>
> I'll bet Bernard never filed.
>
> All kidding aside, Can't you just say "experimental" and state you speed??????
>
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> Scott Liefeld
> Flying N11MS since March 1972
> Steel Tube
> C-85-12
> Wire Wheels
> Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | New Pietenpol owner |
Hi All! My name is John Letkeman, I'm the proud new owner of a Pietenpol Aircamper
project,
The builder Jack Frees, passed away before he could finish it and it was then
donated to EAA in Oklahoma, and that is whom I purchased it from and trailered
it home to west Texas, maybe someone on this forum knew the builder? I plan on
installing an A65 Continental and moving the rudder pedals forward 2" as I'm
6'4", I will try to post some pictures.
John
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| Subject: | New Pietenpol Aircamper owner |
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| Subject: | Re: New Pietenpol Aircamper owner |
Hi All! My name is John Letkeman, I'm the proud new owner of a Pietenpol Aircamper
project,
The builder Jack Frees, passed away before he could finish it and it was then
donated to EAA in Oklahoma, and that is whom I purchased it from and trailered
it home to west Texas, maybe someone on this forum knew the builder? I plan on
installing an A65 Continental and moving the rudder pedals forward 2" as I'm
6'4", I will try to post some pictures.
John
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| Subject: | New Pietenpol Aircamper owner |
Nice project, John! Nearly ready to go...
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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| Subject: | Re: New Pietenpol Aircamper owner |
Yes it is, it's set up for an 0-235 so I will need to move the wing back to compensate
for the lighter A65 engine,
John
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| Subject: | Re: New Pietenpol owner |
Welcome to the forum. Jim Markle or Mark Chouinard both live in OK. They might
shed some light on the owner.
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Jerry Dotson
First flight June 16,2012
Flying in phase 2
Lycoming O-235 C2C
Jay Anderson CloudCars prop 76 X 44
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| Subject: | Flight plan symbol |
I'll take a stab at it.
According to the FAA's Airman's information manual (AIM) your probably
trying to fill out box 3 on the flight plan. See
http://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/atpubs/AIM/aim0501.html#aim0501.
html.8
Box 3 is to contain "the designator for the aircraft, or if unknown consult
the FSS briefer".
A little more sleuthing found this publication of Aircraft Type Designators,
https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/atpubs/CNT/Basic%20Order%20Cove
r.pdf
This is the page for P-manufactures and low and behold there is a Pietenpol
(look way down the list)but it has the wrong name of the airplane, an
Aerial.
https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/atpubs/CNT/5-2-p.htm
The designator for this airplane is PARL. I'd bet this will work.
If however you want to be more precise use this as a guide
https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/atpubs/CNT/5-3.htm
The designator for a Pietenpol would be a HXA
Chris
Sacramento, CA
WestcoastPiet.com
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Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 1:40 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Flight plan symbol
Gentlemen,
If and when you were to file a flight plan (LOL), what would you use for the
type aircraft?
Thanks,
Jack
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| Subject: | Re: New Pietenpol owner |
John,
Welcome to our forum. Sounds like you have a great project. How far along is the
project? I'm anxious to see some pictures.
We're really a bunch of nice guys, fear not!
Thanks for joining us, we will learn a lot,
Ray Krause
Building a Sky Scout
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> On Jan 29, 2015, at 3:26 PM, John Letkeman <pilot@fehrs.com> wrote:
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> Hi All! My name is John Letkeman, I'm the proud new owner of a Pietenpol Aircamper
project,
> The builder Jack Frees, passed away before he could finish it and it was then
donated to EAA in Oklahoma, and that is whom I purchased it from and trailered
it home to west Texas, maybe someone on this forum knew the builder? I plan
on installing an A65 Continental and moving the rudder pedals forward 2" as I'm
6'4", I will try to post some pictures.
> John
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| Subject: | Re: New Pietenpol Aircamper owner |
Looks like the A-65 hanging from the rafters. But I think you would have a better
ride and look way cooler with that radial out front!
Ray Krause
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| Subject: | Re: New Pietenpol Aircamper owner |
Yep that's the A65 I plan to use, That Ptatt&Whittney 985 would take care of any
tail heavy issues! Not sure what my DAR will have too say about it being so
far along and me wanting to be the builder.
