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1. 04:31 AM - Re: New BPA Issue and need a few Beta Testers (Pietflyer1977)
2. 04:35 AM - Re: Hydraulic Brake Calipers (Jack)
3. 06:10 AM - Re: Hydraulic Brake Calipers (AircamperN11MS)
4. 06:13 AM - Re: Re: New BPA Issue and need a few Beta Testers (John Hofmann)
5. 08:26 AM - Re: Re: New BPA Issue and need a few Beta Testers (Pietn38b@aol.com)
6. 10:13 AM - email test (Douwe Blumberg)
7. 10:13 AM - test... (Douwe Blumberg)
8. 10:13 AM - props for sale (Douwe Blumberg)
9. 10:13 AM - test, let me know if this comes through (Douwe Blumberg)
10. 10:13 AM - cozy girls?? (Douwe Blumberg)
11. 10:13 AM - facebook forum (Douwe Blumberg)
12. 10:13 AM - Antique Aircraft Assocation fly-in (Douwe Blumberg)
13. 10:19 AM - Re: email test (Keith Hodge)
14. 10:19 AM - Re: email test (Bkemike)
15. 10:20 AM - Re: test, let me know if this comes through (Steven Dortch)
16. 10:23 AM - Re: test... (Steven Dortch)
17. 10:24 AM - Re: test, let me know if this comes through ()
18. 10:28 AM - Re: email test (Marcus Zechini)
19. 10:31 AM - Re: test, let me know if this comes through (Boatright, Jeffrey)
20. 10:36 AM - Re: facebook forum (Boatright, Jeffrey)
21. 10:58 AM - Re: test, let me know if this comes through (Barry Davis)
22. 11:01 AM - Re: New BPA Issue and need a few Beta Testers (jarheadpilot82)
23. 11:14 AM - CG Aircraft Products is still out there Douwe (Cuy, Michael D. (GRC-LME0)[Vantage Partners, LLC])
24. 11:38 AM - Re: New BPA Issue and need a few Beta Testers (Jeff Boatright)
25. 01:26 PM - Re: email test (Jack Philips)
26. 01:33 PM - List activity (Bill Church)
27. 01:56 PM - Re: Re: New BPA Issue and need a few Beta Testers (Pietn38b@aol.com)
28. 02:17 PM - Re: Re: New BPA Issue and need a few Beta Testers (Pietn38b@aol.com)
29. 02:44 PM - Re: Re: New BPA Issue and need a few Beta Testers (Ray Krause)
30. 03:40 PM - ADS B in a Pietenpol? (Andre B. Charvet)
31. 04:59 PM - Re: test, let me know if this comes through (THOMAS.233327)
32. 05:04 PM - Re: email test (cessna7226g@aol.com)
33. 05:09 PM - Re: props for sale (cessna7226g@aol.com)
34. 05:16 PM - Re: Re: New BPA Issue and need a few Beta Testers (cessna7226g@aol.com)
35. 05:53 PM - Re: props for sale (Tim White)
36. 06:06 PM - Re: Re: New BPA Issue and need a few Beta Testers (Tony Crawford)
37. 06:32 PM - Re: props for sale ()
38. 07:08 PM - Re: facebook forum (Ray Krause)
39. 08:44 PM - Re: facebook forum (Steven Dortch)
40. 11:10 PM - Re: Hydraulic Brake Calipers (tools)
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Subject: | Re: New BPA Issue and need a few Beta Testers |
Just curious....I never got a newsletter the week of June 21st nor did I get another
before Brodhead? I am the only one? Do I need to see if my mailman likes
Pietenpols? [Rolling Eyes]
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445332#445332
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Subject: | Re: Hydraulic Brake Calipers |
Tom I would be interested in the responses too...
Sent from my iPad
Jack Textor
> On Jul 28, 2015, at 5:17 PM, "tkreiner" <tkreiner@gmail.com> wrote:
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> Last week at OSH, I stopped at the Grove Brake booth, and took a look at
> their line up. Nice stuff, but maybe overkill for a Piet.
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> In the past, I've seen several Piets with Go-Kart calipers, but before I
> purchase anything, I'd like to query anyone having specific experience
> with them, preferably on a flying plane.
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> Are they:
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> Easy to install?
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> Are they durable, or do they have problems?
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> Provide correct braking force? (This is related to brake holding torque)
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> Reasonable Cost?
