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Mon 05/25/15


Total Messages Posted: 6



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     1. 08:15 AM - Re: Question re posting progress (Bill Church)
     2. 08:55 AM - Re: private pilot (taildrags)
     3. 10:22 AM - Thanks to all our Verterans (Ray Krause)
     4. 11:43 AM - Re: Re: Question re posting progress (Semih Oksay)
     5. 12:35 PM - Re: Re: Question re posting progress (Boatright, Jeffrey)
     6. 02:04 PM - Re: Re: Question re posting progress (Gary Boothe)
 
 
 


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    Time: 08:15:27 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Question re posting progress
    From: "Bill Church" <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
    Of course, there is another option for saving weight on the empennage hinges; one that is even lighter than all of the above. One could simply make the hinges shown in the original plans. However, they are "fiddly" little things to make. It was for this reason that I opted to make my hinges the way I did (an idea I borrowed from Jim Markle, who borrowed the concept from the Bowers Fly Baby, I think.) Bill C. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442549#442549


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    Time: 08:55:49 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: private pilot
    From: "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    So Jerry, me and ol' Jack Cooper together in the J-3 weighed about the same as you flying it solo ;o) We were exactly the same height though! I will forever remember that cool and crisp November morning when Jack waved me over to the side of the grass after our second circuit of Tims Airpark north of Austin. After I stopped the plane, Jack unstrapped himself and got out. At that moment the Cub became the most incredible airplane in the world, because I was the captain at the stick, the sole manipulator of the controls, and I could see the instruments without having to lean to one side or the other to peek around Jack's shoulders. It was an incredible moment. At that same moment, that same day, about 20 miles due south of Tims, my wife and young son were sleeping peacefully in our 10x55 mobile home in a trailer park just across the highway from Bergstrom Air Force Base. On the field were rows of RF-4Cs and B-52s as the 12th Air Force trained tactical recon pilots in the Phantom in the Vietnam era out of Bergstrom. Some gave all so I could fly my solo that day while my young family slept, and I will not forget that. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC &quot;Scout&quot; A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442550#442550 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/ojz_3rd_131.jpg


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    Time: 10:22:54 AM PST US
    Subject: Thanks to all our Verterans
    From: "Ray Krause" <Raykrause@frontiernet.net>
    just a big thanks you to all of you who have served our country in the armed services. I did not have the chance, so I'm all the more thankful! THANK YOU, Ray Krause Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442551#442551


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    Time: 11:43:16 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Question re posting progress
    From: Semih Oksay <semihoksay@gmail.com>
    Thank you very much for the comments on the hinges. I also borrowed the idea. Since I have the sheet metal facility, they looked attractive. I just eyeballed the metal thickness. If it comes to weight and balance one day, =8BI can easily throw away the present ones and design something ligh ter. I am sure if I go into calculations, the hinges will come out with a safety factor of something like 20. I did not decide on my conti A-65 location yet. I read somewhere I have to make the nose (actually engine mount) 6" longer or I have to tilt the cabanes back, moving the wing rearwards. I did not like the idea because it shortens the tail moment. It may make things worse. I think I will go as close as possible to the original angle of the cabanes, vertical. Any ideas? Happy landings Semih On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 6:14 PM, Bill Church <billspiet@sympatico.ca> wrote : > billspiet@sympatico.ca> > > Of course, there is another option for saving weight on the empennage > hinges; one that is even lighter than all of the above. One could simply > make the hinges shown in the original plans. > However, they are "fiddly" little things to make. > It was for this reason that I opted to make my hinges the way I did (an > idea I borrowed from Jim Markle, who borrowed the concept from the Bowers > Fly Baby, I think.) > > Bill C. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442549#442549 > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > -- Semih Oksay


