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1. 10:19 AM - Pietenpol Rib Building [Video] (Riegerb)
2. 11:30 AM - Re: Pietenpol Rib Building [Video] (Ray Krause)
3. 02:01 PM - New member and a few questions already (Andy Garrett)
4. 02:44 PM - Re: Pietenpol Rib Building [Video] (CatDesigns)
5. 06:07 PM - Re: Pietenpol Rib Building [Video] (Gary Boothe)
6. 08:29 PM - Re: New member and a few questions already (glenschweizer@yahoo.com)
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| Subject: | Pietenpol Rib Building [Video] |
A sped-up time-lapse video of my dad building a rib for the Pietenpol. Now do it
32x fast! =)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI59zR2rIsI&feature=youtu.be
Brian
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol Rib Building [Video] |
Neat! Keep up the good work. Only about five years to go!
Ray Krause
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> On Feb 21, 2015, at 10:19 AM, Riegerb <rieger.brian12@gmail.com> wrote:
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> A sped-up time-lapse video of my dad building a rib for the Pietenpol. Now do
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| Subject: | New member and a few questions already |
Hi there,
I'm Andy Garrett from Haysville, KS (suburb of Wichita). I recently sold my TEAM
Airbike which I owned for a year, but did not build. At 6'2" and 255lbs, the
little Rotax 447 was just not enough to get acceptable performance.
I am now in possession of a new set of Pietenpol Air Camper plans with all the
options, manual, the works. I also have Chet Peek's book The Pietenpol Story,
and have poured over the Pietenpol website with a good email exchange with Andrerw
Pietenpol--great guy.
I also ordered William Wynn's Corvair conversion manual, but have not yet received
it.
I (like Andrew Pietenpol it seems) have completed a plans built mahogany boat designed
by Glen L. Witt of Glen-L Marine. Thus, I have considerable experience
with wood working tools, epoxies, paints and coatings, etc. So, I have confidence
that my craftsmanship will be up to par.
My questions are based on things I've read on a variety of websites and forums
about the Piet.
First: I will build the Air Camper as a single seat ship with a generous baggage
compartment where the front seat would normally be.
Second: I would like to entertain the possibility of a wider fuselage--just a few
inches. To simplify this mod, I would like to widen the center section of the
three-piece wing by an equal amount (I saw a widened center section on the
'West Coast Pietenpol' website). This might also allow for a slightly larger wing
tank which appeals to me. I want long-legged cross country capability in this
craft.
Third: CG questions plague my mind with such a setup. Do I leave the rear seat
where it is and make cabane angle adjustments? Should I make longer cabane struts
to allow for this and to keep the pilot access flap out of my face?
Forth: At my weight, do I target the 120HP Corvair for best climb performance or
is this excessive for the mount/firewall?
Finally: I want to keep usable load as high as possible, so I am leaning toward
a built-up 'I' beam type spar as there is a considerable amount of information
on this type available for homebuilts in general. Does anyone herein have experience
with this method? I know I do not care for the idea of routing spars.
I have yet to decide on gear type, but I'm leaning toward whatever is lightest
with tall thin wheels.
Sorry for my lack of brevity. I'm just eager to get some of these issues resolved
in my mind so I can see the long path ahead and get started.
Thanks for any and all assistance.
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Andy Garrett
'General Purpose Creative Dude'
Haysville, Kansas
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| Subject: | Pietenpol Rib Building [Video] |
Brian
Wish I would have thought to have had my dad build the ribs. Would have
been much quicker in the long run.
It was nice meeting you and your dad at Ray's house.
Chris
Sacramento, CA
WestcoastPiet.com
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Riegerb
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 10:19 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Rib Building [Video]
--> <rieger.brian12@gmail.com>
A sped-up time-lapse video of my dad building a rib for the Pietenpol. Now
do it 32x fast! =)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI59zR2rIsI&feature=youtu.be
Brian
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riegerpietenpol.tumblr.com
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=438555#438555
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| Subject: | Pietenpol Rib Building [Video] |
The right amount of coffee will do that, too. Nice job!
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of CatDesigns
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 2:44 PM
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Rib Building [Video]
Brian
Wish I would have thought to have had my dad build the ribs. Would have
been much quicker in the long run.
It was nice meeting you and your dad at Ray's house.
