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1. 05:54 AM - Re: A65 Engine Start (Jack Philips)
2. 06:52 AM - Re: A65 Engine Start (Matt Paxton)
3. 07:15 AM - Re: A65 Engine Start (Jeff Martin)
4. 08:12 AM - Re: A65 Engine Start (Bill Budgell)
5. 09:17 AM - Re: A65 Engine Start (Dan Yocum)
6. 09:23 AM - Re: Speaking of getting started..... (Don Emch)
7. 09:36 AM - An invitation (Don Emch)
8. 12:53 PM - Re: A65 Engine Start (Gmail)
9. 04:46 PM - Newest Piet pilot! (Jeff Boatright)
10. 08:30 PM - Re: Newest Piet pilot! (Ray Krause)
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| Subject: | A65 Engine Start |
Peter it sounds to me like you have a slight vacuum leak, probably around
the rubber fittings that connect the tubes from the intake spider to the
individual cylinders. Running carb heat tends to richen the mixture
slightly so if that makes it run smoother it is probably a bit too lean. I
had the same problem when I first built my A65.
A dangerous but effective way to determine where the leak is located is to
use a spray bottle filled with gasoline (petrol?), and as the engine is
running roughly, spray the gasoline on the outside of the suspected leak
area. If the engine smoothes out, you have found the leak.
Good luck with it!
Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter
Johnson
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 1:39 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: A65 Engine Start
Hi Guys,
I have been trying a few engine starts on my newly rebuilt A65.
I had a few problems along the way but now have most of the sorted.
I still have one problem though.
I can start the engine after one primer stroke, pull through once and then
the next starts. Very good so far.
Tick over is good (600 or 700 rpm presently) but as I advance the throttle,
the engine starts to miss and generally run rough. If I operate the carb
heat all is well.
I have managed a max rpm of 2100 static at the moment and feel it could go
another 100 or so.
If I put the carb heat to cold the engine starts running rough again.
I took the air filter off the front of the carb to see if it made any
difference thinking there may be a rich/lean mixture. It didn't make any
difference.
Any ideas?
Thanks
Peter
Wonthaggi Australia
http://repiet.cpc-world.com
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| Subject: | RE: A65 Engine Start |
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| Subject: | Re: A65 Engine Start |
Im told WD40 will do the same and allot safer.
Jeff Martin
> On Mar 22, 2015, at 8:54 AM, Jack Philips <jack@bedfordlandings.com> wrote
:
>
> Peter it sounds to me like you have a slight vacuum leak, probably around t
he rubber fittings that connect the tubes from the intake spider to the indi
vidual cylinders. Running carb heat tends to richen the mixture slightly so
if that makes it run smoother it is probably a bit too lean. I had the sam
e problem when I first built my A65.
>
> A dangerous but effective way to determine where the leak is located is to
use a spray bottle filled with gasoline (petrol?), and as the engine is run
ning roughly, spray the gasoline on the outside of the suspected leak area.
If the engine smoothes out, you have found the leak.
>
> Good luck with it!
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li
st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter Johnson
> Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 1:39 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: A65 Engine Start
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> I have been trying a few engine starts on my newly rebuilt A65.
>
> I had a few problems along the way but now have most of the sorted.
>
> I still have one problem though.
>
> I can start the engine after one primer stroke, pull through once and then
the next starts. Very good so far.
>
> Tick over is good (600 or 700 rpm presently) but as I advance the throttle
, the engine starts to miss and generally run rough. If I operate the carb h
eat all is well.
>
> I have managed a max rpm of 2100 static at the moment and feel it could go
another 100 or so.
>
> If I put the carb heat to cold the engine starts running rough again.
>
> I took the air filter off the front of the carb to see if it made any diff
erence thinking there may be a rich/lean mixture. It didn=99t make any
difference.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks
>
> Peter
> Wonthaggi Australia
> http://repiet.cpc-world.com
>
>
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
> http://forums.matronics.com
> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: A65 Engine Start |
Hello Peter
Bill Budgell from Canada.... reading your post here.
I wouldn't spray gas on the intakes as suggested that's not very smart to d
o I don't think I need to tell you why. First when was the carb rebuilt....
what setting do you have it set at on the main jet the big screw?. How are
the=C2-spark plug wires rough or new ..... have you checked the ohms on
the spark plugs or are they new.... what colour are the plugs black brown e
tc... when you take them out to inspect that will tell a lot of information
If you had a vac leak you would be getting some popping when you closed th
e throttle ... if you think you have a vac leak undo the rubber clamps on t
he intakes and retighten but don't over tighten them .=C2-=C2-... get a
continental A-65 manual and read it and follow the manual for set up.
If all fails find an engineer to help you and learn from him it will be saf
er in the long run for you...=C2- When that engine is set up right you sh
ould be able to pull it through 4 times set the throttle and start every ti
me.
Pulling the prop through more than 4 time un-primes the cylinders a lot of
people don't understand that?......
Let me know what you have set up see if I can get you going from here.
Bill AME Canada=C2-
=C2-
=C2- From: Peter Johnson <vk3eka@bigpond.net.au>
To: "pietenpol-list@matronics.com" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 1:39 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: A65 Engine Start
Hi Guys,
I have been trying a few engine starts on my newly rebuilt A65.
I had a few problems along the way but now have most of the sorted.
I still have one problem though.
I can start the engine after one primer stroke, pull through once and then
the next starts. Very good so far.
Tick over is good (600 or 700 rpm presently) but as I advance the throttle,
the engine starts to miss and generally run rough. If I operate the carb h
eat all is well.
I have managed a max rpm of 2100 static at the moment and feel it could go
another 100 or so.
If I put the carb heat to cold the engine starts running rough again.
