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4. 07:26 AM - where are all the new guys (Joe Czaplicki)
5. 07:43 AM - Re: where are all the new guys (Marcus Zechini)
6. 09:58 AM - Re: Dick N (PatrickW)
7. 11:28 AM - Re: where are all the new guys (Ray Krause)
8. 12:03 PM - Re: where are all the new guys (David)
9. 12:25 PM - auto GPS test (Douwe Blumberg)
10. 12:29 PM - aileron resonse on rollout (Douwe Blumberg)
11. 12:32 PM - Re: Re: Dick N (Jack Textor)
12. 12:36 PM - Re: auto GPS test (Marcus Zechini)
13. 02:47 PM - Re: aileron resonse on rollout (AircamperN11MS)
14. 05:59 PM - Re: aileron resonse on rollout (Gary Boothe)
15. 11:04 PM - Re: auto GPS test (Semih Oksay)
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I'll put money in the jar too, though I will miss the brat fest
Douwe
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Jack,
Excellent idea. Maybe something in Dick's name to the Brodhead chapter. Dick (along
with Dave Aldrich) was the main guy behind the Piet fuse we made at Sun n
Fun and donated to them to auction off.
Skip
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>From: Jack <jack@textors.com>
>Sent: Jun 14, 2015 7:05 AM
>To: "pietenpol-list@matronics.com" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Dick N
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>Douwe, agreed he will be missed. I had a thought and would appreciate any input.
Many of you have attended my Brat lunch at Brodhead. I'm thinking this year
we could have a "donation jar" for those that would like to contribute something
to recognize Dick or assistance for his family in some way. Your thoughts?
>
>Sent from my iPad
>Jack Textor
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>> On Jun 13, 2015, at 7:48 PM, "Douwe Blumberg" <douwe@douwestudios.com> wrote:
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>> Hi all,
>>
>> Ive just returned from a trip to find the sad news about Dick. He was a great
guy and I will miss him. After my planes off-airport incident, it was Dick
who diverted on his way to Sun N Fun to get my wings and bring them along so
they could be rebuild down there at the wood shop. Turned out they needed to
be completely torn down and rebuilt due to some weird glue issues, but he couldnt
have been more gracious and selfless in his instant offer to help (all the
guys were awesome).
>>
>> He will be missed!
>>
>> Douwe
>>
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Steve,
There is no telling how many Piet's Dick influenced, except that it is allot. I
know he built at least 2 Piet's. The radial and the blue and white A65 Piet Tools
bought. He was working on a Sky Scout.
Now Dick would say that most of the radial Piet was built by the Sun n Fun wood
shop crew, like a Tom Sawyer/Huck Finn kind of thing. But I can tell you getting
all the materials from Minn. to Lakeland FL, watching over the build and taking
the completed fuse, wing and tail feathers back to Minn. is no small amount
of work. I guess that would count as both build and influence.
Skip
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>From: Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com>
>Sent: Jun 14, 2015 11:35 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Dick N
>
>I only know Dick through this list, but he answered several of my questions
>graciously. I greatly covet his radial Piet. It just looks so right!
>
>How many Piets did he build/ influence?
>
>Steve "wish I had met him" D
>On Jun 13, 2015 7:48 PM, "Douwe Blumberg" <douwe@douwestudios.com> wrote:
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>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>> Ive just returned from a trip to find the sad news about Dick. He was a
>> great guy and I will miss him. After my planes off-airport incident, it
>> was Dick who diverted on his way to Sun N Fun to get my wings and bring
>> them along so they could be rebuild down there at the wood shop. Turned
>> out they needed to be completely torn down and rebuilt due to some weird
>> glue issues, but he couldnt have been more gracious and selfless in his
>> instant offer to help (all the guys were awesome).
>>
>>
>>
>> He will be missed!
>>
>> Douwe
>>
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| Subject: | where are all the new guys |
If there are any new builders in the NE Illinois or SE Wisconsin area and are just
getting started. I have a few items available that might give them a kick
start.
a rib jig, rib top strip forming jig, A65 motor mount jig, some motor mount pieces,
landing gear hinge bushings, 4x4 sheet of 1/16 ply for rib gussets, couple
sample ribs. these are free to anyone willing to pick them up in Zion, IL.
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| Subject: | Re: where are all the new guys |
I will be at Brodhead... In my Grega...maybe I can find a way to get stuff
otherwise...currently plan on Model A, though
On Jun 15, 2015 10:28 AM, "Joe Czaplicki" <fishin3@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
> >
>
> If there are any new builders in the NE Illinois or SE Wisconsin area and
> are just getting started. I have a few items available that might give them
> a kick start.
> a rib jig, rib top strip forming jig, A65 motor mount jig, some motor
> mount pieces, landing gear hinge bushings, 4x4 sheet of 1/16 ply for rib
> gussets, couple sample ribs. these are free to anyone willing to pick them
> up in Zion, IL.
