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     1. 07:20 AM - Turtledeck  (Scott Knowlton)
     2. 07:48 AM - Re: Turtledeck  (Jack Philips)
     3. 08:23 AM - Re: Turtledeck (AircamperN11MS)
     4. 08:30 AM - Re: Cold Weather Piet (Bill Church)
     5. 09:06 AM - Re: Cold Weather Piet (AircamperN11MS)
     6. 09:52 AM - Re: Cold Weather Piet (tools)
     7. 10:59 AM - Hot Mag Fatality. (William Wynne)
 
 
 
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      I didn't know how I was going to finish the aft end of the turtledeck where i
      t abuts the horizontal stab.  3 bucks worth of balsa, a little fun sanding a
      nd shaping and a piece of 1/16 ply did the trick.  A nice shop morning befor
      e heading off to work. 
      The bolt secures my hard point for the shoulder harnesses.  
      
      
      Scott Knowlton. 
      Burlington ON. 
      
      
      Sent from my iPhone
      
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      Nice job, Scott!
      
      Jack Phillips
      NX899JP
      Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott
      Knowlton
      Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 10:20 AM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Turtledeck 
      
      I didn't know how I was going to finish the aft end of the turtledeck where
      it abuts the horizontal stab.  3 bucks worth of balsa, a little fun sanding
      and shaping and a piece of 1/16 ply did the trick.  A nice shop morning
      before heading off to work. 
      The bolt secures my hard point for the shoulder harnesses.  
      
      
      Scott Knowlton. 
      Burlington ON. 
      
      
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      That's slick.  Nice touch.
      
      --------
      Scott Liefeld
      Flying N11MS since March 1972
      Steel Tube
      C-85-12
      Wire Wheels
      Brodhead in 1996
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Cold Weather Piet | 
      
      
      Looking at the other photos from the Kijiji ad, it looks like the front canopy
      has a hinge on the top, right down the center.  And the rear canopy has a slot
      cut into the back edge, like it would need to clear the antenna, if it was designed
      to slide back.  However, there doesn't appear to be a track to slide on,
      so not sure how that might work.
      
      BC
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Cold Weather Piet | 
      
      
      Interesting thoughts everyone.  The front pit is just hard to get into without
      the canopy.  Perhaps the owner or someone near him has the answer.  I'm sure it
      is easy once explained.
      
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      Scott Liefeld
      Flying N11MS since March 1972
      Steel Tube
      C-85-12
      Wire Wheels
      Brodhead in 1996
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Cold Weather Piet | 
      
      
      So many ways to skin a cat...
      
      The back one doesn't need a track to come back, and the antenna would keep it from
      coming all the way out...  
      
      Getting in the front like that though, wow.  Could be a bifold mechanism.
      
      Any of the MN crowd working on a solution?!
      
      
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      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=438050#438050
      
      
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| Subject:  | Hot Mag Fatality. | 
      
      
      I would normaly just tack the thought onto the bottom of the other thread, but
      Gary Collins was a very good man, and for that reason maybe another thread is
      in order.
      
      Gary was part of the Corvair world, as he built a Corvair powered Carlson Saprrow
      II. He was at Many Corvair Colleges, and part of the tight knit world of Ohio
      homebuilding. He had many planes over the years, many people remember his C-170.
      He also owned an 0-320 powered Tailwind, and last year, while working on
      it in his hangar, not trying to start it, just working on it, it killed him.
      
      There are some notes here http://flycorvair.net/2014/03/08/aircraft-wiring-101/. He was a very careful man, and I can say this because I see how people work at Colleges, and 30 minutes there is a better indicator than 10 years of talking around the campfire.
      
      I want to be very clear that I am in no way suggesting that I know what was wrong with his plane, or even if there was anything wrong. He was working alone and was not found for hours, it took several days in the hospital for him to die. I bring this up because frequently new people think these warnings are an anachronism, something to do with barnstorming. They are not, and perhaps a real name, and a personal tragedy provide some awareness. The story above had link to his photos on his FB page, but it has been taken down. Look at his image, he is in the white shirt, 2nd photo down here: http://flycorvair.net/2012/04/07/sun-n-fun-2012/
      
      
      Some thoughts: 
      
      
      Don't just try to shut the plane off with the mag switch. Every now and then try
      wiggling the key in the switch. Many mag switches pass the test, but if you
      jiggle the key and torment it a little, they fail. Many people put a lot of keys
      on their key ring, it is a bad idea, the weight bothers the switch. Try reaching
      behind the panel and wiggling the wiring also. Never get a used mag switch
      from anybody. They sell them in flymarts. I watched a guy take a bad one out
      of a C-120 and put it on the shelf. I suggested he just smash it with a hammer
      and toss it out, he didn't I am sure it went to a flymart. 
      
      
      The switch is no better than the crimps on the wires, and I have seen countless
      shitty chimps on homebuit P leads. This is like having a firearm with a broken
      safety. Dan Weseman and I once walked around our airport looking at mag wiring
      on RV's. 20% of the ones owned by 2nd owners had the L R backwards. Demonstrates
      that people were careless with a very critical system 50% of the planes
      were wired with wire and crimps I would deem inadequate for installing an 8-track
      in a '74 Pinto.
      
      
      Even with this said, the least reliable component of the system is the human. I
      watch people around planes very carefully, because I do not like doing anything
      with distracted idiots present. I watch people preflight planes and pull them
      out while speaking on cell phones. They are idiots, and Darwin and statistics
      will get them. Just make sure you are not collateral damage when their bill
      comes due.
      
      
      Grace was good friends with Canadian aviator Ray Fiset, who spent the last 50 years of his life in a wheel chair, as a reward for stopping a moron from walking into a prop and ended up getting it by it himself. http://www.eaa.ca/bitsandpieces/articles/2011-11_Editorial.asp
      
      There have always been stupid people, but prescription drugs and cell phones have
      made the problem more acute. Read rays story, and see that he died working
      because a scam artist stole his life savings, slowly accumulated over decades
      of living frugally in a wheelchair. They sent the scam guy to jail, but in a just
      world, they should have executed him. I spent many hours in Ray's company,
      he was a great human being. I can't find words to express this adequately.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=438051#438051
      
      
 
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