I took the air filter off the front of the carb to see if it made any diffe
rence thinking there may be a rich/lean mixture. It didn=99t make any
difference.
Any ideas?
Thanks
PeterWonthaggi Australiahttp://repiet.cpc-world.com
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| Subject: | Re: A65 Engine Start |
The previous owner of N8031 had a similar issue - one of the tubes to the cy
linders slipped a bit and he was losing vacuum.
Peter - have read Harry Fenton's page on small Continentals? Most of us Yan
ks consider him the authority in such manners (and some Suthinahs like Jack d
o too). IIRC there's a section in there describing just your situation. So
mething to do with clogged bleed holes in the carb...
http://bowersflybaby.com/tech/fenton.htm#a65_hesitation
Best,
Dan
--
Dan Yocum
On Mar 22, 2015, at 7:54 AM, "Jack Philips" <jack@bedfordlandings.com> wrote
:
> Peter it sounds to me like you have a slight vacuum leak, probably around t
he rubber fittings that connect the tubes from the intake spider to the indi
vidual cylinders. Running carb heat tends to richen the mixture slightly so
if that makes it run smoother it is probably a bit too lean. I had the sam
e problem when I first built my A65.
>
> A dangerous but effective way to determine where the leak is located is to
use a spray bottle filled with gasoline (petrol?), and as the engine is run
ning roughly, spray the gasoline on the outside of the suspected leak area.
If the engine smoothes out, you have found the leak.
>
> Good luck with it!
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li
st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter Johnson
> Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 1:39 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: A65 Engine Start
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> I have been trying a few engine starts on my newly rebuilt A65.
>
> I had a few problems along the way but now have most of the sorted.
>
> I still have one problem though.
>
> I can start the engine after one primer stroke, pull through once and then
the next starts. Very good so far.
>
> Tick over is good (600 or 700 rpm presently) but as I advance the throttle
, the engine starts to miss and generally run rough. If I operate the carb h
eat all is well.
>
> I have managed a max rpm of 2100 static at the moment and feel it could go
another 100 or so.
>
> If I put the carb heat to cold the engine starts running rough again.
>
> I took the air filter off the front of the carb to see if it made any diff
erence thinking there may be a rich/lean mixture. It didn=99t make any
difference.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks
>
> Peter
> Wonthaggi Australia
> http://repiet.cpc-world.com
>
>
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
> http://forums.matronics.com
> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Speaking of getting started..... |
Been away for a while. Stopped back just to check in... I see not much has changed
around here. That's too bad.
Don Emch
NX899DE
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=439732#439732
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I saw in another thread that one of the members here invited another to stop by
for a visit. I just wanted to throw out a general invitation too. If any of you
are in the Eastern/Northeastern Ohio area, please feel free to contact me.
I love to talk Piets and share ideas... You are welcome to come take a look.
WingWright@gmail.com is best.
Don Emch
NX899DE
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=439733#439733
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| Subject: | Re: A65 Engine Start |
A small propane bottle works well for that too.
Greg Bacon
> On Mar 22, 2015, at 7:54 AM, Jack Philips <jack@bedfordlandings.com> wrote
:
>
> Peter it sounds to me like you have a slight vacuum leak, probably around t
he rubber fittings that connect the tubes from the intake spider to the indi
vidual cylinders. Running carb heat tends to richen the mixture slightly so
if that makes it run smoother it is probably a bit too lean. I had the sam
e problem when I first built my A65.
>
> A dangerous but effective way to determine where the leak is located is to
use a spray bottle filled with gasoline (petrol?), and as the engine is run
ning roughly, spray the gasoline on the outside of the suspected leak area.
If the engine smoothes out, you have found the leak.
>
> Good luck with it!
>
> Jack Phillips
> NX899JP
> Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
>
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-li
st-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Peter Johnson
> Sent: Sunday, March 22, 2015 1:39 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: A65 Engine Start
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> I have been trying a few engine starts on my newly rebuilt A65.
>
> I had a few problems along the way but now have most of the sorted.
>
> I still have one problem though.
>
> I can start the engine after one primer stroke, pull through once and then
the next starts. Very good so far.
>
> Tick over is good (600 or 700 rpm presently) but as I advance the throttle
, the engine starts to miss and generally run rough. If I operate the carb h
eat all is well.
>
> I have managed a max rpm of 2100 static at the moment and feel it could go
another 100 or so.
>
> If I put the carb heat to cold the engine starts running rough again.
>
> I took the air filter off the front of the carb to see if it made any diff
erence thinking there may be a rich/lean mixture. It didn=99t make any
difference.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Thanks
>
> Peter
> Wonthaggi Australia
> http://repiet.cpc-world.com
>
>
>
>
> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
> http://forums.matronics.com
> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Newest Piet pilot! |
Hi All,
I gave a ride to my friend and colleague, Andy Butler. He is part owner of a Mooney,
flies CAP Cessnas and gliders a lot, and has some float time. BUT, he's
never flown open cockpit or taildragger.
So, we fixed that:
https://youtu.be/vSztlgt22l4
It's a little upsetting. He lands my airplane better than I do!
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=439745#439745
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| Subject: | Re: Newest Piet pilot! |
Jeff,
Great video, thanks!
Ray Krause
Sent from my iPad
> On Mar 22, 2015, at 4:46 PM, Jeff Boatright <jeffboatright@emory.edu> wrote:
>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I gave a ride to my friend and colleague, Andy Butler. He is part owner of a
Mooney, flies CAP Cessnas and gliders a lot, and has some float time. BUT, he's
never flown open cockpit or taildragger.
>
> So, we fixed that:
>
> https://youtu.be/vSztlgt22l4
>
>
> It's a little upsetting. He lands my airplane better than I do!
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=439745#439745
>
>
>
>
>
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