---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Sat 08/15/15: 17 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:33 AM - Re: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton (Andre B. Charvet) 2. 06:02 AM - Re: Mong Sport Biplane for sale on ebay (MyrickPiet) 3. 06:53 AM - So Cal (Douwe Blumberg) 4. 06:57 AM - rib stitching (Douwe Blumberg) 5. 07:31 AM - Re: rib stitching (Steven Dortch) 6. 08:33 AM - Re: BPA Newsletter PDF (pjb) 7. 09:12 AM - BPA Newsletter (Steven Dortch) 8. 09:56 AM - Re: BPA Newsletter (Gary Boothe) 9. 10:06 AM - Re: welcome Semih (oldbird) 10. 10:09 AM - Re: BPA Newsletter (Gary Boothe) 11. 10:43 AM - Re: BPA Newsletter (Gerrit-Jan Kaal) 12. 01:04 PM - Re: BPA Newsletter (Steven Dortch) 13. 05:21 PM - Re: Heritage flyin Dayton (taildrags) 14. 06:41 PM - Re: BPA Newsletter (John Hofmann) 15. 07:52 PM - Re: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton (Ray Krause) 16. 08:00 PM - Re: rib stitching (Ray Krause) 17. 08:49 PM - Re: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton (Ray Krause) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:33:54 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton From: "Andre B. Charvet" We wouldn't want to deprive you of the fun. It really is enjoyable Ben Ray Krause wrote: > >Got any extra time? Stitching is fun! > >Ray > >Sent from my iPad > >> On Aug 14, 2015, at 7:55 PM, Gary Boothe wrote: >> >> >> "Stitching is fun...stitching is fun....stitching is fun..." >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Aug 14, 2015, at 8:44 PM, Ray Krause wrote: >>> >>> >>> Gary and Jim, >>> >>> Thanks, I got the fabric on the bottom of the left wing, it's all taught, ready to turn it over and do the top side, then stitching...ugh! >>> >>> Ray >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>>> On Aug 14, 2015, at 7:26 AM, Gary Boothe wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Beautiful, Ray!! >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>>> On Aug 13, 2015, at 1:56 PM, Ray Krause wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Maybe all those nice, green grass strips has something to do with that? >>>>> >>>>> Starting on covering the wings. The workshop gave birth to the fuselage last Monday. Making progress. >>>>> >>>>> Ray Krause >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 13, 2015, at 12:03 PM, AircamperN11MS wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Douwe, >>>>>> >>>>>> How was the fly-in? I'll bet it was great. You guys in the east seem to have more grass roots fly-ins than we do on the west coast. I sure wish I could attend those. It's just not close enough for me. >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>> >>>>>> -------- >>>>>> Scott Liefeld >>>>>> Flying N11MS since March 1972 >>>>>> Steel Tube >>>>>> C-85-12 >>>>>> Wire Wheels >>>>>> Brodhead in 1996 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Read this topic online here: >>>>>> >>>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445901#445901 >>>>> =================================== >>>>> =================================== >>>>> =================================== >>>>> =================================== >>>>> >>>>> 

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>> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:02:34 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Mong Sport Biplane for sale on ebay From: "MyrickPiet" Jack: anytime you want to identify an owner go to http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinquiry/nnum_inquiry.aspx Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445974#445974 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:53:47 AM PST US From: "Douwe Blumberg" Subject: Pietenpol-List: So Cal Hey Scott, Grew up in L.A. and lived just north of the city in Santa Clarita until 2001; then I ran away to the country. Hung out a lot at Santa Paula but didn't fly back then, just daydreamed. Douwe ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:57:37 AM PST US From: "Douwe Blumberg" Subject: Pietenpol-List: rib stitching I can't way I enjoyed rib stitching but I will say once I got set up and had a system, it wasn't bad at all. You can hit it hard and get it done in a couple of days if you're wired that way. I layed the wing nose down, marked all the holes and burned tiny holes at each spot. Then made up some long straight "needles" from welding rod (or buy them), got the lights nice and bright, turned on some music and stationed a friend on the other side. Then we just passed the needle back and forth to eachother. By looking through the premade holes, you can see into the wing to the needle to the correct opposite hole quite easily. Goes really quickly. Douwe ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:31:17 AM PST US From: Steven Dortch Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: rib stitching My grandson had the great idea of sending the needle back through backwards rather than