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Sun 08/16/15


Total Messages Posted: 14



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     1. 02:34 PM - Re: So Cal (AircamperN11MS)
     2. 02:49 PM - Re: Heritage flyin Dayton (AircamperN11MS)
     3. 02:51 PM - Re: Heritage flyin Dayton (AircamperN11MS)
     4. 02:54 PM - Re: rib stitching (AircamperN11MS)
     5. 04:13 PM - Re: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton (Jim Boyer)
     6. 04:25 PM - Re: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton (Gary Boothe)
     7. 04:42 PM - Re: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton (Ray Krause)
     8. 04:43 PM - Re: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton (Ray Krause)
     9. 04:49 PM - Re: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton (Ray Krause)
    10. 04:54 PM - Re: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton (Ray Krause)
    11. 04:56 PM - Re: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton (Charles N. Campbell)
    12. 05:20 PM - Re: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton (Ray Krause)
    13. 05:28 PM - Re: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton (Gary Boothe)
    14. 05:54 PM - Re: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton (Ray Krause)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:34:44 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: So Cal
    From: "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>
    Douwe, Then you should where Quartz Hill is. That's where I live. I keep the plane at Fox Field in Lancaster. I just flew down to Santa Paula two weeks ago. I love that airport. Great history there. My daughter, son in law and two grand kids live in Santa Clarita. If you ever make it back here, look me up. I would certainly like to meet you in person. It's a small world, Cheers, -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446038#446038


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    Time: 02:49:48 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton
    From: "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>
    Ray, I guess I got some bad information. 2700' is three times our need. Without brakes and landing on asphalt I need 700' to get stopped. Take offs??? I only need a 100' or so. I say we need to pay him a visit. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446039#446039


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    Time: 02:51:57 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton
    From: "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>
    The runway at home is 150' long and 7,000' wide. Really. :) -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446040#446040


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    Time: 02:54:43 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: rib stitching
    From: "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>
    Ray, It sounds to me like your wife just signed up to help you do some stitching. ;) -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446041#446041


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    Time: 04:13:12 PM PST US
    From: Jim Boyer <boyerjrb@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton
    Hi Gary and Ray; What rib stitching knot do you use? I used Staggerwing knot on tail surface s. Ray Marv and I will be rib stitching my first wing tomorrow. Good luck Ray; PS did you space all knots 2 1/2 inches or 2 inches within p rop blast? Thanks, Jim =C2-


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    Time: 04:25:20 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton
    From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Modified Seine Knot, here. Prop wash areas get 2 1/2" spacing. Good luck tom orrow! Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 16, 2015, at 4:12 PM, Jim Boyer <boyerjrb@comcast.net> wrote: > > Hi Gary and Ray; > What rib stitching knot do you use? I used Staggerwing knot on tail surfac es. Ray Marv and I will be rib stitching my first wing tomorrow. > Good luck Ray; PS did you space all knots 2 1/2 inches or 2 inches within p rop blast? > Thanks, > Jim > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >


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    Time: 04:42:19 PM PST US
    From: Ray Krause <raykrause@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton
    I used the Modified Sein knot because the demo video is so pleasing to watch ! I could watch the demo all day long! I'm sure the demonstrator wants a rid e in my plane when it is done. Hmmm, but it is only a one holer. Maybe it c ould be figured out! https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y-oU1ikcAA Ray Sent from my iPad > On Aug 16, 2015, at 4:12 PM, Jim Boyer <boyerjrb@comcast.net> wrote: > > Hi Gary and Ray; > What rib stitching knot do you use? I used Staggerwing knot on tail surfac es. Ray Marv and I will be rib stitching my first wing tomorrow. > Good luck Ray; PS did you space all knots 2 1/2 inches or 2 inches within p rop blast? > Thanks, > Jim > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >


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    Time: 04:43:17 PM PST US
    From: Ray Krause <raykrause@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton
    So, did you do 2.5" on everything? Ray Sent from my iPad > On Aug 16, 2015, at 4:24 PM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: > > Modified Seine Knot, here. Prop wash areas get 2 1/2" spacing. Good luck t omorrow! > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 16, 2015, at 4:12 PM, Jim Boyer <boyerjrb@comcast.net> wrote: >> >> Hi Gary and Ray; >> What rib stitching knot do you use? I used Staggerwing knot on tail surfa ces. Ray Marv and I will be rib stitching my first wing tomorrow. >> Good luck Ray; PS did you space all knots 2 1/2 inches or 2 inches within prop blast? >> Thanks, >> Jim > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >