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> Tell all of us your experience with your Disc Brakes, Calipers, etc., and
> PLEASE don't hold back a thing.
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> Thanks!
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> Tom Kreiner
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Subject: | Re: Hydraulic Brake Calipers |
Brakes??????
No experience with them on my plane. Sorry about that. Been just fine without
them for 43 years. Just need to stay way ahead of the plane when performing
ground maneuvers. Much like in a boat.
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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Subject: | Re: New BPA Issue and need a few Beta Testers |
I have not gotten mine yet either and live only an hour away. I will check with
the printer.
Best,
-john-
John Hofmann
Vice-President, IT and Production
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
> On Jul 29, 2015, at 6:31 AM, Pietflyer1977 <rob@stoinoff.com> wrote:
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> Just curious....I never got a newsletter the week of June 21st nor did I get
another before Brodhead? I am the only one? Do I need to see if my mailman likes
Pietenpols? [Rolling Eyes]
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Subject: | Re: New BPA Issue and need a few Beta Testers |
You are not alone. I have not received anything since the third issue of
2014 and my subscription is good until 10/2016. I keep being told its on
its way but I havent seen anything yet.
Jim Ballew
Pietenpol N38B
In a message dated 7/29/2015 6:48:33 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
rob@stoinoff.com writes:
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Pietflyer1977" <rob@stoinoff.com>
Just curious....I never got a newsletter the week of June 21st nor did I
get another before Brodhead? I am the only one? Do I need to see if my
mailman likes Pietenpols? [Rolling Eyes]
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445332#445332
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Anybody getting this?
Douwe
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Hello all,
I've been having email problems, if this comes through would someone please
email me personally and let me know?
Thanks,
Douwe
douwe@douwestudios.com
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Hey all,
I have two props hanging on my wall which I have decided to sell since I
have no use for them.
One is a brand new, custom carved prop for an 0200 piet made by Culver
props/valley engineering.
The other is a completely unused Ole Fahlin brass-edged prop. I researched
it and it was made in the fifties and has been stored inside ever since. It
is in immaculate condition with absolutely no delamination or any issues, so
I am pretty confident it is useable though I'd certainly ck it out first.
It is a thing of beauty. Can't remember the pitch and size, but I think
it's for an A65 . I can ck if anyone's interested
Douwe
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Subject: | test, let me know if this comes through |
Would someone let me know if this message shows up?
I posted a few yesterday but don't see them on the list this morning, wonder
if something's wrong.
Thanks
Douwe
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Are you guys still out there?
I'm looking for a Tracy Crook, RWS redrive and know that a lot of Cozy
people bought them. He no longer makes 'em so I'm beating the bushes for
one laying unused with a project.
Douwe
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Hey all,
It sadly is seeming as if this list is dying. I keep hearing that lots of
people have moved over to the facebook piet page. Never having even seen a
facebook page, would someone tell me how to find it and get signed up? Kind
of miss keeping up with everybody.
Douwe
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Subject: | Antique Aircraft Assocation fly-in |
Hey,
Anybody interested in flying wingman with me to ck out the Blakesburg, Iowa
flyin? Since we missed Brodhead, if the WX is nice thought we'd ck it out.
Marci is going to drive the car with camping gear and I'll fly.
Douwe
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Yes, certainly in the UK!
Keith
On 29/07/2015 13:37, Douwe Blumberg wrote:
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> Douwe
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> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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I'm getting your emails just fine, Douwe.
I would like to know more about the O-200 prop.
Mike Hardaway
Sent from a "smart" phone.
Emphasis on the quotes.
> On Jul 29, 2015, at 05:37, Douwe Blumberg <douwe@douwestudios.com> wrote:
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Subject: | Re: test, let me know if this comes through |
Got it in Oklahoma/
Steve D
On Mon, Jul 27, 2015 at 7:02 AM, Douwe Blumberg <douwe@douwestudios.com>
wrote:
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> I posted a few yesterday but don=99t see them on the list this morn
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Douwe, I just got about 6 emails from you in the last few minutes. They all
have dates running back to the 27th. There has been traffic on the Piet
list.