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| Subject: | Re: New Pietenpol owner |
John, West Texas is a BIG place. I was born in Spearman Near the Oklahoma
panhandle and lived in El Paso, which is closer to Arizona than to
Oklahoma.
Where are you in that vast expanse?
Note the town of West, Texas is in Central Texas!
Blue Skies,
Steve D
San Antonio.
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 9:07 PM, Ray Krause <raykrause@frontiernet.net>
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> John,
>
> Welcome to our forum. Sounds like you have a great project. How far along
> is the project? I'm anxious to see some pictures.
>
> We're really a bunch of nice guys, fear not!
>
> Thanks for joining us, we will learn a lot,
>
> Ray Krause
> Building a Sky Scout
> Sent from my iPad
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> > On Jan 29, 2015, at 3:26 PM, John Letkeman <pilot@fehrs.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Hi All! My name is John Letkeman, I'm the proud new owner of a Pietenpol
> Aircamper project,
> > The builder Jack Frees, passed away before he could finish it and it
> was then donated to EAA in Oklahoma, and that is whom I purchased it from
> and trailered it home to west Texas, maybe someone on this forum knew the
> builder? I plan on installing an A65 Continental and moving the rudder
> pedals forward 2" as I'm 6'4", I will try to post some pictures.
> > John
> >
> > Sent from my iPad
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| Subject: | Re: New Pietenpol owner |
I'm in Seminole, 70 miles north of Midland in oil country
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o:steven.d.dortch@gmail.com>> wrote:
John, West Texas is a BIG place. I was born in Spearman Near the Oklahoma p
anhandle and lived in El Paso, which is closer to Arizona than to Oklahoma.
Where are you in that vast expanse?
Note the town of West, Texas is in Central Texas!
Blue Skies,
Steve D
San Antonio.
On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 9:07 PM, Ray Krause <raykrause@frontiernet.net<mail
to:raykrause@frontiernet.net>> wrote:
<mailto:raykrause@frontiernet.net>>
John,
Welcome to our forum. Sounds like you have a great project. How far along i
s the project? I'm anxious to see some pictures.
We're really a bunch of nice guys, fear not!
Thanks for joining us, we will learn a lot,
Ray Krause
Building a Sky Scout
Sent from my iPad
> On Jan 29, 2015, at 3:26 PM, John Letkeman <pilot@fehrs.com<mailto:pilot@
fehrs.com>> wrote:
>
to:pilot@fehrs.com>>
>
> Hi All! My name is John Letkeman, I'm the proud new owner of a Pietenpol
Aircamper project,
> The builder Jack Frees, passed away before he could finish it and it was
then donated to EAA in Oklahoma, and that is whom I purchased it from and
trailered it home to west Texas, maybe someone on this forum knew the build
er? I plan on installing an A65 Continental and moving the rudder pedals fo
rward 2" as I'm 6'4", I will try to post some pictures.
> John
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> Sent from my iPad
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| Subject: | Re: New Pietenpol Aircamper owner |
With the temps in W Texas - I've spend several summers out there - you might reconsider
and find an O-235 to hang on your airframe. At the density altitudes
you'll encounter, a 65 Hp engine might produce 40 Hp on a hot summers day.
The O-235 would probably give you around 80 Hp, a HUGE improvement over the A-65...
Just my $0.02
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| Subject: | Re: Flight plan symbol |
Chris,
I knew there would be someone out there that would take the challenge
and run with it. And run you did. Thanks for the extensive homework. I
guess I=99ll be filing with HXA due to your research. I appreciate
what you did.
Thanks,
jack
> On Jan 29, 2015, at 9:25 PM, CatDesigns <CatDesigns@att.net> wrote:
>
<CatDesigns@att.net>
>
> I'll take a stab at it.
>
> According to the FAA's Airman's information manual (AIM) your probably
> trying to fill out box 3 on the flight plan. See
>
http://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/atpubs/AIM/aim0501.html#aim050
1.
> html.8
>
>
> Box 3 is to contain "the designator for the aircraft, or if unknown
consult
> the FSS briefer".
