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1. 07:07 AM - Wood struts (oldbird)
2. 07:44 AM - Re: Re: How it's made Biplane (Steven Dortch)
3. 08:04 AM - Re: Wood struts (Steven Dortch)
4. 04:33 PM - Re: Wood struts (Gary Boothe)
5. 08:58 PM - Re: Wood struts (oldbird)
6. 09:27 PM - Re: Re: Wood struts (Gary Boothe)
7. 11:55 PM - Re: Wood struts (oldbird)
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I searched thru the previous posts and learned a lot. My question is: can anyone
help with wood strut cross sections and material?
The reason is twofold:
1. Streamlined seamless 4130 (or anything else) is not available in Tr. Shipping
from States is more expensive than the material itself (length issue).
2. I like working with wood an wood struts look really cool, at least to my eyes.
Mr. Gary Boothe's Corvair Piet has what I am after.
Does NX380MB have deeper fuselage by the way?
Semih (in Istanbul)
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| Subject: | Re: How it's made Biplane |
Semih, I believe WACO Aircraft trusts in the strength of the epoxy. The
epoxy itself is stronger than the wood.
This Aircraft is a classic design that dates from the 1930s. It is still
being produced. It is strong and fully aerobatic. I do not know of any
structural failures.
Home builders are well known for often building to a much higher standard
than production facilities.
Blue skies,
Steve D.
On May 1, 2015 11:48 PM, "oldbird" <semihoksay@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I am surprised to see the gaps in the ribs. I did not allow any gap wider
> than 0.1mm (0.004") gap on my ribs braces. They also fit centerline to
> centerline. If I missed, I used the stick for a shorter brace and made a
> new one. Am I too picky?
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> Semih (in Istanbul)
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Semih, I just realized I did not answer your question.
Build it safe!
How picky you are, is your decision. I had to decide that good enough has
to be good enough for me. If I hold out for perfect I will never get my
plane built. But that is because I do not have the skills you have
available.
Many planes that go to Oshkosh show super high levels of craftsmanship.
Pietenpols here vary from pretty rough but airworthy and good flying to
pristine workmanship that are prize-winning Aircraft.
Blue skies,
Steve D.
On May 2, 2015 9:09 AM, "oldbird" <semihoksay@gmail.com> wrote:
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> I searched thru the previous posts and learned a lot. My question is: can
> anyone help with wood strut cross sections and material?
>
> The reason is twofold:
> 1. Streamlined seamless 4130 (or anything else) is not available in Tr.
> Shipping from States is more expensive than the material itself (length
> issue).
> 2. I like working with wood an wood struts look really cool, at least to
> my eyes.
>
> Mr. Gary Boothe's Corvair Piet has what I am after.
> Does NX380MB have deeper fuselage by the way?
>
> Semih (in Istanbul)
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=441616#441616
>
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Semih,
You and your project are an inspiration!
The attached pictures will show the orientation of the laminations on my
struts. These are laminated hickory, but I don't think you would be narrowed
to just hickory. I used T-88 epoxy on these, but have also used Weldwood
Resorcinol on other strut sets.
Jim Markle has a different approach to his beautiful struts, and maybe he
can chime in.
Please feel free to ask questions anytime, either on this list, or in
personal email.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2015 7:07 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wood struts
I searched thru the previous posts and learned a lot. My question is: can
anyone help with wood strut cross sections and material?
The reason is twofold:
1. Streamlined seamless 4130 (or anything else) is not available in Tr.
Shipping from States is more expensive than the material itself (length
issue).
2. I like working with wood an wood struts look really cool, at least to my
eyes.
Mr. Gary Boothe's Corvair Piet has what I am after.
Does NX380MB have deeper fuselage by the way?
Semih (in Istanbul)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=441616#441616
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Gary
They are fantastic! I only saw them in larger photos and they have not done enough
justice. Looking closely...
Do you have any details of cross section, bolt sizes, hole spacings?
My other question was: is your fuselage deeper than original? You seem to sit lower.
Thank you very much for your kind and informative response.
Semih
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Samih,
Yes, I'm sorry, I forgot to answer your other question. I appear to sit
lower because I raised the turtledecks 1 1/2". I also have two stringers on
the bottom, which gives the appearance of a deeper fuselage.
The strut brackets are held on with three 3/16" bolts. I have no
recollection of the spacing...probably about 2". I'm not sure what you mean
by "cross section" details, but, when you rip the laminations, you are free
to do so in a way that you create vertical grain in each piece. I oriented
them so that the grain was vertical when gluing.
Hope that helps....
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of oldbird
Sent: Saturday, May 02, 2015 8:57 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wood struts
Gary
They are fantastic! I only saw them in larger photos and they have not done
enough justice. Looking closely...
Do you have any details of cross section, bolt sizes, hole spacings?
My other question was: is your fuselage deeper than original? You seem to
sit lower.
Thank you very much for your kind and informative response.
Semih
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=441633#441633
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Gary
raising the turtledecks is a great idea. I'll do the same. It looks cool too.
By cross section, I meant width and depth of the struts.
Thank you again,
Semih
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