Blue Skies,
Steve D
On Tue, Jul 28, 2015 at 7:25 AM, Douwe Blumberg <douwe@douwestudios.com>
wrote:
> Hello all,
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> I=99ve been having email problems, if this comes through would some
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> Thanks,
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> Douwe
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On Jul 29, 2015 1:16 PM, "Douwe Blumberg" <douwe@douwestudios.com> wrote:
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Subject: | test, let me know if this comes through |
Came through written in invisible ink! So I guess the answer
is. it came through, but was blank.
Barry
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
Boatright, Jeffrey
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 1:31 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: test, let me know if this comes through
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Subject: | Re: New BPA Issue and need a few Beta Testers |
I have not received mine either.
--------
Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
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Subject: | CG Aircraft Products is still out there Douwe |
Douwe---check out http://www.cozygirrrl.com/aircraftparts.htm
I just referred a friend of mine to Chrissi & Randi for his 0-200 Pietenpo
l motor mount.
CGParts@aol.com<mailto:CGParts@aol.com>
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Subject: | Re: New BPA Issue and need a few Beta Testers |
This is not a complaint (I used to edit and publish a newsletter for a large EAA
Chapter, so I know how difficult it is!), just more data:
I haven't gotten my newsletter, either.
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Nope
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe
Blumberg
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 8:38 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: email test
Anybody getting this?
Douwe
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Wow,
Lots of activity on the List today.
:)
BC
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Subject: | Re: New BPA Issue and need a few Beta Testers |
In a message dated 7/29/2015 1:39:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
jeffboatright@emory.edu writes:
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jeff Boatright"
<jeffboatright@emory.edu>
This is not a complaint (I used to edit and publish a newsletter for a
large EAA Chapter, so I know how difficult it is!), just more data:
I haven't gotten my newsletter, either.
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Subject: | Re: New BPA Issue and need a few Beta Testers |
I have not received anything since third issue 2014. Jim Ballew
In a message dated 7/29/2015 1:39:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
jeffboatright@emory.edu writes:
--> Pietenpol-List message posted by: "Jeff Boatright"
<jeffboatright@emory.edu>
This is not a complaint (I used to edit and publish a newsletter for a
large EAA Chapter, so I know how difficult it is!), just more data:
I haven't gotten my newsletter, either.
Read this topic online here:
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Subject: | Re: New BPA Issue and need a few Beta Testers |
I have not received one, either. Did my subscription run out. Did not see any at
Brodhead.
Ray Krause
Sent from my iPad
> On Jul 29, 2015, at 4:31 AM, Pietflyer1977 <rob@stoinoff.com> wrote:
>
>
> Just curious....I never got a newsletter the week of June 21st nor did I get
another before Brodhead? I am the only one? Do I need to see if my mailman likes
Pietenpols? [Rolling Eyes]
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445332#445332
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Subject: | ADS B in a Pietenpol? |
I have a non -electric Pietenpol with an A-65. Unfortunately my airport is inside
a Mode C area. While the rules exempted me from having a transponder, there
doesn't seem to be such an exception to the upcoming ADS-B requirements. Cubs,
Champs, etc will have the same problem. How are the rest of you planning to
deal with this?
Ben Charvet
Hangared ar X21
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Subject: | Re: test, let me know if this comes through |
Dowe
It came through just fine for me, and I'm just a lurker!
Tom Hale
Building a Sonex/AeroVee
----- Original Message -----
From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douwe@douwestudios.com>
Sent: Monday, July 27, 2015 5:02:58 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: test, let me know if this comes through
Would someone let me know if this message shows up?
I posted a few yesterday but don=99t see them on the list this mornin
g, wonder if something=99s wrong.
Thanks
Douwe
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Yes
Joe R
-----Original Message-----
From: Jack Philips <jack@bedfordlandings.com>
Sent: Wed, Jul 29, 2015 4:26 pm
Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: email test
Nope
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Douwe Blumberg
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2015 8:38 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: email test
Anybody getting this?
Douwe
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
http://forums.matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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Subject: | Re: props for sale |
Where are you located? How much do you want for the props?
Joe R
-----Original Message-----
From: Douwe Blumberg <douwe@douwestudios.com>
Sent: Wed, Jul 29, 2015 1:13 pm
Subject: Pietenpol-List: props for sale
Hey all,
I have two props hanging on my wall which I have decided to sell since I ha
ve no use for them.
One is a brand new, custom carved prop for an 0200 piet made by Culver prop
s/valley engineering.
The other is a completely unused Ole Fahlin brass-edged prop. I researched
it and it was made in the fifties and has been stored inside ever since.
