---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 02/04/15: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:20 AM - Turtledeck (Scott Knowlton) 2. 07:48 AM - Re: Turtledeck (Jack Philips) 3. 08:23 AM - Re: Turtledeck (AircamperN11MS) 4. 08:30 AM - Re: Cold Weather Piet (Bill Church) 5. 09:06 AM - Re: Cold Weather Piet (AircamperN11MS) 6. 09:52 AM - Re: Cold Weather Piet (tools) 7. 10:59 AM - Hot Mag Fatality. (William Wynne) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:20:28 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Turtledeck From: Scott Knowlton I didn't know how I was going to finish the aft end of the turtledeck where i t abuts the horizontal stab. 3 bucks worth of balsa, a little fun sanding a nd shaping and a piece of 1/16 ply did the trick. A nice shop morning befor e heading off to work. The bolt secures my hard point for the shoulder harnesses. Scott Knowlton. Burlington ON. Sent from my iPhone ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 07:48:25 AM PST US From: "Jack Philips" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Turtledeck Nice job, Scott! Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott Knowlton Sent: Wednesday, February 4, 2015 10:20 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Turtledeck I didn't know how I was going to finish the aft end of the turtledeck where it abuts the horizontal stab. 3 bucks worth of balsa, a little fun sanding and shaping and a piece of 1/16 ply did the trick. A nice shop morning before heading off to work. The bolt secures my hard point for the shoulder harnesses. Scott Knowlton. Burlington ON. ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 08:23:37 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Turtledeck From: "AircamperN11MS" That's slick. Nice touch. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=438044#438044 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 08:30:09 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Cold Weather Piet From: "Bill Church" Looking at the other photos from the Kijiji ad, it looks like the front canopy has a hinge on the top, right down the center. And the rear canopy has a slot cut into the back edge, like it would need to clear the antenna, if it was designed to slide back. However, there doesn't appear to be a track to slide on, so not sure how that might work. BC Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=438045#438045 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/canopies_181.jpg ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 09:06:31 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Cold Weather Piet From: "AircamperN11MS" Interesting thoughts everyone. The front pit is just hard to get into without the canopy. Perhaps the owner or someone near him has the answer. I'm sure it is easy once explained. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=438046#438046 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 09:52:39 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Cold Weather Piet From: "tools" So many ways to skin a cat... The back one doesn't need a track to come back, and the antenna would keep it from coming all the way out... Getting in the front like that though, wow. Could be a bifold mechanism. Any of the MN crowd working on a solution?! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=438050#438050 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 10:59:49 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Hot Mag Fatality. From: "William Wynne" I would normaly just tack the thought onto the bottom of the other thread, but Gary Collins was a very good man, and for that reason maybe another thread is in order. Gary was part of the Corvair world, as he built a Corvair powered Carlson Saprrow II. He was at Many Corvair Colleges, and part of the tight knit world of Ohio homebuilding. He had many planes over the years, many people remember his C-170. He also owned an 0-320 powered Tailwind, and last year, while working on it in his hangar, not trying to start it, just working on it, it killed him. There are some notes here http://flycorvair.net/2014/03/08/aircraft-wiring-101/. He was a very careful man, and I can say this because I see how people work at Colleges, and 30 minutes there is a better indicator than 10 years of talking around the campfire. I want to be very clear that I am in no way suggesting that I know what was wrong with his plane, or even if there was anything wrong. He was working alone and was not found for hours, it took several days in the hospital for him to die. I bring this up because frequently new people think these warnings are an anachronism, something to do with barnstorming. They are not, and perhaps a real name, and a personal tragedy provide some awareness. The story above had link to his photos on his FB page, but it has been taken down. Look at his image, he is in the white shirt, 2nd photo down here: http://flycorvair.net/2012/04/07/sun-n-fun-2012/ Some thoughts: Don't just try to shut the plane off with the mag switch. Every now and then try wiggling the key in the switch. Many mag switches pass the test, but if you jiggle the key and torment it a little, they fail. Many people put a lot of keys on their key ring, it is a bad idea, the weight bothers the switch. Try reaching behind the panel and wiggling the wiring also. Never get a used mag switch from anybody. They sell them in flymarts. I watched a guy take a bad one out of a C-120 and put it on the shelf. I suggested he just smash it with a hammer and toss it out, he didn't I am sure it went to a flymart. The switch is no better than the crimps on the wires, and I have seen countless shitty chimps on homebuit P leads. This is like having a firearm with a broken safety. Dan Weseman and I once walked around our airport looking at mag wiring on RV's. 20% of the ones owned by 2nd owners had the L R backwards. Demonstrates that people were careless with a very critical system 50% of the planes were wired with wire and crimps I would deem inadequate for installing an 8-track in a '74 Pinto. Even with this said, the least reliable component of the system is the human. I watch people around planes very carefully, because I do not like doing anything with distracted idiots present. I watch people preflight planes and pull them out while speaking on cell phones. They are idiots, and Darwin and statistics will get them. Just make sure you are not collateral damage when their bill comes due. Grace was good friends with Canadian aviator Ray Fiset, who spent the last 50 years of his life in a wheel chair, as a reward for stopping a moron from walking into a prop and ended up getting it by it himself. http://www.eaa.ca/bitsandpieces/articles/2011-11_Editorial.asp There have always been stupid people, but prescription drugs and cell phones have made the problem more acute. Read rays story, and see that he died working because a scam artist stole his life savings, slowly accumulated over decades of living frugally in a wheelchair. They sent the scam guy to jail, but in a just world, they should have executed him. I spent many hours in Ray's company, he was a great human being. I can't find words to express this adequately. 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