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     1. 05:42 AM - Re: Ray Allen stick grip (Charles N. Campbell)
     2. 05:58 AM - Re: Ray Allen stick grip (Gary Boothe)
     3. 08:44 AM - Fernando at Sun-n-Fun (Ben Charvet)
     4. 09:04 AM - Re: Fernando at Sun-n-Fun (Jack Philips)
     5. 05:04 PM - Too smart.... by half. (danhelsper@aol.com)
     6. 05:34 PM - Re: Too smart.... by half. (Jack Philips)
     7. 07:14 PM - Re: Too smart.... by half. (Jack)
     8. 08:52 PM - Re: Ray Allen stick grip (taildrags)
     9. 09:04 PM - Re: Too smart.... by half. (taildrags)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: Ray Allen stick grip | 
      
      Oscar, at your insistence I bought a stick grip like you talked about.
      Now, the problem is -- getting the old stick grip off.  Tried just sliding
      it off -- no luck.  Guess I will have to cut it off.  Then I will have to
      buy another one for the front stick -- was going to use the one in the
      pilot's pit to use in the front.  No such luck.  Do I need another Ray
      Allen grip in the front?  Does the front passenger ever talk to you?  I
      think I will just use a push-to-talk switch somewhere else in the cockpit
      to keep the passenger's hands off the control stick!
      
      Thanks, Chuck
      
      On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 9:45 PM, Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com>
      wrote:
      
      > Oscar, looking at the helmet, do you think you could put a headset in
      > them?  I like the idea of  classic looking with head protection better than
      > a leather. Hat.
      > On Apr 21, 2015 10:44 PM, "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote:
      >
      >>
      >> Okay, Jeff (Boatright)- I took some photos of my stick grip and PTT
      >> setup.  Rather than clutter up the list with images, if anyone is
      >> interested you can go to
      >> http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/stick/stick.html and I've put up the
      >> photos and narrative.
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      >> --------
      >> Oscar Zuniga
      >> Medford, OR
      >> Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
      >> A75 power
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| Subject:  | Ray Allen stick grip | 
      
      Chuck,
      
      
      I flew with a Stearman pilot who did just exactly thatput the 
      PTT switch on the side, for the reason you suggest.
      
      
      Gary Boothe
      
      NX308MB
      
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com 
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Charles 
      N. Campbell
      Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 5:42 AM
      Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Ray Allen stick grip
      
      
      Oscar, at your insistence I bought a stick grip like you talked about.  
      Now, the problem is -- getting the old stick grip off.  Tried just 
      sliding it off -- no luck.  Guess I will have to cut it off.  Then I 
      will have to buy another one for the front stick -- was going to use the 
      one in the pilot's pit to use in the front.  No such luck.  Do I need 
      another Ray Allen grip in the front?  Does the front passenger ever talk 
      to you?  I think I will just use a push-to-talk switch somewhere else in 
      the cockpit to keep the passenger's hands off the control stick!  
      
      
      Thanks, Chuck
      
      
      On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 9:45 PM, Steven Dortch 
      <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com> wrote:
      
      Oscar, looking at the helmet, do you think you could put a headset in 
      them?  I like the idea of  classic looking with head protection better 
      than a leather. Hat.
      
      On Apr 21, 2015 10:44 PM, "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote:
      
      <taildrags@hotmail.com>
      
      Okay, Jeff (Boatright)- I took some photos of my stick grip and PTT 
      setup.  Rather than clutter up the list with images, if anyone is 
      interested you can go to 
      http://www.flysquirrel.net/piets/stick/stick.html and I've put up the 
      photos and narrative.
      
      --------
      Oscar Zuniga
      Medford, OR
      Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
      A75 power
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=441112#441112
      
      
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| Subject:  | Fernando at Sun-n-Fun | 
      
      Our new friend Fernando, building a rib. He knows Santiago M and he is build
      ing A Ford powered Piet in Argentina 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Fernando at Sun-n-Fun | 
      
      
      Very Cool!  Go Fernando!
      
