Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Wed 05/06/15


Total Messages Posted: 11



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 02:59 AM - Re: Brodhead camping (Andre B. Charvet)
     2. 06:47 AM - Re: Rudder Bar Mods (Michael Perez)
     3. 07:27 AM - Re: Rudder Bar Mods (tools)
     4. 10:19 AM - pivot point, movement  (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-LME0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
     5. 10:35 AM - Re: Rudder Bar Mods (Bill Church)
     6. 12:14 PM - Re: Re: Brodhead camping (Ben Charvet)
     7. 12:31 PM - Re: Brodhead camping (AircamperN11MS)
     8. 04:14 PM - Re: Re: Brodhead camping (Gary Boothe)
     9. 06:14 PM - Re: Re: Brodhead camping (Yahoo! Account Service)
    10. 06:18 PM - Wider Fuselage (tonyp51qa)
    11. 08:46 PM - Re: Wider Fuselage (glenschweizer@yahoo.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:59:45 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Brodhead camping
    From: "Andre B. Charvet" <bencharvet@gmail.com>
    I've been to Oshkosh a few times, but not this year. Thanks for the tip. We hope to get there on Friday. Dick N <horzpool@goldengate.net> wrote: > >Ben >Its great to hear you are coming to Brodhead. Just go down to the second >parking lot, if you get there on Wed or later there will be campers parked >along the edge of the grass. The lot will fill up by Friday. Are you going >to Oshkosh also? It is about 140 mi. from Brodhead. >Later >Dick N. >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Ben Charvet" <bencharvet@gmail.com> >To: <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> >Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2015 7:30 AM >Subject: Pietenpol-List: Brodhead camping > > > > >I am planning my trek to Brodhead. We will be coming from Florida dragging >our popup camper, rather than the aircamper. This will be my first time >camping at Brodhead. I will have my wife and 8 year old grandson with me. >Are there any shower facilities on site? Any advice on where to set up? >Sent from my iPhone > >> On May 4, 2015, at 11:13 PM, wheelharp <wheelharp@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Oh wow...that is beautiful! Congratulations. >> >> -------- >> Jon Jones >> Ironton, MO >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=441724#441724 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 06:47:08 AM PST US
    From: Michael Perez <speedbrake@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Rudder Bar Mods
    Steve, I am NOW flying a Diamond DA-20C. I have made one flight in this AC, it is a very nice platform.


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    Time: 07:27:33 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rudder Bar Mods
    From: "tools" <n0kkj@yahoo.com>
    Hey mike, I agree with bill's comments as food for thought. I don't know how much tail wheel time you have. I basically learned on a Piet. I don't care what folks say, it isn't the easiest tail dragger around... As such, those early days are still fresh in my memory! I don't think gusty conditions cause the most forces on that rudder bar, but rather a newbie. My instructor asked if I was nervous... No. I think you are, relax your legs. I'm not tensed was my reply. Then the rudder is stuck because I can't move it! I then realized I was pushing with both legs pretty damn hard! Don't think it's the first time he'd saw that. Air forces aren't anything compared to that, you likely will be putting more force on that bar than you may realize. I really don't think the original design is lacking in any respect except I'd through bolt without welding given jack's incident. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=441801#441801


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    Time: 10:19:59 AM PST US
    From: "Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-LME0)[Vantage Partners, LLC]" <michael.d.cuy@nasa.gov>
    Subject: pivot point, movement
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    Time: 10:35:41 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rudder Bar Mods
    From: "Bill Church" <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
    Guess I could have been a little more clear. My reference to the gusty crosswinds wasn't intended to imply that the aerodynamic loads caused by the crosswinds would result in heavy rudder bar forces, but rather, that the rapidly changing conditions would require the pilot's feet to be dancing on the rudder bar, and pretty much any pilot likely would end up applying foot pressure to both sides simultaneously. Likewise, any time the pilot has used up all the rudder travel, but still doesn't seem to be enough, human nature will be to push harder (even though there isn't anywhere more to go.) Just like the way most people will apply even more pressure to a car's brake pedal, even when the tires are skidding, yet the car isn't stopping fast enough - the extra pressure on the pedal doesn't do any good at all (since the wheels are locked), but it's still hard to resist doing it. The short answer is that the rudder bar will end up being stressed quite a bit more than is actually necessary to operate the plane. Hard to avoid. Bill C. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=441808#441808


