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     1. 02:34 PM - Re: So Cal (AircamperN11MS)
     2. 02:49 PM - Re: Heritage flyin Dayton (AircamperN11MS)
     3. 02:51 PM - Re: Heritage flyin Dayton (AircamperN11MS)
     4. 02:54 PM - Re: rib stitching (AircamperN11MS)
     5. 04:13 PM - Re: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton (Jim Boyer)
     6. 04:25 PM - Re: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton (Gary Boothe)
     7. 04:42 PM - Re: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton (Ray Krause)
     8. 04:43 PM - Re: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton (Ray Krause)
     9. 04:49 PM - Re: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton (Ray Krause)
    10. 04:54 PM - Re: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton (Ray Krause)
    11. 04:56 PM - Re: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton (Charles N. Campbell)
    12. 05:20 PM - Re: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton (Ray Krause)
    13. 05:28 PM - Re: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton (Gary Boothe)
    14. 05:54 PM - Re: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton (Ray Krause)
 
 
 
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      Douwe,
      
      Then you should where Quartz Hill is. That's where I live. I keep the plane at
      Fox Field in Lancaster. I just flew down to Santa Paula two weeks ago. I love
      that airport. Great history there. 
      My daughter, son in law and two grand kids live in Santa Clarita. If you ever make
      it back here, look me up. I would certainly like to meet you in person.
      
      It's a small world,
      
      Cheers,
      
      --------
      Scott Liefeld
      Flying N11MS since March 1972
      Steel Tube
      C-85-12
      Wire Wheels
      Brodhead in 1996
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446038#446038
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Heritage flyin Dayton | 
      
      
      Ray,
      
      I guess I got some bad information. 2700' is three times our need. Without brakes
      and landing on asphalt I need 700' to get stopped. Take offs??? I only need
      a 100' or so. 
      I say we need to pay him a visit.
      
      --------
      Scott Liefeld
      Flying N11MS since March 1972
      Steel Tube
      C-85-12
      Wire Wheels
      Brodhead in 1996
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446039#446039
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Heritage flyin Dayton | 
      
      
      The runway at home is 150' long and 7,000' wide. Really. :)
      
      --------
      Scott Liefeld
      Flying N11MS since March 1972
      Steel Tube
      C-85-12
      Wire Wheels
      Brodhead in 1996
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446040#446040
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: rib stitching | 
      
      
      Ray,
      
      It sounds to me like your wife just signed up to help you do some stitching. ;)
      
      --------
      Scott Liefeld
      Flying N11MS since March 1972
      Steel Tube
      C-85-12
      Wire Wheels
      Brodhead in 1996
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446041#446041
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Heritage flyin Dayton | 
      
      Hi Gary and Ray; 
      What rib stitching knot do you use? I used Staggerwing knot on tail surface
      s. Ray Marv and I will be rib stitching my first wing tomorrow. 
      Good luck Ray; PS did you space all knots 2 1/2 inches or 2 inches within p
      rop blast? 
      Thanks, 
      Jim 
      =C2- 
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Heritage flyin Dayton | 
      
      Modified Seine Knot, here. Prop wash areas get 2 1/2" spacing. Good luck tom
      orrow!
      
      Sent from my iPhone
      
      > On Aug 16, 2015, at 4:12 PM, Jim Boyer <boyerjrb@comcast.net> wrote:
      > 
      > Hi Gary and Ray;
      > What rib stitching knot do you use? I used Staggerwing knot on tail surfac
      es. Ray Marv and I will be rib stitching my first wing tomorrow.
      > Good luck Ray; PS did you space all knots 2 1/2 inches or 2 inches within p
      rop blast?
      > Thanks,
      > Jim
      >  
      > 
      > 
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      > 
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Heritage flyin Dayton | 
      
      I used the Modified Sein knot because the demo video is so pleasing to watch
      ! I could watch the demo all day long! I'm sure the demonstrator wants a rid
      e in my plane when it is done.  Hmmm, but it is only a one holer. Maybe it c
      ould be figured out!
      