      Jack Phillips
      NX899JP
      Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
      
      -----Original Message-----
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      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ben Charvet
      Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 11:43 AM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fernando at Sun-n-Fun
      
      Our new friend Fernando, building a rib. He knows Santiago M and he is
      building A Ford powered Piet in Argentina 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Too smart.... by half. | 
      
      
      Fellow Pietenpolers,
      
      While doing all my springtime preliminaries, maintenance items etc. to get the
      Loensloe airplane ready for flight, I decided to re-make and replace some of the
      steel tube components that connect and hold the radiator hoses in place. The
      old ones were getting corroded on the inside pretty bad along with the interface
      surfaces that come in contact with the rubber radiator hoses. As a matter
      of fact I had a pretty difficult time pulling apart some of the hoses off the
      joints due to rust.  
      
      So today I was test-running the engine, all set to fly it right after that. After
      about 2 minutes at full power, while standing along side the pilot's pit, there
      was a loud "POP" and I got a sudden shower of radiator water on my head.
      I immediately pulled the throttle back and turned off the mag. While my head was
      still dripping, I walked around to the engine and found the hose had popped
      off the newly-made fitting (the one in this photo).
      
      I have come to the conclusion that the reason was that while I was assembling all
      this I got the bright idea to use Aviation Gasket Sealer on the joints. I am
      pretty sure this stuff reduced the friction under the hose clamps and with a
      little pressure, the assembly let loose.
      
      I have deliberately NOT put this on the Piet Facebook sight, for fear of retribution
      from my wife.
      
      So in my efforts to be "more safe" I inadvertently made it "less safe". 
      
      Sometimes plain and simple is the best.
      
      Dan Helsper
      Loensloe Airfield
      Puryear, TN
      
      
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| Subject:  | Too smart.... by half. | 
      
      Dan, how much is it worth to you for me to NOT tell Denise about this 
      when I come to visit in a couple of weeks?
      
      
      Jack Phillips
      
      NX899JP
      
      Smith Mountain Lake, Virginia
      
      
      From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com 
      [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of 
      danhelsper@aol.com
      Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 8:04 PM
      Subject: Pietenpol-List: Too smart.... by half.
      
      
      Fellow Pietenpolers,
      
      
      While doing all my springtime preliminaries, maintenance items etc. to 
      get the Loensloe airplane ready for flight, I decided to re-make and 
      replace some of the steel tube components that connect and hold the 
      radiator hoses in place. The old ones were getting corroded on the 
      inside pretty bad along with the interface surfaces that come in contact 
      with the rubber radiator hoses. As a matter of fact I had a pretty 
      difficult time pulling apart some of the hoses off the joints due to 
      rust.  
      
      
      So today I was test-running the engine, all set to fly it right after 
      that. After about 2 minutes at full power, while standing along side the 
      pilot's pit, there was a loud "POP" and I got a sudden shower of 
      radiator water on my head. I immediately pulled the throttle back and 
      turned off the mag. While my head was still dripping, I walked around to 
      the engine and found the hose had popped off the newly-made fitting (the 
      one in this photo).
      
      
      I have come to the conclusion that the reason was that while I was 
      assembling all this I got the bright idea to use Aviation Gasket Sealer 
      on the joints. I am pretty sure this stuff reduced the friction under 
      the hose clamps and with a little pressure, the assembly let loose.
      
      
      I have deliberately NOT put this on the Piet Facebook sight, for fear of 
      retribution from my wife.
      
      
      So in my efforts to be "more safe" I inadvertently made it "less safe". 
      
      
      Sometimes plain and simple is the best.
      
      
      Dan Helsper
      
      Loensloe Airfield
      
      Puryear, TN
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Too smart.... by half. | 
      
      Dan,
      The Lord is on your side. Good thing it happened on the ground. 
      Have you run it since? And any answers to the "water wetter" issue. I'm at S
      unNFun now but hoping to put lots of time on mine when I return next week.
      Hope to see you soon,
      Jack
      