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    Time: 12:14:50 PM PST US
    From: Ben Charvet <bencharvet@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Brodhead camping
    The last time I came to Brodhead my wife picked the accomodations: http://www.cameorose.com/ Its pretty nice, but I'm looking forward to the Brodhead airport night life. Ben On 5/5/2015 11:51 PM, Ray Krause wrote: > > Gary Boothe, > > I'm taking note of all these comments: are you sure we want to "camp out"? I'm pretty old and you're getting older! > > Ray Krause > > Sent from my iPad > >> On May 5, 2015, at 8:00 AM, Barry Davis <bed@mindspring.com> wrote: >> >> >> If you set up in the woods, be SURE to bring nuclear powered mosquito >> spray.....or pay the price. >> This is advice from several years of past experience! >> Barry >> NX973BP >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com >> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of tools >> Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2015 9:11 AM >> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead camping >> >> >> I read pop up but was thinking tent... The best place over there is under a >> tree! >> >> I have seen a tear drop camper over in the woods which would be a great >> place if your grandson is along. >> >> There really isn't anywhere bad! >> >> The showers are very available during the day or later night. Mornings are >> hectic. >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=441736#441736 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > -- Ben Charvet, PharmD Staff Pharmacist Parrish Medical center


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    Time: 12:31:20 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Brodhead camping
    From: "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>
    Ben, I wouldn't stay there either. there are no planes, no hangars and no runway. Where are all the pilots? Although there looks like enough room for a tent or two. My wife would like that place too. I have experienced Brodhead in a tent. It's the only way. I wish I could be there with you all. Cheers, -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=441813#441813


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    Time: 04:14:19 PM PST US
    From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Brodhead camping
    Ray Krause, Are you reading this? Gary NX308MB Sent from my iPad > On May 6, 2015, at 12:31 PM, AircamperN11MS <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org> wrote: > > > Ben, > > I wouldn't stay there either. there are no planes, no hangars and no runway. Where are all the pilots? Although there looks like enough room for a tent or two. > > My wife would like that place too. > > I have experienced Brodhead in a tent. It's the only way. I wish I could be there with you all. > > Cheers, > > -------- > Scott Liefeld > Flying N11MS since March 1972 > Steel Tube > C-85-12 > Wire Wheels > Brodhead in 1996 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=441813#441813 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 06:14:37 PM PST US
    From: Yahoo! Account Service <skipgadd@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Brodhead camping
    Hi Ben, Bring your guitar, there has been known to be some pickin involved in the Brodhead night life. Skip -----Original Message----- >From: Ben Charvet <bencharvet@gmail.com> >Sent: May 6, 2015 3:14 PM >To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead camping > > >The last time I came to Brodhead my wife picked the accomodations: >http://www.cameorose.com/ >Its pretty nice, but I'm looking forward to the Brodhead airport night life. > >Ben >On 5/5/2015 11:51 PM, Ray Krause wrote: >> >> Gary Boothe, >> >> I'm taking note of all these comments: are you sure we want to "camp out"? I'm pretty old and you're getting older! >> >> Ray Krause >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On May 5, 2015, at 8:00 AM, Barry Davis <bed@mindspring.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> If you set up in the woods, be SURE to bring nuclear powered mosquito >>> spray.....or pay the price. >>> This is advice from several years of past experience! >>> Barry >>> NX973BP >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com >>> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of tools >>> Sent: Tuesday, May 05, 2015 9:11 AM >>> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >>> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Brodhead camping >>> >>> >>> I read pop up but was thinking tent... The best place over there is under a >>> tree! >>> >>> I have seen a tear drop camper over in the woods which would be a great >>> place if your grandson is along. >>> >>> There really isn't anywhere bad! >>> >>> The showers are very available during the day or later night. Mornings are >>> hectic. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=441736#441736 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >-- >Ben Charvet, PharmD >Staff Pharmacist >Parrish Medical center > >


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    Time: 06:18:38 PM PST US
    Subject: Wider Fuselage
    From: "tonyp51qa" <tonyp51qa@gmail.com>
    I need to make my fuselage wider by 2 inches. I need to do this at the pilot shoulders location in the seat area. I need to go from the plans dimension of 22 inches to a total of 24 inches. Has anyone made their fuselage wider? -------- Tony Crawford Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=441824#441824


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    Time: 08:46:40 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Wider Fuselage
    From: glenschweizer@yahoo.com
    Hi tony51 I'm building a biplane variant of the pietenpol called an Aerial. My fuse is 30" wide outside to outside. It will be powered by a 120hp WW Corvair conversion. I went with a wider fuse because my sister really wants to ride. Being a rounder than standard lady, she will fit better in first class,especially considering that my feet would be massaging her ass in a narrower front pit!(gimme a break. She's my sis, ok?) Anyway, the extra elbow room is really nice for the pilot as well. Everything else in the fuse(long model) is as per plans. Enjoy. Glen Sent from my iPhone > On May 6, 2015, at 6:18 PM, "tonyp51qa" <tonyp51qa@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I need to make my fuselage wider by 2 inches. I need to do this at the pilot shoulders location in the seat area. I need to go from the plans dimension of 22 inches to a total of 24 inches. Has anyone made their fuselage wider? > > -------- > Tony Crawford > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=441824#441824 > > > > > > > > > >




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