>
> A little more sleuthing found this publication of Aircraft Type
Designators,
>
>
>
https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/atpubs/CNT/Basic%20Order%20Co
ve
> r.pdf
>
>
> This is the page for P-manufactures and low and behold there is a
Pietenpol
> (look way down the list)but it has the wrong name of the airplane, an
> Aerial.
>
> https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/atpubs/CNT/5-2-p.htm
>
> The designator for this airplane is PARL. I'd bet this will work.
>
> If however you want to be more precise use this as a guide
>
> https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/atpubs/CNT/5-3.htm
>
> The designator for a Pietenpol would be a HXA
>
>
> Chris
> Sacramento, CA
> WestcoastPiet.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 1:40 PM
> To: Pietenpol List
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Flight plan symbol
>
>
> Gentlemen,
> If and when you were to file a flight plan (LOL), what would you use
for the
> type aircraft?
> Thanks,
> Jack
>
> Sent from my iPad
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| Subject: | Flight plan symbol |
Beautiful plane!
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Fastnaught John
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Flight plan symbol
Chris,
I knew there would be someone out there that would take the challenge
and run with it. And run you did. Thanks for the extensive homework. I
guess I=99ll be filing with HXA due to your research. I appreciate
what you did.
Thanks,
jack
On Jan 29, 2015, at 9:25 PM, CatDesigns <CatDesigns@att.net> wrote:
I'll take a stab at it.
According to the FAA's Airman's information manual (AIM) your probably
trying to fill out box 3 on the flight plan. See
http://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/atpubs/AIM/aim0501.html#aim05
01.
html.8
Box 3 is to contain "the designator for the aircraft, or if unknown
consult
the FSS briefer".
A little more sleuthing found this publication of Aircraft Type
Designators,
https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/atpubs/CNT/Basic%20Order%20C
ove
r.pdf
This is the page for P-manufactures and low and behold there is a
Pietenpol
(look way down the list)but it has the wrong name of the airplane, an
Aerial.
https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/atpubs/CNT/5-2-p.htm
The designator for this airplane is PARL. I'd bet this will work.
If however you want to be more precise use this as a guide
https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/atpubs/CNT/5-3.htm
The designator for a Pietenpol would be a HXA
Chris
Sacramento, CA
WestcoastPiet.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 1:40 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Flight plan symbol
Gentlemen,
If and when you were to file a flight plan (LOL), what would you use for
the
type aircraft?
Thanks,
Jack
Sent from my iPad
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| Subject: | Flight plan symbol |
Nice airplane Jack. Did you build it? You should send me a bunch of
pictures to put on my website.
Glad I could help
Chris
Sacramento, CA
WestcoastPiet.com
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Fastnaught John
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 8:40 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Flight plan symbol
Chris,
I knew there would be someone out there that would take the challenge
and run with it. And run you did. Thanks for the extensive homework. I
guess I=99ll be filing with HXA due to your research. I appreciate
what you did.
Thanks,
jack
On Jan 29, 2015, at 9:25 PM, CatDesigns <CatDesigns@att.net
<mailto:CatDesigns@att.net> > wrote:
<mailto:CatDesigns@att.net> >
I'll take a stab at it.
According to the FAA's Airman's information manual (AIM) your probably
trying to fill out box 3 on the flight plan. See
http://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/atpubs/AIM/aim0501.html#aim05
01.
html.8
Box 3 is to contain "the designator for the aircraft, or if unknown
consult
the FSS briefer".
A little more sleuthing found this publication of Aircraft Type
Designators,
https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/atpubs/CNT/Basic%20Order%20C
ove
r.pdf
This is the page for P-manufactures and low and behold there is a
Pietenpol
(look way down the list)but it has the wrong name of the airplane, an
Aerial.
https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/atpubs/CNT/5-2-p.htm
The designator for this airplane is PARL. I'd bet this will work.
If however you want to be more precise use this as a guide
https://www.faa.gov/air_traffic/publications/atpubs/CNT/5-3.htm
The designator for a Pietenpol would be a HXA
Chris
Sacramento, CA
WestcoastPiet.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
<mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com>
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jack
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 1:40 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Flight plan symbol
<mailto:fastnaught@windstream.net> >
Gentlemen,
If and when you were to file a flight plan (LOL), what would you use for
the
type aircraft?
Thanks,
Jack
Sent from my iPad
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