It is in immaculate condition with absolutely no delamination or any issues
, so I am pretty confident it is useable though I=99d certainly ck it
out first. It is a thing of beauty. Can=99t remember the pitch and
size, but I think it=99s for an A65 . I can ck if anyone=99s
interested
Douwe
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Subject: | Re: New BPA Issue and need a few Beta Testers |
Thank you for checking
Joe R
-----Original Message-----
From: John Hofmann <jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com>
Sent: Wed, Jul 29, 2015 9:13 am
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: New BPA Issue and need a few Beta Testers
<jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com>
I have not gotten mine yet either and live only
an hour away. I will check with the printer.
Best,
-john-
John
Hofmann
Vice-President, IT and Production
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American
Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email:
jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
> On Jul 29, 2015, at 6:31 AM, Pietflyer1977
<rob@stoinoff.com> wrote:
>
"Pietflyer1977" <rob@stoinoff.com>
>
> Just curious....I never got a
newsletter the week of June 21st nor did I get another before Brodhead? I am the
only one? Do I need to see if my mailman likes Pietenpols? [Rolling Eyes]
>
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>
> Read this topic online here:
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445332#445332
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- The Pietenpol-List Email Forum -
Navigator to browse
Un/Subscription,
Photoshare, and much much more:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List
- MATRONICS WEB FORUMS -
Forums!
http://forums.matronics.com
- List Contribution Web Site -
-Matt Dralle, List Admin.
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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Subject: | Re: props for sale |
I have a C-85, what are you asking? What are the lengths and pitch?
On 7/27/2015 10:35 AM, Douwe Blumberg wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
> I have two props hanging on my wall which I have decided to sell since
> I have no use for them.
>
> One is a brand new, custom carved prop for an 0200 piet made by Culver
> props/valley engineering.
>
> The other is a completely unused Ole Fahlin brass-edged prop. I
> researched it and it was made in the fifties and has been stored
> inside ever since. It is in immaculate condition with absolutely no
> delamination or any issues, so I am pretty confident it is useable
> though Id certainly ck it out first. It is a thing of beauty. Cant
> remember the pitch and size, but I think its for an A65 . I can ck
> if anyones interested
>
> Douwe
>
> http://www.matronics.com/contribution
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Subject: | Re: New BPA Issue and need a few Beta Testers |
Hi, I have not seen anything either! I did get one back in Feb 2015. I was
wondering if I would see anything at brodhead. Didn't!!!
Tony
On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 6:31 AM, Pietflyer1977 <rob@stoinoff.com> wrote:
>
> Just curious....I never got a newsletter the week of June 21st nor did I
> get another before Brodhead? I am the only one? Do I need to see if my
> mailman likes Pietenpols? [Rolling Eyes]
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445332#445332
>
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Subject: | Re: props for sale |
What is the length and pitch of the O-200 Prop? How much for it and shipping to
Virginia?
Rodney Hall
do not archive
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Subject: | Re: facebook forum |
What is the Facebook list?never heard of it.
Ray Krause
Sent from my iPad
> On Jul 26, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Douwe Blumberg <douwe@douwestudios.com> wrot
e:
>
> Hey all,
>
> It sadly is seeming as if this list is dying. I keep hearing that lots of
people have moved over to the facebook piet page. Never having even seen a
facebook page, would someone tell me how to find it and get signed up? Kin
d of miss keeping up with everybody.
>
> Douwe
>
>
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Subject: | Re: facebook forum |
https://www.facebook.com/groups/154625746626/
I like both
Steve D
On Wed, Jul 29, 2015 at 9:08 PM, Ray Krause <raykrause@frontiernet.net>
wrote:
> What is the Facebook list?never heard of it.
>
> Ray Krause
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jul 26, 2015, at 12:35 PM, Douwe Blumberg <douwe@douwestudios.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hey all,
>
>
> It sadly is seeming as if this list is dying. I keep hearing that lots of
> people have moved over to the facebook piet page. Never having even seen a
> facebook page, would someone tell me how to find it and get signed up?
> Kind of miss keeping up with everybody.
>
>
> Douwe
>
>
> *
>
>
> *
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>
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Blue Skies,
Steve D
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Subject: | Re: Hydraulic Brake Calipers |
Matco go kart brakes on the Harley rotors. Work great, last long time!
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