>
>
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Wife & I were friends Dick and Joanie. Sometimes we would be planning on going
to some event, and he'd say "Bring Mary, because then Joanie will go too and
it'll be fun". Last year we laughed as our wifes were wading through mud at Blakesburg
after heavy rains, and we told them to be sure to check between their
toes for leeches.
A couple years ago at the MN State Fair, the 4 of us were walking along and I found
a $20 bill on the ground. I'll be putting that $20 in the Jar at Brodhead...
Dick helped a lot with a Pietenpol that a group of us here in MN are building together.
We made the first rib in the basement of Dick's house during a Christmas
Party, and we all signed our names on it.
Dick was building a Sky Scout. I hadn't seen it for a while, so I don't know how
far along it got, but at the time it was further along than the Piet that our
group was building. He had evaluated putting a V-twin engine on it, as well
as looking into using a "Wisconsin V-4", but had eventually decided on a Corvair.
He planned on putting the Sky Scout on floats and painting it in Harley
Davidson colors. I told him that since it's a Sky Scout he really ought to finish
it like an Indian motorcycle, with big fenders and tassles hanging everywhere,
but he laughed and said he was more of a Harley guy.
Just a couple weeks ago Dick was handing me sandbags as we helped a fellow builder
skin his Glasair project. That was the last time I saw him.
Sure am going to miss him...
Patrick Hoyt
N63PZ
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| Subject: | Re: where are all the new guys |
You are a very nice person!
Ray Krause, unfortunately in CA!
Sent from my iPad
> On Jun 15, 2015, at 7:22 AM, Joe Czaplicki <fishin3@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>
>
> If there are any new builders in the NE Illinois or SE Wisconsin area and are
just getting started. I have a few items available that might give them a kick
start.
> a rib jig, rib top strip forming jig, A65 motor mount jig, some motor mount pieces,
landing gear hinge bushings, 4x4 sheet of 1/16 ply for rib gussets, couple
sample ribs. these are free to anyone willing to pick them up in Zion, IL.
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: where are all the new guys |
And Oscar too for his very generous offer previously.
I wish I had the time :( One day.....
On 06/15/2015 11:27 AM, Ray Krause wrote:
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> You are a very nice person!
>
> Ray Krause, unfortunately in CA!
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Jun 15, 2015, at 7:22 AM, Joe Czaplicki <fishin3@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> If there are any new builders in the NE Illinois or SE Wisconsin area and are
just getting started. I have a few items available that might give them a kick
start.
>> a rib jig, rib top strip forming jig, A65 motor mount jig, some motor mount
pieces, landing gear hinge bushings, 4x4 sheet of 1/16 ply for rib gussets, couple
sample ribs. these are free to anyone willing to pick them up in Zion, IL.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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Hey all,
My early father's day present was a Garmin NUVI auto gps. Since my second
"aviation grade" Garmin puked right before Brodhead last year, I flew with
my iphone as my primary navigation backed up by charts on my knee pad in
case it quit. I had used the iphone the previous year to back up my garmin
so it worked great for two years. Always keep a paper backup though.
Anyways, I got to wondering if this auto gps would work in the plane and
serve as a last ditch gps backup for the iphone. Went flying and sure
enough, it works fine. There's not much detail or aviation related info,
but many airports are there and in "offroad" mode, it'll show a direct path.
Seems like a fine backup gps.
Keep the charts though!
Douwe
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| Subject: | aileron resonse on rollout |
Have read quite a few articles about aileron usage during rollout/groundloop
speeds. Did some experimenting the other day on asphalt with no wind.
Turns out that once the speed decreases and ailerons stop working as
designed, they become flaps.
So I'd taxi down the runway and if I held the stick all the way left, the
plane went right and visa versa. As the plane swerved right, I could steer
it back with right aileron.
So at lower speeds, using aileron as if flying isn't helping things, though
I don't really think I could train my muscle-memory to reverse everything
while my adrenalin is pumping as I try to stop a ground loop.
Douwe
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Pat and others thanks for sharing your stories about Dick. I always enjoyed
visiting with him wherever we were, Brodhead, Oshkosh and Blakesburg. He
will be missed. Attached is a shot from 2011 Brat Lunch...
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of PatrickW
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 11:58 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Dick N
Wife & I were friends Dick and Joanie. Sometimes we would be planning on
going to some event, and he'd say "Bring Mary, because then Joanie will go
too and it'll be fun". Last year we laughed as our wifes were wading
through mud at Blakesburg after heavy rains, and we told them to be sure to
check between their toes for leeches.
A couple years ago at the MN State Fair, the 4 of us were walking along and
I found a $20 bill on the ground. I'll be putting that $20 in the Jar at
Brodhead...