trying to hit the hole with a curved tip. The curved tip is only for when you are going to the next set of holes. Try it. it seems backwards but it is faster. I found stitching to be like Zen Yoga (I guess). Set it up in a place that is comfortable. I did it under a nice shade tree. Put on some good music or Prairie home companion and have coffee or cokes available and just relax and stitch. Kind of like cleaning my guns. It can be soothing and calming. (the voices tell me to make sure my guns are clean!) Oh yeah, If the Prairie home companion pretty good joke show is on, don't try to stitch. You won't get anything done from laughing so much. Blue Skies, Steve D. On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 8:58 AM, Douwe Blumberg wrote: > I can=99t way I enjoyed rib stitching but I will say once I got set up and > had a system, it wasn=99t bad at all. You can hit it hard and get it done in > a couple of days if you=99re wired that way. > > > I layed the wing nose down, marked all the holes and burned tiny holes at > each spot. Then made up some long straight =9Cneedles=9D fro m welding rod (or > buy them), got the lights nice and bright, turned on some music and > stationed a friend on the other side. Then we just passed the needle bac k > and forth to eachother. By looking through the premade holes, you can se e > into the wing to the needle to the correct opposite hole quite easily. > Goes really quickly. > > > Douwe > > * > =========== .matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List> =========== =========== om/contribution> =========== > > * > > -- Blue Skies, Steve D ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 08:33:41 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: BPA Newsletter PDF From: "pjb" Chuck, Thankyou very much for your reply, I'll send you an email. Ray, I'll post info in a new thread. Cheers, Patricia Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445984#445984 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:12:33 AM PST US From: Steven Dortch Subject: Pietenpol-List: BPA Newsletter Hey guys, I enjoyed my BPA newsletter. I understand the need for articles. What do we want in the newsletter? Painting? Sources for engines? Discussions on safety? New things you have tried? Instrument panel ideas? IE should I put a full IFR glass panel in my Piet including an autopilot? (that ought to get some discussion.) Radio ideas? Funny stories? trips? Warnings? Training? Hangar organization? Hangar ideas? FAA problems? A discussion on the varieties of Piets, (Scout, Aircamper, Air Camper, Ariel, side by side...) Where should we send these articles? -- Blue Skies, Steve D ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:56:02 AM PST US From: Gary Boothe Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: BPA Newsletter Yes. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 15, 2015, at 10:11 AM, Steven Dortch wr ote: > > Hey guys, I enjoyed my BPA newsletter. I understand the need for articles. What do we want in the newsletter? > > Painting? > Sources for engines? > Discussions on safety? > New things you have tried? > Instrument panel ideas? IE should I put a full IFR glass panel in my Piet i ncluding an autopilot? (that ought to get some discussion.) > Radio ideas? > Funny stories? > trips? > Warnings? > Training? > Hangar organization? Hangar ideas? > FAA problems? > A discussion on the varieties of Piets, (Scout, Aircamper, Air Camper, Ari el, side by side...) > > Where should we send these articles? > > > -- > Blue Skies, > Steve D > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 10:06:52 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: welcome Semih From: "oldbird" I finally (re)started the fuselage construction. Since I have all the empennage components finished, after the fuselage, I will be left with wing construction. I have all the ribs finished, so it should be easy. 90% finished, 90% to go. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445988#445988 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 10:09:58 AM PST US From: Gary Boothe Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: BPA Newsletter Yes. Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 15, 2015, at 10:11 AM, Steven Dortch wr ote: > > Hey guys, I enjoyed my BPA newsletter. I understand the need for articles. What do we want in the newsletter? > > Painting? > Sources for engines? > Discussions on safety? > New things you have tried? > Instrument panel ideas? IE should I put a full IFR glass panel in my Piet i ncluding an autopilot? (that ought to get some discussion.) > Radio ideas? > Funny stories? > trips? > Warnings? > Training? > Hangar organization? Hangar ideas? > FAA problems? > A discussion on the varieties of Piets, (Scout, Aircamper, Air Camper, Ari el, side by side...) > > Where should we send these articles? > > > -- > Blue Skies, > Steve D > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 10:43:40 