      Sent from my iPad
      
      > On Apr 23, 2015, at 8:03 PM, danhelsper@aol.com wrote:
      > 
      > Fellow Pietenpolers,
      >  
      > While doing all my springtime preliminaries, maintenance items etc. to get
       the Loensloe airplane ready for flight, I decided to re-make and replace so
      me of the steel tube components that connect and hold the radiator hoses in p
      lace. The old ones were getting corroded on the inside pretty bad along with
       the interface surfaces that come in contact with the rubber radiator hoses.
       As a matter of fact I had a pretty difficult time pulling apart some of the
       hoses off the joints due to rust.  
      >  
      > So today I was test-running the engine, all set to fly it right after that
      . After about 2 minutes at full power, while standing along side the pilot's
       pit, there was a loud "POP" and I got a sudden shower of radiator water on m
      y head. I immediately pulled the throttle back and turned off the mag. While
       my head was still dripping, I walked around to the engine and found the hos
      e had popped off the newly-made fitting (the one in this photo).
      >  
      > I have come to the conclusion that the reason was that while I was assembl
      ing all this I got the bright idea to use Aviation Gasket Sealer on the join
      ts. I am pretty sure this stuff reduced the friction under the hose clamps a
      nd with a little pressure, the assembly let loose.
      >  
      > I have deliberately NOT put this on the Piet Facebook sight, for fear of r
      etribution from my wife.
      >  
      > So in my efforts to be "more safe" I inadvertently made it "less safe".
      >  
      > Sometimes plain and simple is the best.
      >  
      > Dan Helsper
      > Loensloe Airfield
      > Puryear, TN
      > <Model A exhaust and water details 011.JPG>
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Ray Allen stick grip | 
      
      
      Chuck: let me take your points one at a time.  First, about getting the old stick
      grip off, I was lucky with mine, I guess.  Of course it wouldn't budge without
      persuasion, so I took some water pump pliers (Channelocks) and started at
      the bottom, gently twisting the grip on the stick to break it free.  I worked
      my way up the grip, breaking it free from whatever the combination of paint on
      the stick, heat, changing seasons, or whatever had stuck it in place.  It was
      finally loose enough for me to twist it off by hand.  I have it on the shelf
      if you want it ;o)
      
      Next, you asked if you need another Ray Allen grip in the front.  Well, the answer
      is "penzon".  If you do the flying and talking and all you're doing is taking
      someone for a ride and neither you nor they need to communicate except by
      hand signals, nothing more is needed.  In my case, I have a 2-place intercom that
      I can use in a couple of different ways.  I can just give the front-seater
      headphones and no mic, in which case I can tell them what's happening and what
      to expect, ask them to nod or wave their hand, give me a thumbs-up or -down,
      simple stuff.  They have no PTT switch, no mic.
      
      However, I can also give them a headset with a mic and my Sigtronics is voice activated
      (VOX) so no PTT is needed for me to talk to the front seater or vice-versa.
      They still don't need a stick grip with PTT.  My intercom has a toggle
      switch that lets me cut off the front seater's mic so they don't interrupt me
      listening to ATC, although they can still hear the radio chatter in their headphones.
      
      In the most complex case, I have dual stick grips, dual PTTs, and dual headsets-
      but I'll be darned if I know what happens if both pilot and passenger push their
      PTTs with the radio hot.  This setup might be used if the front seater were
      going to do the radio work while the back seater does the flying, perhaps for
      instruction, but it would be a rare case.  Long story short, the front seater
      shouldn't need a stick grip with a PTT if you have an intercom with VOX.
      
      >Does the front passenger ever talk to you?
      
      Only when she's not mad at me ;o)
      
      --------
      Oscar Zuniga
      Medford, OR
      Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
      A75 power
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=441208#441208
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Too smart.... by half. | 
      
      
      Dan;
      
      I decided to follow your lead and inspect/replace the water hose fittings on Scout
      as well.  For the life of me though, I can't seem to find where the coolant
      hoses connect to the Continental A75.  Do you happen to know?  ;o)
      
      In other news, I just had an email from a builder by the name of Robert Caldwell
      up near Longview, Texas who says he's nearing completion of his Air Camper,
      NX929RC.  He was asking if I still had the brass data plates for sale (I do).
      It's good to hear that another Piet will soon be taking flight, and it's also
      a reminder that only a fraction of the builders out there are on this list or
      maybe they are, but they are inactive or just lurk here.  A nice, healthy population
      of low 'n' slow experimenters continues to keep the tin-benders and fast
      glass in check.
      
      --------
      Oscar Zuniga
      Medford, OR
      Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
      A75 power
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=441209#441209
      
      
 
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