      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y-oU1ikcAA
      
      Ray
      
      Sent from my iPad
      
      > On Aug 16, 2015, at 4:12 PM, Jim Boyer <boyerjrb@comcast.net> wrote:
      > 
      > Hi Gary and Ray;
      > What rib stitching knot do you use? I used Staggerwing knot on tail surfac
      es. Ray Marv and I will be rib stitching my first wing tomorrow.
      > Good luck Ray; PS did you space all knots 2 1/2 inches or 2 inches within p
      rop blast?
      > Thanks,
      > Jim
      >  
      > 
      > 
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| Subject:  | Re: Heritage flyin Dayton | 
      
      So, did you do 2.5" on everything?
      
      Ray
      
      Sent from my iPad
      
      > On Aug 16, 2015, at 4:24 PM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
      > 
      > Modified Seine Knot, here. Prop wash areas get 2 1/2" spacing. Good luck t
      omorrow!
      > 
      > Sent from my iPhone
      > 
      >> On Aug 16, 2015, at 4:12 PM, Jim Boyer <boyerjrb@comcast.net> wrote:
      >> 
      >> Hi Gary and Ray;
      >> What rib stitching knot do you use? I used Staggerwing knot on tail surfa
      ces. Ray Marv and I will be rib stitching my first wing tomorrow.
      >> Good luck Ray; PS did you space all knots 2 1/2 inches or 2 inches within
       prop blast?
      >> Thanks,
      >> Jim
      > 
      > 
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| Subject:  | Re: Heritage flyin Dayton | 
      
      
      I will contact him as soon as almond and walnut harvests are done. I will keep
      you informed.
      
      I studied the Modified Seine Knot video and it was pretty easy to understand. Yes,
      my wife might end up helping, if not my grandson!
      
      Be sure to check out the video!
      
      Ray
      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y-oU1ikcAA
      
      
      Sent from my iPad
      
      > On Aug 16, 2015, at 2:49 PM, AircamperN11MS <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org> wrote:
      > 
      > 
      > Ray,
      > 
      > I guess I got some bad information. 2700' is three times our need. Without brakes
      and landing on asphalt I need 700' to get stopped. Take offs??? I only need
      a 100' or so. 
      > I say we need to pay him a visit.
      > 
      > --------
      > Scott Liefeld
      > Flying N11MS since March 1972
      > Steel Tube
      > C-85-12
      > Wire Wheels
      > Brodhead in 1996
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446039#446039
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Heritage flyin Dayton | 
      
      
      When I was learning to fly, my old Marine instructor took me to Chico Municipal
      airport KCIC which was then just and "almost abandoned" airport. It seemed like
      it was a mile long and .5 miles wide. On windy days he had me land the Aeronca
      from every which direction to practice cross wind landings, downwind, etc.
      landing back at Ranchero was then pretty simple!
      
      Ray
      Sent from my iPad
      
      > On Aug 16, 2015, at 2:51 PM, AircamperN11MS <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org> wrote:
      > 
      > 
      > The runway at home is 150' long and 7,000' wide. Really. :)
      > 
      > --------
      > Scott Liefeld
      > Flying N11MS since March 1972
      > Steel Tube
      > C-85-12
      > Wire Wheels
      > Brodhead in 1996
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > Read this topic online here:
      > 
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446040#446040
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Heritage flyin Dayton | 
      
      I believe the rule is 3-1/2 inches for airplanes of our airspeed.  It looks
      better if you just halve that figure to 1-3/4 inches in the prop blast area
      (plus one rib).  Chuck
      
      On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 7:12 PM, Jim Boyer <boyerjrb@comcast.net> wrote:
      
      > Hi Gary and Ray;
      > What rib stitching knot do you use? I used Staggerwing knot on tail
      > surfaces. Ray Marv and I will be rib stitching my first wing tomorrow.
      > Good luck Ray; PS did you space all knots 2 1/2 inches or 2 inches within
      > prop blast?
      > Thanks,
      > Jim
      >
      >
      > *
      >
      >
      > *
      >
      >
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Heritage flyin Dayton | 
      
      Chuck,
      
      Any rules on where the prop blast is? Farther out on the left wing (how many
       ribs)?  How far out on the right?  I just did 2" on all the control surface
      s. Maybe overkill, but the runs are so short.
      