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    Time: 04:49:01 PM PST US
    From: Ray Krause <raykrause@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton
    I will contact him as soon as almond and walnut harvests are done. I will keep you informed. I studied the Modified Seine Knot video and it was pretty easy to understand. Yes, my wife might end up helping, if not my grandson! Be sure to check out the video! Ray https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y-oU1ikcAA Sent from my iPad > On Aug 16, 2015, at 2:49 PM, AircamperN11MS <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org> wrote: > > > Ray, > > I guess I got some bad information. 2700' is three times our need. Without brakes and landing on asphalt I need 700' to get stopped. Take offs??? I only need a 100' or so. > I say we need to pay him a visit. > > -------- > Scott Liefeld > Flying N11MS since March 1972 > Steel Tube > C-85-12 > Wire Wheels > Brodhead in 1996 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446039#446039 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 04:54:58 PM PST US
    From: Ray Krause <raykrause@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton
    When I was learning to fly, my old Marine instructor took me to Chico Municipal airport KCIC which was then just and "almost abandoned" airport. It seemed like it was a mile long and .5 miles wide. On windy days he had me land the Aeronca from every which direction to practice cross wind landings, downwind, etc. landing back at Ranchero was then pretty simple! Ray Sent from my iPad > On Aug 16, 2015, at 2:51 PM, AircamperN11MS <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org> wrote: > > > The runway at home is 150' long and 7,000' wide. Really. :) > > -------- > Scott Liefeld > Flying N11MS since March 1972 > Steel Tube > C-85-12 > Wire Wheels > Brodhead in 1996 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446040#446040 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 04:56:30 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton
    From: "Charles N. Campbell" <charlescampbell1924@gmail.com>
    I believe the rule is 3-1/2 inches for airplanes of our airspeed. It looks better if you just halve that figure to 1-3/4 inches in the prop blast area (plus one rib). Chuck On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 7:12 PM, Jim Boyer <boyerjrb@comcast.net> wrote: > Hi Gary and Ray; > What rib stitching knot do you use? I used Staggerwing knot on tail > surfaces. Ray Marv and I will be rib stitching my first wing tomorrow. > Good luck Ray; PS did you space all knots 2 1/2 inches or 2 inches within > prop blast? > Thanks, > Jim > > > * > > > * > >


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    Time: 05:20:29 PM PST US
    From: Ray Krause <raykrause@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton
    Chuck, Any rules on where the prop blast is? Farther out on the left wing (how many ribs)? How far out on the right? I just did 2" on all the control surface s. Maybe overkill, but the runs are so short. Ray Krause Sent from my iPad > On Aug 16, 2015, at 4:56 PM, Charles N. Campbell <charlescampbell1924@gmai l.com> wrote: > > I believe the rule is 3-1/2 inches for airplanes of our airspeed. It look s better if you just halve that figure to 1-3/4 inches in the prop blast are a (plus one rib). Chuck > >> On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 7:12 PM, Jim Boyer <boyerjrb@comcast.net> wrote: >> Hi Gary and Ray; >> What rib stitching knot do you use? I used Staggerwing knot on tail surfa ces. Ray Marv and I will be rib stitching my first wing tomorrow. >> Good luck Ray; PS did you space all knots 2 1/2 inches or 2 inches within prop blast? >> Thanks, >> Jim >> >> >> >> 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >


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    Time: 05:28:46 PM PST US
    From: Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton
    No, just a couple ribs. 3 1/2" everywhere else... Sent from my iPhone > On Aug 16, 2015, at 4:42 PM, Ray Krause <raykrause@frontiernet.net> wrote: > > So, did you do 2.5" on everything? > > Ray > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Aug 16, 2015, at 4:24 PM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: >> >> Modified Seine Knot, here. Prop wash areas get 2 1/2" spacing. Good luck t omorrow! >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >>> On Aug 16, 2015, at 4:12 PM, Jim Boyer <boyerjrb@comcast.net> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Gary and Ray; >>> What rib stitching knot do you use? I used Staggerwing knot on tail surf aces. Ray Marv and I will be rib stitching my first wing tomorrow. >>> Good luck Ray; PS did you space all knots 2 1/2 inches or 2 inches withi n prop blast? >>> Thanks, >>> Jim > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >


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    Time: 05:54:31 PM PST US
    From: Ray Krause <raykrause@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: Heritage flyin Dayton
    That sounds good. 3.5" saves a lot of stitches. Thanks, Ray Sent from my iPad > On Aug 16, 2015, at 5:28 PM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: > > No, just a couple ribs. 3 1/2" everywhere else... > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 16, 2015, at 4:42 PM, Ray Krause <raykrause@frontiernet.net> wrote : >> >> So, did you do 2.5" on everything? >> >> Ray >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Aug 16, 2015, at 4:24 PM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote: >>> >>> Modified Seine Knot, here. Prop wash areas get 2 1/2" spacing. Good luck tomorrow! >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Aug 16, 2015, at 4:12 PM, Jim Boyer <boyerjrb@comcast.net> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi Gary and Ray; >>>> What rib stitching knot do you use? I used Staggerwing knot on tail sur faces. Ray Marv and I will be rib stitching my first wing tomorrow. >>>> Good luck Ray; PS did you space all knots 2 1/2 inches or 2 inches with in prop blast? >>>> Thanks, >>>> Jim >> >> >> D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> npol-List"">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >> D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> //forums.matronics.com >> D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> ot;">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >> D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >




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