Dick helped a lot with a Pietenpol that a group of us here in MN are
building together. We made the first rib in the basement of Dick's house
during a Christmas Party, and we all signed our names on it.
Dick was building a Sky Scout. I hadn't seen it for a while, so I don't
know how far along it got, but at the time it was further along than the
Piet that our group was building. He had evaluated putting a V-twin engine
on it, as well as looking into using a "Wisconsin V-4", but had eventually
decided on a Corvair. He planned on putting the Sky Scout on floats and
painting it in Harley Davidson colors. I told him that since it's a Sky
Scout he really ought to finish it like an Indian motorcycle, with big
fenders and tassles hanging everywhere, but he laughed and said he was more
of a Harley guy.
Just a couple weeks ago Dick was handing me sandbags as we helped a fellow
builder skin his Glasair project. That was the last time I saw him.
Sure am going to miss him...
Patrick Hoyt
N63PZ
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| Subject: | Re: auto GPS test |
I have an old Nuvi...how long does battery last?
When I bought the Grega, it came with 2 Garmin 196s. I downloaded newest
s/w, for one, but don't think I'll pay for database update. Anyone want the
second? Will bring to Brodhead.
On Jun 15, 2015 3:27 PM, "Douwe Blumberg" <douwe@douwestudios.com> wrote:
> Hey all,
>
>
> My early father=99s day present was a Garmin NUVI auto gps. Since
my second
> =9Caviation grade=9D Garmin puked right before Brodhead last
year, I flew with
> my iphone as my primary navigation backed up by charts on my knee pad in
> case it quit. I had used the iphone the previous year to back up my garm
in
> so it worked great for two years. Always keep a paper backup though.
>
>
> Anyways, I got to wondering if this auto gps would work in the plane and
> serve as a last ditch gps backup for the iphone. Went flying and sure
> enough, it works fine. There=99s not much detail or aviation relat
ed info,
> but many airports are there and in =9Coffroad=9D mode, it
=99ll show a direct
> path. Seems like a fine backup gps.
>
>
> Keep the charts though!
>
>
> Douwe
>
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| Subject: | Re: aileron resonse on rollout |
Douwe,
If you can master this, then I say go ahead and master the ground loop reversal
process.
This is fascinating.
http://viewpure.com/MFzDaBzBlL0?ref=bkmk
Oh, I want to build one of these and give it a whirl.
Cheers,
--------
Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | aileron resonse on rollout |
Rudder counteracts adverse yaw.that's why the Piet has such a big rudder! I
stalled a downwind wing on landing by throwing in upwind aileron.at a slow
speed. That wing comes down hard when it quits flying. IMHO, practicing with
ailerons on landing is bad idea that will lead to nasty results. Better to
practice with dancing on the rudder.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe
Blumberg
Sent: Monday, June 15, 2015 12:30 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: aileron resonse on rollout
Have read quite a few articles about aileron usage during rollout/groundloop
speeds. Did some experimenting the other day on asphalt with no wind.
Turns out that once the speed decreases and ailerons stop working as
designed, they become flaps.
So I'd taxi down the runway and if I held the stick all the way left, the
plane went right and visa versa. As the plane swerved right, I could steer
it back with right aileron.
So at lower speeds, using aileron as if flying isn't helping things, though
I don't really think I could train my muscle-memory to reverse everything
while my adrenalin is pumping as I try to stop a ground loop.
Douwe
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| Subject: | Re: auto GPS test |
Hi Douwe
which software did you use on the iphone? Maps only?
Semih=8B
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 10:35 PM, Marcus Zechini <marcus.zechini@gmail.com>
wrote:
> I have an old Nuvi...how long does battery last?
> When I bought the Grega, it came with 2 Garmin 196s. I downloaded newest
> s/w, for one, but don't think I'll pay for database update. Anyone want t
he
> second? Will bring to Brodhead.
> On Jun 15, 2015 3:27 PM, "Douwe Blumberg" <douwe@douwestudios.com> wrote:
>
>> Hey all,
>>
>>
>>
>> My early father=99s day present was a Garmin NUVI auto gps. Since
my
>> second =9Caviation grade=9D Garmin puked right before Brodhe
ad last year, I
>> flew with my iphone as my primary navigation backed up by charts on my k
nee
>> pad in case it quit. I had used the iphone the previous year to back up
my
>> garmin so it worked great for two years. Always keep a paper backup tho
ugh.
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyways, I got to wondering if this auto gps would work in the plane and
>> serve as a last ditch gps backup for the iphone. Went flying and sure
>> enough, it works fine. There=99s not much detail or aviation rela
ted info,
>> but many airports are there and in =9Coffroad=9D mode, it
=99ll show a direct
>> path. Seems like a fine backup gps.
>>
>>
>>
>> Keep the charts though!
>>
>>
>>
>> Douwe
>>
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