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1. 07:30 AM - Re: Dick's Rotec Piet for sale (tools)
2. 08:21 AM - Patricia's Pietenpol (pjb)
3. 08:24 AM - Re: Patricia's Pietenpol (pjb)
4. 08:38 AM - Re: Dick's Rotec Piet for sale (MPB)
5. 09:42 AM - Re: Patricia's Pietenpol (Gerrit-Jan Kaal)
6. 09:45 AM - Progress (oldbird)
7. 11:10 AM - Re: Progress (bdewenter)
8. 12:19 PM - Re: Patricia's Pietenpol (AircamperN11MS)
9. 01:53 PM - Re: Patricia's Pietenpol (Dan Yocum)
10. 02:27 PM - Re: Patricia's Pietenpol (AircamperN11MS)
11. 02:54 PM - Re: Re: Patricia's Pietenpol (Gary Boothe)
12. 03:01 PM - Re: Patricia's Pietenpol (Jeff Boatright)
13. 04:49 PM - Re: Patricia's Pietenpol (aerocarjake)
14. 06:32 PM - Re: Re: Patricia's Pietenpol (Dan Yocum)
15. 08:30 PM - Re: Re: Patricia's Pietenpol (Ray Krause)
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| Subject: | Re: Dick's Rotec Piet for sale |
I agree with jeff. From what I can gather talking to Dick and dicks friends that
was his opinion as well. That being said, it is priced accordingly...
Also on barnstormers is dicks volmer and scout projects, I think also priced appropriately.
Tools
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| Subject: | Patricia's Pietenpol |
Hello Everyone,
Here are a couple of photo's of my Piet.
It's almost ready for final inspection :D
Cheers,
Patricia
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| Subject: | Re: Patricia's Pietenpol |
Another photo.
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| Subject: | Re: Dick's Rotec Piet for sale |
Definitely worth the price for one of the most recognizable Piets out there...
might we a little out of my league as far wrenching on a unique motor goes though.
Thanks for the feedback.
Mike
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| Subject: | Re: Patricia's Pietenpol |
Very nice...
On Thu, Aug 20, 2015 at 5:20 PM, pjb <pjb@ornithopter-pilot.com> wrote:
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> Hello Everyone,
> Here are a couple of photo's of my Piet.
> It's almost ready for final inspection :D
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> Cheers,
> Patricia
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I (re)started the fuselage. Today, it started to look like a fuselage. I hope within
a few days, it will look better. Yes, it is wide. Inside width is 600mm
(about 24 inches).
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OldBird,
Looking nice, but I do not see the inner gussets - these need to be in place before
adding your cross members.
Bob
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Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter
Dayton OH
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| Subject: | Re: Patricia's Pietenpol |
Patricia,
You share the same name as my wife.
It looks very nice. It appears to be a one piece wing. Who made the prop? I like
the shape of it. What size Cont. engine are you using? Yes, we all like
to know the details.
Good luck with the inspection,
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | Re: Patricia's Pietenpol |
Your rib stitching looks a bit spartan on the rudder. AC43.13 is pretty
specific on stitch spacing. See page 2-57, here:
http://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Advisory_Circular/AC43.13-1b.pdf
In the slipstream they should be spaced no greater than 2.5" apart (or
6.35cm for you folks in countries with real measurement systems.)
On 08/20/2015 10:20 AM, pjb wrote:
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> Hello Everyone,
> Here are a couple of photo's of my Piet.
> It's almost ready for final inspection :D
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> Cheers,
> Patricia
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| Subject: | Re: Patricia's Pietenpol |
Yocum,
Her Spacing is fine. The slip stream they are referring to is for the wings. The
paragraph I placed here is directly from the page you referred and directly
below the graph. It is noted for the EMPENNAGE. There are other publications
that have the spacing as well. I used the spacing that the POLY FIBER manual
indicated and it very much reflects what Patricia has done.
What ever is written in the covering system manual (this can vary from the different
processes available) is what should apply to surfaces that are being covered
with that system.
"When the lace spacing on the empennage surfaces
and fuselage, where so incorporated by the original
aircraft manufacturer, cannot be determined, a
maximum spacing equal to two times the spacing shown
in figure 2-12 for the slipstream area on the wings may
be used".
You need to read the complete description and not just look at the graph and pictures.
I am not trying to cause friction but only trying to point you the proper direction.
Respectfully,
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | Re: Patricia's Pietenpol |
I had brought that question up with Dan, in a private email, as that
distinction had eluded me. I will say, though, and I'm not sure if anyone
else has noticed, but I have felt my rudder vibrate over 90 mph.
unfortunately, my poor old neck won't let me turn that far to see what's
going on. At this point, I'm glad to have the closer spacing.
