---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 04/10/15: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:44 AM - flying other's piets (Douwe Blumberg) 2. 09:49 AM - Re: flying other's piets (danhelsper@aol.com) 3. 11:51 AM - Re: flying other's piets (tools) 4. 04:22 PM - Sobering Lesson (Jack Philips) 5. 05:00 PM - Re: Andy flies from the rear pit of the Piet (Jeff Boatright) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:44:21 AM PST US From: "Douwe Blumberg" Subject: Pietenpol-List: flying other's piets I share Gary's feelings completely. I'd be so tense to fly someone else's pride and joy that it would probably ruin the experience for me, though I am curious to compare flight characteristics between individual piets. On the contrary however, I have really enjoy watching other people (well-qualified people that is.) fly "RE-PIET". It is so cool to see her in her element watching from the ground. Douwe ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:49:36 AM PST US From: danhelsper@aol.com Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: flying other's piets Me too. A few years ago I was asked by Tim Gallagher to help fly-off the fi rst 40 hours on his brand new Pober Jr. Ace. I declined. When he was depart ing OSH that year a weld broke on a rudder pedal resulting in a T-off misha p. Could have been me. Dan Helsper Loensloe Airfield Puryear TN -----Original Message----- From: Douwe Blumberg Sent: Fri, Apr 10, 2015 7:44 am Subject: Pietenpol-List: flying other's piets I share Gary=99s feelings completely. I=99d be so tense to fly someone else=99s pride and joy that it would probably ruin the exper ience for me, though I am curious to compare flight characteristics between individual piets. On the contrary however, I have really enjoy watching other people (well-qu alified people that is) fly =9CRE-PIET=9D. It is so c ool to see her in her element watching from the ground. Douwe ==== ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 11:51:58 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: flying other's piets From: "tools" The plane my father built, 8 yrs building, sold it after 8 months, was at brodhead this year. Had a smoke tank in the front seat so couldn't get a ride. Was really trying to get my son a ride in it as he'd never seen it fly, but remembers grand dad building. The owner offered to just let me take it up... Was tough to decline. All I kept thinking was that I really don't have the experience to know if I'm experienced enough or not! Which put me in the if there's any doubt, there's no doubt regime. I, too, enjoy letting other folks fly my plane. The BEST, and most nerve wracking, is watching your son take it up, at eighteen, his first solo, the only plane he's ever flown. In all honesty, and about how I feel when anyone takes her up, not so worried about the plane as the person. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=440581#440581 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 04:22:44 PM PST US From: "Jack Philips" Subject: Pietenpol-List: Sobering Lesson Here is something I just got from the Matronics RV-10 list. It is the NTSB's ruling on probably cause of a fatal RV-10 crash, but the cause and the lesson could apply equally well to Pietenpols: http://www.ntsb.gov/_layouts/ntsb.aviation/GeneratePDF.aspx?id=WPR14FA218 &rpt=fi Essentially, the plane crashed, killing two people and injuring a third, because the pilot/builder, against the advice of knowledgeable mechanics, used RTV silicone caulking as a sealant on components in his fuel system. The engine failed on climbout after takeoff due to a large bead of silicone caulking blocking the fuel flow transducer, and starving the engine of fuel. Then the pilot stalled and spun in during the subsequent off-airport landing. In spite of all the rancorous comments on this list recently, there is a wealth of knowledge among the folks on this list. Please use it, and don't feel that any question is silly or not worth asking. If this fellow had asked "is it ok to use silicone caulking or Teflon tape on fuel system components", and then HEEDED the answer he got, he and his passenger would be alive today. Y'all be safe out there Jack Phillips NX899JP Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 05:00:53 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Andy flies from the rear pit of the Piet From: "Jeff Boatright" Hey Gary, You make good points, and I've declined flying some planes owned by others for those same reasons. But, I was pretty comfortable with Andy flying from the rear pit. I'd taken him up several times in the front pit and, heck, his landings were/are better than mine! He's been flying since 14 and has lots of time in gliders, so though these were his first experiences with a true taildragger, he did super. It was a lot of fun "teaching" a scant bit of tailwheel technique. Hope you guys have a great weekend flying! Jeff Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=440609#440609 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.