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    Time: 12:35:04 PM PST US
    From: "Boatright, Jeffrey" <jeffboatright@emory.edu>
    Subject: Re: Question re posting progress
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    Time: 02:04:09 PM PST US
    From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Question re posting progress
    I tilted mine back, too...4". It is far more effective than moving the engin e forward, and avoids the long-nosed look. Gary Boothe NX308MB Sent from my iPad > On May 25, 2015, at 12:34 PM, Boatright, Jeffrey <jeffboatright@emory.edu> wrote: > > I tilted my cabanes back about 3 inches. Very easy to do at your stage of b uilding. Greatly improved how the plane flies through mild turbulence. > > -- > Jeffrey H. Boatright, PhD, FARVO > Professor of Ophthalmology > Emory University School of Medicine > > From: Semih Oksay <semihoksay@gmail.com> > Date: Monday, May 25, 2015 at 2:42 PM > To: "pietenpol-list@matronics.com" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Question re posting progress > > Thank you very much for the comments on the hinges. I also borrowed the id ea. Since I have the sheet metal facility, they looked attractive. I just ey eballed the metal thickness. If it comes to weight and balance one day, =C3=A2 =82=AC=B9I can easily throw away the present ones and design someth ing lighter. I am sure if I go into calculations, the hinges will come out w ith a safety factor of something like 20. I did not decide on my conti A-65 l ocation yet. I read somewhere I have to make the nose (actually engine mount ) 6" longer or I have to tilt the cabanes back, moving the wing rearwards. I did not like the idea because it shortens the tail moment. It may make thin gs worse. I think I will go as close as possible to the original angle of th e cabanes, vertical. Any ideas? > > Happy landings > > Semih > >> On Mon, May 25, 2015 at 6:14 PM, Bill Church <billspiet@sympatico.ca> wro te: ca> >> >> Of course, there is another option for saving weight on the empennage hin ges; one that is even lighter than all of the above. One could simply make t he hinges shown in the original plans. >> However, they are "fiddly" little things to make. >> It was for this reason that I opted to make my hinges the way I did (an i dea I borrowed from Jim Markle, who borrowed the concept from the Bowers Fly Baby, I think.) >> >> Bill C. >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=442549#442549 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ========== >> br> enpol-List" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Piet enpol-List >> ========== >> FORUMS - >> _blank">http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> b Site - >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> ========== > > > > -- > Semih Oksay > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > > > > This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use of > the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged > information. If the reader of this message is not the intended > recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution > or copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictly > prohibited. > > If you have received this message in error, please contact > the sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of the > original message (including attachments). > ky=C2=B7=C3=A8=C5=BE=C3=9B"=C3=8D=C3=AD=C5=93=C2=A2Z+=C3=93M4=C3=93G=C3=9A q=C3=A7(=C2=BA=C2=B8=C5=BE=C2=AEw=C2=B0r=B9=C2=AB=B0=C3=C3=93 =C3=A3=C3=A2z=C3=97=C2=A7=C2=B0K=C5-=C3=8BD=84=A2=C2=A8 =C2=A5=16=C5-=C3=AE=84=A2K=1E=C2=B6=17=C5=92j=C3=9A=C3=A8=C5=BE',.+-=15 =C3=C2=AD=C2=BA=C2=B7=C2=AC5=C2=AB=C3=A2=C2=81=C2=ABh=C2=AE=C3=9A=1B=C2=AE =C5=92,z=C3=98^=84=A2=C2=A9=C3=B2.+-=C2=BA=C3=98=C2=A5=C5-=C3=98=C5=BE=C2 =B2=C3=8B=C5=93=C2=AB=0B=C5-=C3=8BT=C5=B8=C3=B4=C2=AEn=C3=87+=C5- =BAb=C2=A2p+r=18=C2=AFy'=C5=A1=C2=AD=C3=88C=C2=A3 =C3=A5=C2=A1=C2=A7{ =C2=AC=C2=81=C2=AE=C5=92,x(Z=C2=B4P=10>=1A-=C2=A2=C3=88Z=C2=AD=C3=C2=A7v k=C5=93-k=C5=93-j+y=C2=A8ky=C3=B8m=C2=B6=C5=B8=C3=C3=83=0C &j=C3=9A=C3=A8=C5=BE',r=B0=C25=C2=AB=C3=A2=C2=81=C2=ABh=C2=AC=C3=B8 =C5=BE=C2=B5=C3=A9=C3=A9=C2=A2R=C3=A2=C2=B2=C3=98m=C2=B6=C5=B8=C3=C3=83=0C &j=C3=9A=C3=A8=C5=BE',r=B0=C25=C2=AB=C3=A2=C2=81=C2=ABh=C2=AC=C3=B8 =C5=BE=C2=B5=C3=A9=C3=A9=C2=A2R=C3=A2=C2=B2=C3=9F=C3=9A0=04=C3=918=C3=92=02I a=01=14=C3=A4T1$=C5=A1=84=A2=C3=A8+y=C2=AB\=C2=A2{^=C5=BE=C3'=C2=A5=C2=B2 -=C2=AFj)ZnW=C2=AF=B0=C2=ABayg=BA=16=C5-=C3=AE=C5=A1=C3 =86=C2=A1=C2=AD=C3=A7=C3=A1=C2=B6=C3=9A=7F=C3=BD=C3=BA+=C2=BAk&j=C3=9A=C3=A8 =C5=BE',r=B0=C2=A1=C2=B6=C3=9A=7F=C3=BD=C3=BA+=C2=BAk&j=C3=9A=C3=A8=C5 =BE',r=B0=C2h=C2=B8=C2=AC=C2=B4*'=C2=B6=C2=B8=BA=C2=BA=C3=98=C2 =A8=C2=9Dg=BAJ+^N=16=C2=A7=9C*.~=C5-=C3=B2=C2=A2=C3=C3-zw =C2=AB=C2=A2=C3=AB,=C2=BA=C5=A1h=C2=AE=C3=93=1A=C2=B6=C3=90=C3=ABjY^.+-=01=C3 =99=C2=A2=C2=9D=C2=A8ky=C3=B8m=C2=B6=C5=B8=C3=C3=83=0C&j=C3=9A=C3=A8=C5=BE ',r=B0=C2r=B0=C3=AD=C2=AE&=C3=AE=C2=B6*'-=C3=9Bi=C3 =C3=BC0=C3=82f=C2=AD=C2=AE=B0=C3=A2r=C3=87(=BA=C3=B7(=C5=BE=C3=9A =C3=A2n=C3=ABb=C2=A2=7F=C3=9A=C3=BD=C2=C3=9F=C2=A2{=7F=C2=C2=B7=C2n =A1r=C3=BE=1Bf




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