Gary Boothe
NX308MB
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
AircamperN11MS
Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 2:26 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Patricia's Pietenpol
--> <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>
Yocum,
Her Spacing is fine. The slip stream they are referring to is for the
wings. The paragraph I placed here is directly from the page you referred
and directly below the graph. It is noted for the EMPENNAGE. There are
other publications that have the spacing as well. I used the spacing that
the POLY FIBER manual indicated and it very much reflects what Patricia has
done.
What ever is written in the covering system manual (this can vary from the
different processes available) is what should apply to surfaces that are
being covered with that system.
"When the lace spacing on the empennage surfaces and fuselage, where so
incorporated by the original aircraft manufacturer, cannot be determined, a
maximum spacing equal to two times the spacing shown in figure 2-12 for the
slipstream area on the wings may be used".
You need to read the complete description and not just look at the graph and
pictures.
I am not trying to cause friction but only trying to point you the proper
direction.
Respectfully,
--------
Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | Re: Patricia's Pietenpol |
My tail shakes at 90 mph, but not my rudder...
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| Subject: | Re: Patricia's Pietenpol |
Really nice..... gotta love red airplanes!
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Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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| Subject: | Re: Patricia's Pietenpol |
Ah! You are right!
That really would have been a wet towel to have to tear down the rudder to re-stitch.
Probably would have added a couple grand to the total cost of the plane...
--
yocum137@gmail.com
> On Aug 20, 2015, at 4:25 PM, AircamperN11MS <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org> wrote:
>
>
> Yocum,
>
> Her Spacing is fine. The slip stream they are referring to is for the wings.
The paragraph I placed here is directly from the page you referred and directly
below the graph. It is noted for the EMPENNAGE. There are other publications
that have the spacing as well. I used the spacing that the POLY FIBER manual
indicated and it very much reflects what Patricia has done.
>
> What ever is written in the covering system manual (this can vary from the different
processes available) is what should apply to surfaces that are being covered
with that system.
>
> "When the lace spacing on the empennage surfaces
> and fuselage, where so incorporated by the original
> aircraft manufacturer, cannot be determined, a
> maximum spacing equal to two times the spacing shown
> in figure 2-12 for the slipstream area on the wings may
> be used".
>
> You need to read the complete description and not just look at the graph and
pictures.
>
> I am not trying to cause friction but only trying to point you the proper direction.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> --------
> Scott Liefeld
> Flying N11MS since March 1972
> Steel Tube
> C-85-12
> Wire Wheels
> Brodhead in 1996
>
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>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446211#446211
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| Subject: | Re: Patricia's Pietenpol |
Gary,
The camera! It's better than your old neck!
Thanks for the directives on stitching. I'm working alone so far and it's going
OK.
Ray
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> On Aug 20, 2015, at 2:52 PM, Gary Boothe <gboothe5@comcast.net> wrote:
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>
> I had brought that question up with Dan, in a private email, as that
> distinction had eluded me. I will say, though, and I'm not sure if anyone
> else has noticed, but I have felt my rudder vibrate over 90 mph.
> unfortunately, my poor old neck won't let me turn that far to see what's
> going on. At this point, I'm glad to have the closer spacing.
>
> Gary Boothe
> NX308MB
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>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> AircamperN11MS
> Sent: Thursday, August 20, 2015 2:26 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Patricia's Pietenpol
>
> --> <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>
>
> Yocum,
>
> Her Spacing is fine. The slip stream they are referring to is for the
> wings. The paragraph I placed here is directly from the page you referred
> and directly below the graph. It is noted for the EMPENNAGE. There are
> other publications that have the spacing as well. I used the spacing that
> the POLY FIBER manual indicated and it very much reflects what Patricia has
> done.
>
> What ever is written in the covering system manual (this can vary from the
> different processes available) is what should apply to surfaces that are
> being covered with that system.
>
> "When the lace spacing on the empennage surfaces and fuselage, where so
> incorporated by the original aircraft manufacturer, cannot be determined, a
> maximum spacing equal to two times the spacing shown in figure 2-12 for the
> slipstream area on the wings may be used".
>
> You need to read the complete description and not just look at the graph and
> pictures.
>
> I am not trying to cause friction but only trying to point you the proper
> direction.
>
> Respectfully,
>
> --------
> Scott Liefeld
> Flying N11MS since March 1972
> Steel Tube
> C-85-12
> Wire Wheels
> Brodhead in 1996
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446211#446211
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