      Ray Krause
      
      
      Sent from my iPad
      
      > On Aug 16, 2015, at 4:56 PM, Charles N. Campbell <charlescampbell1924@gmai
      l.com> wrote:
      > 
      > I believe the rule is 3-1/2 inches for airplanes of our airspeed.  It look
      s better if you just halve that figure to 1-3/4 inches in the prop blast are
      a (plus one rib).  Chuck
      > 
      >> On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 7:12 PM, Jim Boyer <boyerjrb@comcast.net> wrote:
      >> Hi Gary and Ray;
      >> What rib stitching knot do you use? I used Staggerwing knot on tail surfa
      ces. Ray Marv and I will be rib stitching my first wing tomorrow.
      >> Good luck Ray; PS did you space all knots 2 1/2 inches or 2 inches within
       prop blast?
      >> Thanks,
      >> Jim
      >>  
      >> 
      >> 
      >> 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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      >> 
      > 
      > 
      > 
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      > 
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Heritage flyin Dayton | 
      
      No, just a couple ribs. 3 1/2" everywhere else...
      
      Sent from my iPhone
      
      > On Aug 16, 2015, at 4:42 PM, Ray Krause <raykrause@frontiernet.net> wrote:
      
      > 
      > So, did you do 2.5" on everything?
      > 
      > Ray
      > 
      > Sent from my iPad
      > 
      >> On Aug 16, 2015, at 4:24 PM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
      >> 
      >> Modified Seine Knot, here. Prop wash areas get 2 1/2" spacing. Good luck t
      omorrow!
      >> 
      >> Sent from my iPhone
      >> 
      >>> On Aug 16, 2015, at 4:12 PM, Jim Boyer <boyerjrb@comcast.net> wrote:
      >>> 
      >>> Hi Gary and Ray;
      >>> What rib stitching knot do you use? I used Staggerwing knot on tail surf
      aces. Ray Marv and I will be rib stitching my first wing tomorrow.
      >>> Good luck Ray; PS did you space all knots 2 1/2 inches or 2 inches withi
      n prop blast?
      >>> Thanks,
      >>> Jim
      > 
      > 
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| Subject:  | Re: Heritage flyin Dayton | 
      
      That sounds good. 3.5" saves a lot of stitches.
      
      Thanks,
      
      Ray
      
      Sent from my iPad
      
      > On Aug 16, 2015, at 5:28 PM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
      > 
      > No, just a couple ribs. 3 1/2" everywhere else...
      > 
      > Sent from my iPhone
      > 
      >> On Aug 16, 2015, at 4:42 PM, Ray Krause <raykrause@frontiernet.net> wrote
      :
      >> 
      >> So, did you do 2.5" on everything?
      >> 
      >> Ray
      >> 
      >> Sent from my iPad
      >> 
      >>> On Aug 16, 2015, at 4:24 PM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
      >>> 
      >>> Modified Seine Knot, here. Prop wash areas get 2 1/2" spacing. Good luck
       tomorrow!
      >>> 
      >>> Sent from my iPhone
      >>> 
      >>>> On Aug 16, 2015, at 4:12 PM, Jim Boyer <boyerjrb@comcast.net> wrote:
      >>>> 
      >>>> Hi Gary and Ray;
      >>>> What rib stitching knot do you use? I used Staggerwing knot on tail sur
      faces. Ray Marv and I will be rib stitching my first wing tomorrow.
      >>>> Good luck Ray; PS did you space all knots 2 1/2 inches or 2 inches with
      in prop blast?
      >>>> Thanks,
      >>>> Jim
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