Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Sat 03/14/15


Total Messages Posted: 6



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     1. 07:03 AM - Upcoming trips to Houston and Los Angeles... (Jim Markle)
     2. 09:44 AM - Re: BPA (Andy Garrett)
     3. 04:50 PM - engine mount (Andy Garrett)
     4. 05:10 PM - Re: engine mount (jarheadpilot82)
     5. 05:27 PM - Re: engine mount (jarheadpilot82)
     6. 10:35 PM - Re: engine mount (William Wynne)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:03:07 AM PST US
    From: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
    Subject: Upcoming trips to Houston and Los Angeles...
    I'll be working in Houston next week and Burbank the following week...anyone available if I was to invite myself over for a visit? Jim in Pryor Sent from my smartphone.


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    Time: 09:44:34 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: BPA
    From: "Andy Garrett" <andy_garrett@live.com>
    Thanks to all for the comments. Above all, I want this process to be fun. My 3.5 year boat build was the most rewarding experience of my life (and I've had an interesting life so far). I expect the Piet to be the same only more so. William, thanks for taking the time to comment, I know how busy you are with nearly back to back CCs. I've been buried in my Corvair Conversion Manual for weeks now, and have found the tone to be motivating. So much of this pursuit is very technical and it is easy to loose sight of 'why' we chose this path. Thus, it becomes easier to accept one of those thousand reasons to quit that you mentioned. Your style of information presentation never strays far from the philosophical reason we do this. This type of encouragement drives my desire to absorb as much as I can from all angles. I just want to get started, because I know how I respond once I get rolling--I will have momentum and that will get things done. Life will eventually intervene, but in good bursts..., it'll keep moving along. I just have to save some $$$ for the crank and bearing work (as I hunt for an engine). Everyone wants to sell the whole car as a package for more than I want to spend. I will be patient and press on. Thanks again. -------- Andy Garrett 'General Purpose Creative Dude' Haysville, Kansas Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=439368#439368


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    Time: 04:50:21 PM PST US
    Subject: engine mount
    From: "Andy Garrett" <andy_garrett@live.com>
    So..., I have an interest in making my own mount for the Corvair per BHP's plans, but at a higher thrust line. I suspect I'll need a slightly bigger prop. Does anyone know the difference is between the 'standard' thrust line and the 'high' thrust line? -------- Andy Garrett 'General Purpose Creative Dude' Haysville, Kansas Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=439388#439388


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    Time: 05:10:10 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: engine mount
    From: "jarheadpilot82" <jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com>
    Andy, Not to put you off, but there is more info on this subject on the FlyCorvair.net and FlyCorvair.com websites than here. I would email William Wynne directly to get more info about this aspect of your build. -------- Semper Fi, Terry Hand Athens, GA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=439389#439389


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    Time: 05:27:32 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: engine mount
    From: "jarheadpilot82" <jarheadpilot82@hotmail.com>
    Your comment about a larger prop caused me to pull up this link- http://flycorvair.net/?s=Propeller&submit=Search Maybe this will help you some. -------- Semper Fi, Terry Hand Athens, GA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=439393#439393


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    Time: 10:35:59 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: engine mount
    From: "William Wynne" <WilliamTCA@aol.com>
    Andy, To further Terry's comments: If you have a question about the stuff we do with Corvairs, I like to cover that on our own sites. I try to make all my comments here applicable to all Piet builders. I am glad to share stuff about what BHP did with Corvairs here, but I like to keep anything that sounds like commercial work or customer service on our own sites. If you missed it this page: http://flycorvair.net/2013/11/28/corvair-pietenpol-reference-page/ has links to a few dozen stories I wrote on Piets and our work with them. Detailed answers to your mount questions can be found there. To be clear, 'High thrust line' is just a descriptive term I made up to differentiate The mounts we make from BHP Corvair mounts. There is about 3" difference, but our mounts are also 3" longer, as a result of things we learned from the weight and balance project: ( http://flycorvair.net/2014/02/23/pietenpol-weight-and-balance-project/ ) If you look at the BHP mount, it has two legs that come back to meet the cross reinforcement 2/3rds of the way up the fuselage. You can't just make it 3" taller, it will not meet any structure. Our mounts just contact the four longerons. Study the pictures in the links and it will make sense. I actually do not have a drawing for our mounts, I just built a fixture and have made about 20 of them. BHP selected the thrust line he used because it was very close to the Ford's location, it worked with original fuselages, and he needed the vertical clearance to fit the Corvair's stock blower fan, which we do not use. Terry's comments on what we do are pretty accurate because He comes to the Colleges, is a good researcher and voracious reader, he has a complete and test run Corvair, a fully welded fuselage, and most of his wings done. I listen to his thoughts on flying because he has about 25K hours flying Boeings around the globe, a long stint as an instructor at Pensacola, an active CFI and good judgment. Our Pietenpol page has a very good guest editorial of his on risk management. -ww. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=439402#439402




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