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     1. 05:44 AM - flying other's piets (Douwe Blumberg)
     2. 09:49 AM - Re: flying other's piets (danhelsper@aol.com)
     3. 11:51 AM - Re: flying other's piets (tools)
     4. 04:22 PM - Sobering Lesson (Jack Philips)
     5. 05:00 PM - Re: Andy flies from the rear pit of the Piet (Jeff Boatright)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | flying other's piets | 
      
      I share Gary's feelings completely.  I'd be so tense to fly someone else's
      pride and joy that it would probably ruin the experience for me, though I am
      curious to compare flight characteristics between individual piets.
      
      
      On the contrary however, I have really enjoy watching other people
      (well-qualified people that is.) fly "RE-PIET".  It is so cool to see her in
      her element watching from the ground.
      
      
      Douwe
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: flying other's piets | 
      
      
      Me too. A few years ago I was asked by Tim Gallagher to help fly-off the fi
      rst 40 hours on his brand new Pober Jr. Ace. I declined. When he was depart
      ing OSH that year a weld broke on a rudder pedal resulting in a T-off misha
      p. Could have been me.
      
      Dan Helsper
      Loensloe Airfield
      Puryear TN
      
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: Douwe Blumberg <douweblumberg@earthlink.net>
      Sent: Fri, Apr 10, 2015 7:44 am
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: flying other's piets
      
      
      I share Gary=99s feelings completely.  I=99d be so tense to fly
       someone else=99s pride and joy that it would probably ruin the exper
      ience for me, though I am curious to compare flight characteristics between
       individual piets.
      
      
      On the contrary however, I have really enjoy watching other people (well-qu
      alified people that is) fly =9CRE-PIET=9D.  It is so c
      ool to see her in her element watching from the ground.
      
      
      Douwe
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: flying other's piets | 
      
      
      The plane my father built, 8 yrs building, sold it after 8 months, was at brodhead
      this year.  Had a smoke tank in the front seat so couldn't get a ride.  Was
      really trying to get my son a ride in it as he'd never seen it fly, but remembers
      grand dad building.  
      
      The owner offered to just let me take it up... Was tough to decline.  All I kept
      thinking was that I really don't have the experience to know if I'm experienced
      enough or not!  Which put me in the if there's any doubt, there's no doubt
      regime.
      
      I, too, enjoy letting other folks fly my plane.  The BEST, and most nerve wracking,
      is watching your son take it up, at eighteen, his first solo, the only plane
      he's ever flown.  In all honesty, and about how I feel when anyone takes her
      up, not so worried about the plane as the person.
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=440581#440581
      
      
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      Here is something I just got from the Matronics RV-10 list.  It is the
      NTSB's ruling on probably cause of a fatal RV-10 crash, but the cause and
      the lesson could apply equally well to Pietenpols:
      
      
      http://www.ntsb.gov/_layouts/ntsb.aviation/GeneratePDF.aspx?id=WPR14FA218
      <http://www.ntsb.gov/_layouts/ntsb.aviation/GeneratePDF.aspx?id=WPR14FA218&r
      pt=fi> &rpt=fi
      
      
      Essentially, the plane crashed, killing two people and injuring a third,
      because the pilot/builder, against the advice of knowledgeable mechanics,
      used RTV silicone caulking as a sealant on components in his fuel system.
      The engine failed on climbout after takeoff due to a large bead of silicone
      caulking blocking the fuel flow transducer, and starving the engine of fuel.
      Then the pilot stalled and spun in during the subsequent off-airport
      landing.
      
      
      In spite of all the rancorous comments on this list recently, there is a
      wealth of knowledge among the folks on this list.  Please use it, and don't
      feel that any question is silly or not worth asking.  If this fellow had
      asked "is it ok to use silicone caulking or Teflon tape on fuel system
      components", and then HEEDED the answer he got, he and his passenger would
      be alive today.
      
      
      Y'all be safe out there
      
      
      Jack Phillips
      
      NX899JP
      
      Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Andy flies from the rear pit of the Piet | 
      
      
      Hey Gary,
      
      You make good points, and I've declined flying some planes owned by others for
      those same reasons. But, I was pretty comfortable with Andy flying from the rear
      pit. I'd taken him up several times in the front pit and, heck, his landings
      were/are better than mine! He's been flying since 14 and has lots of time in
      gliders, so though these were his first experiences with a true taildragger,
      he did super. It was a lot of fun "teaching" a scant bit of tailwheel technique.
      
      Hope you guys have a great weekend flying!
      
      Jeff
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=440609#440609
      
      
 
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