Chris
Sacramento, CA
WestcoastPiet.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Riegerb
Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2015 10:19 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Rib Building [Video]
--> <rieger.brian12@gmail.com>
A sped-up time-lapse video of my dad building a rib for the Pietenpol. Now
do it 32x fast! =)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI59zR2rIsI&feature=youtu.be
Brian
--------
riegerpietenpol.tumblr.com
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=438555#438555
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| Subject: | Re: New member and a few questions already |
Hi Andy,welcome!
My name is Glen. I've recently started an Aerial, the biplane version of the pietenpol
developed by Chad Wille. I too plan to use a WW Corvair conversion.
I had originally planned on the 120HP but have since decided to go with the 110HP
instead. The 120 requires machine work on heads and case to use larger diameter
cylinders. I don't want to pay shipping to Florida and back to have that
done.
I have widened the fuse on mine as well. It is 30" wide. My sister wants to
ride and is a bit wider than a 13" wide seat would comfortably accomodate.
There are a few other cosmetic mods, but you'll find that no two pietenpol
"snowflakes" are alike.
Mr. Pietenpol designed a very rugged
Airplane. When using the Corvair engine you'll be building a stretched fuse for
CG reasons(see West Coast Piet site). So many of these airplanes have been built
over the past 85 years that many successful changes have been made. Realize
that every change will effect something else. Have more experienced people
check your ideas and work. ASK LOTS OF QUESTIONS...this forum has lots of very
knowledgable members. No such thing as a dumb question . Look in the archives
as well. Your question has probably been asked and answered before.
Sorry to ramble. Again,welcome,and enjoy your build. You'll be surprised at
how fast components become identifiable as airplane parts. I've been working
on mine for three week ends. By quitin time tomorrow, fuse will be boxed.
All the best, Glen
Sent from my iPhone
> On Feb 21, 2015, at 2:01 PM, "Andy Garrett" <andy_garrett@live.com> wrote:
>
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> Hi there,
>
> I'm Andy Garrett from Haysville, KS (suburb of Wichita). I recently sold my TEAM
Airbike which I owned for a year, but did not build. At 6'2" and 255lbs, the
little Rotax 447 was just not enough to get acceptable performance.
>
> I am now in possession of a new set of Pietenpol Air Camper plans with all the
options, manual, the works. I also have Chet Peek's book The Pietenpol Story,
and have poured over the Pietenpol website with a good email exchange with Andrerw
Pietenpol--great guy.
>
> I also ordered William Wynn's Corvair conversion manual, but have not yet received
it.
>
> I (like Andrew Pietenpol it seems) have completed a plans built mahogany boat
designed by Glen L. Witt of Glen-L Marine. Thus, I have considerable experience
with wood working tools, epoxies, paints and coatings, etc. So, I have confidence
that my craftsmanship will be up to par.
>
> My questions are based on things I've read on a variety of websites and forums
about the Piet.
>
> First: I will build the Air Camper as a single seat ship with a generous baggage
compartment where the front seat would normally be.
>
> Second: I would like to entertain the possibility of a wider fuselage--just a
few inches. To simplify this mod, I would like to widen the center section of
the three-piece wing by an equal amount (I saw a widened center section on the
'West Coast Pietenpol' website). This might also allow for a slightly larger
wing tank which appeals to me. I want long-legged cross country capability in
this craft.
>
> Third: CG questions plague my mind with such a setup. Do I leave the rear seat
where it is and make cabane angle adjustments? Should I make longer cabane struts
to allow for this and to keep the pilot access flap out of my face?
>
> Forth: At my weight, do I target the 120HP Corvair for best climb performance
or is this excessive for the mount/firewall?
>
> Finally: I want to keep usable load as high as possible, so I am leaning toward
a built-up 'I' beam type spar as there is a considerable amount of information
on this type available for homebuilts in general. Does anyone herein have
experience with this method? I know I do not care for the idea of routing spars.
>
> I have yet to decide on gear type, but I'm leaning toward whatever is lightest
with tall thin wheels.
>
> Sorry for my lack of brevity. I'm just eager to get some of these issues resolved
in my mind so I can see the long path ahead and get started.
>
> Thanks for any and all assistance.
>
> --------
> Andy Garrett
> 'General Purpose Creative Dude'
> Haysville, Kansas
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> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=438558#438558
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