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: BPA Newsletter From: Gerrit-Jan Kaal All of the above ;-) On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 6:11 PM, Steven Dortch wrote: > Hey guys, I enjoyed my BPA newsletter. I understand the need for articles. > What do we want in the newsletter? > > Painting? > Sources for engines? > Discussions on safety? > New things you have tried? > Instrument panel ideas? IE should I put a full IFR glass panel in my Piet > including an autopilot? (that ought to get some discussion.) > Radio ideas? > Funny stories? > trips? > Warnings? > Training? > Hangar organization? Hangar ideas? > FAA problems? > A discussion on the varieties of Piets, (Scout, Aircamper, Air Camper, > Ariel, side by side...) > > Where should we send these articles? > > > -- > Blue Skies, > Steve D > > * > > > * > > ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 01:04:56 PM PST US From: Steven Dortch Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: BPA Newsletter OK pick one and start writing. I am fiddling with a Pietenpol accidents and safety article. Yes it is a rehash/rewrite of our previous discussions, but it will be put together in one article. Blue Skies, On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 12:43 PM, Gerrit-Jan Kaal wrote: > All of the above ;-) > > On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 6:11 PM, Steven Dortch > wrote: > >> Hey guys, I enjoyed my BPA newsletter. I understand the need for >> articles. What do we want in the newsletter? >> >> Painting? >> Sources for engines? >> Discussions on safety? >> New things you have tried? >> Instrument panel ideas? IE should I put a full IFR glass panel in my Piet >> including an autopilot? (that ought to get some discussion.) >> Radio ideas? >> Funny stories? >> trips? >> Warnings? >> Training? >> Hangar organization? Hangar ideas? >> FAA problems? >> A discussion on the varieties of Piets, (Scout, Aircamper, Air Camper, >> Ariel, side by side...) >> >> Where should we send these articles? >> >> >> -- >> Blue Skies, >> Steve D >> >> * >> >> " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> >> * >> >> > * > > > * > > -- Blue Skies, Steve D ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 05:21:11 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton From: "taildrags" Most of the flying I've done with Scout has been out of San Geronimo Airpark, which is 3000'x40', paved, but I could easily operate off of half of it. In fact, I most enjoyed operating off of the grass area to one side of the paved runway and it was no more than half the length of the paved runway and had trees and brush along the approach end. 2700' should be no problem at all. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446008#446008 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 06:41:03 PM PST US From: John Hofmann Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: BPA Newsletter Send any articles to bpa@pietenpols.org Best, -john- > On Aug 15, 2015, at 11:11 AM, Steven Dortch wrote: > > Hey guys, I enjoyed my BPA newsletter. I understand the need for articles. What do we want in the newsletter? > > Painting? > Sources for engines? > Discussions on safety? > New things you have tried? > Instrument panel ideas? IE should I put a full IFR glass panel in my Piet including an autopilot? (that ought to get some discussion.) > Radio ideas? > Funny stories? > trips? > Warnings? > Training? > Hangar organization? Hangar ideas? > FAA problems? > A discussion on the varieties of Piets, (Scout, Aircamper, Air Camper, Ariel, side by side...) > > Where should we send these articles? > > > -- > Blue Skies, > Steve D > > > ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 07:52:22 PM PST US From: Ray Krause Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton Oscar, Scott, Gary, etc, I will get in contact with Cliff Johnsen and see if his offer is still open. Would be fun to fly there, maybe for all the Piets in Ca and Or? I will try to go see Cliff this fall, when almond harvest over. Maybe this fall, or in the Spring for a gathering? Ray Krause PS: I think he said he had the engine overhauled on Bill's plane and some other work Sent from my iPad > On Aug 15, 2015, at 5:20 PM, taildrags wrote: > > > Most of the flying I've done with Scout has been out of San Geronimo Airpark, which is 3000'x40', paved, but I could easily operate off of half of it. In fact, I most enjoyed operating off of the grass area to one side of the paved runway and it was no more than half the length of the paved runway and had trees and brush along the approach end. 2700' should be no problem at all. > > -------- > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, OR > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" > A75 power > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446008#446008 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 08:00:37 PM PST US From: Ray Krause Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: rib stitching Steve, Douwe, Gary, I'm listening to the Prairie Home Companion as I write this! Sounds like a g ood idea. Douwe also had some good suggestions. I will follow them all and s tart stitching in a few days. Gary promised I could get one wing done in 8 h ours! The stop watch will be running! I finished covering the top of the wing today. Will shrink it tomorrow and s tart installing the re-Inforcing tapes. But my wife says we have to go to a p erformance tomorrow afternoon, damn! Thanks guys, Ray Krause Sent from my iPad > On Aug 15, 2015, at 7:30 AM, Steven Dortch wro te: > > My grandson had the great idea of sending the needle back through backward s rather than trying to hit the hole with a curved tip. The curved tip is on ly for when you are going to the next set of holes. > > Try it. it seems backwards but it is faster. > > I found stitching to be like Zen Yoga (I guess). Set it up in a place that is comfortable. I did it under a nice shade tree. Put on some good music o r Prairie home companion and have coffee or cokes available and just relax a nd stitch. > > Kind of like cleaning my guns. It can be soothing and calming. (the voices tell me to make sure my guns are clean!) > > Oh yeah, If the Prairie home companion pretty good joke show is on, don't t ry to stitch. You won't get anything done from laughing so much. > > Blue Skies, > Steve D. > >> On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 8:58 AM, Douwe Blumberg w rote: >> I can=99t way I enjoyed rib stitching but I will say once I got set up and had a system, it wasn=99t bad at all. You can hit it hard and get it done in a couple of days if you=99re wired that way. >> >> >> >> I layed the wing nose down, marked all the holes and burned tiny holes at each spot. Then made up some long straight =9Cneedles=9D from w elding rod (or buy them), got the lights nice and bright, turned on some mus ic and stationed a friend on the other side. Then we just passed the needle back and forth to eachother. By looking through the premade holes, you can see into the wing to the needle to the correct opposite hole quite easily. Goes really quickly. >> >> >> >> Douwe >> >> >> >> " target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >> tp://forums.matronics.com >> _blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> > > > > -- > Blue Skies, > Steve D > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 08:49:35 PM PST US From: Ray Krause Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton I've stitched all the control surfaces, so I know how enjoyable it is! Guess I will just suffer through it. Ray Sent from my iPad > On Aug 15, 2015, at 5:33 AM, Andre B. Charvet wrote: > > > We wouldn't want to deprive you of the fun. It really is enjoyable > Ben > > Ray Krause wrote: >> >> Got any extra time? Stitching is fun! >> >> Ray >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Aug 14, 2015, at 7:55 PM, Gary Boothe wrote: >>> >>> >>> "Stitching is fun...stitching is fun....stitching is fun..." >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Aug 14, 2015, at 8:44 PM, Ray Krause wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> Gary and Jim, >>>> >>>> Thanks, I got the fabric on the bottom of the left wing, it's all taught, ready to turn it over and do the top side, then stitching...ugh! >>>> >>>> Ray >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>>> On Aug 14, 2015, at 7:26 AM, Gary Boothe wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Beautiful, Ray!! >>>>> >>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 13, 2015, at 1:56 PM, Ray Krause wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Maybe all those nice, green grass strips has something to do with that? >>>>>> >>>>>> Starting on covering the wings. The workshop gave birth to the fuselage last Monday. Making progress. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ray Krause >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPad >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 13, 2015, at 12:03 PM, AircamperN11MS wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Douwe, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How was the fly-in? I'll bet it was great. You guys in the east seem to have more grass roots fly-ins than we do on the west coast. I sure wish I could attend those. It's just not close enough for me. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -------- >>>>>>> Scott Liefeld >>>>>>> Flying N11MS since March 1972 >>>>>>> Steel Tube >>>>>>> C-85-12 >>>>>>> Wire Wheels >>>>>>> Brodhead in 1996 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Read this topic online here: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=445901#445901 >>>>>> =================================== >>>>>> =================================== >>>>>> =================================== >>>>>> =================================== >>>>>> >>>>>> 

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