---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Tue 08/25/15: 30 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 05:39 AM - Re: Re: Noise from Japan (M W Stanley) 2. 06:00 AM - Re: Noise from Japan (AircamperN11MS) 3. 06:20 AM - Re: Fuel tank progress/welding..... (bdewenter) 4. 06:28 AM - Re: Tools (bdewenter) 5. 06:34 AM - Weekend flying adventure (AircamperN11MS) 6. 06:36 AM - Re: Patricia's Pietenpol (bdewenter) 7. 06:39 AM - Re: Weekend flying adventure (AircamperN11MS) 8. 06:41 AM - Re: Weekend flying adventure (AircamperN11MS) 9. 06:45 AM - Re: Weekend flying adventure (AircamperN11MS) 10. 06:54 AM - Re: Re: Noise from Japan (M W Stanley) 11. 07:08 AM - Re: Noise from Japan (AircamperN11MS) 12. 07:31 AM - Re: Weekend flying adventure (Gary Boothe) 13. 07:47 AM - Re: Weekend flying adventure (AircamperN11MS) 14. 09:06 AM - Re: Fuel tank progress/welding..... (aerocarjake) 15. 09:23 AM - Re: Re: Tools (Ned Lebens) 16. 09:25 AM - Re: Re: Weekend flying adventure (Ray Krause) 17. 09:27 AM - Re: Weekend flying adventure (goffelectric@comcast.net) 18. 09:34 AM - Re: Weekend flying adventure (AircamperN11MS) 19. 11:32 AM - Re: Re: Weekend flying adventure (Ray Krause) 20. 11:42 AM - Re: Weekend flying adventure (Ray Krause) 21. 11:50 AM - Re: Weekend flying adventure (Jim Boyer) 22. 11:50 AM - Re: Weekend flying adventure (AircamperN11MS) 23. 11:56 AM - Re: Re: Weekend flying adventure (Jim Boyer) 24. 12:03 PM - Re: Weekend flying adventure (AircamperN11MS) 25. 01:08 PM - Alternative Engine Round-Up (Oscar Zuniga) 26. 01:17 PM - Re: Alternative Engine Round-Up (woodflier) 27. 02:00 PM - Re: Alternative Engine Round-Up (AircamperN11MS) 28. 04:45 PM - Re: Weekend flying adventure (Charles N. Campbell) 29. 07:33 PM - Re: Weekend flying adventure (Ray Krause) 30. 11:21 PM - Re: Re: Tools (Clif Dawson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 05:39:13 AM PST US From: "M W Stanley" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Noise from Japan Hi Scott, Thanks for the history on your wheels, good stuff, just the right amount of info! I like it when owners know the details/history of the various bits and pieces attached to their homebuilt aircraft. It makes the aircraft even more interesting. Some people aren't really into that sort of thing but as for me, I think it's great! Cheers Mark Japan > > > Mark, > > My wheels are from the early 1920's. ............. > Maybe more than you wanted to know? > > Cheers, > > -------- > Scott Liefeld > Flying N11MS since March 1972 > Steel Tube > C-85-12 > Wire Wheels > Brodhead in 1996 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 06:00:36 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Noise from Japan From: "AircamperN11MS" Mark, This is the only other picture I have seen of a plane with wheels like mine. I have never seen them on another flying airplane. I also have an old catalog somewhere at home that shows them for sale. These wheels are someting I am always looking for when I visit muesum's. https://www.facebook.com/605160959538160/photos/a.629510563769866.1073741827.605160959538160/748494335204821/?type=1&theater -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446378#446378 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:20:08 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuel tank progress/welding..... From: "bdewenter" Wholly smoke! Beautiful tank and must be 48" wide? Anyone for piet-piet in flight refueling at Brodhead? -------- Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter Dayton OH Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446380#446380 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 06:28:18 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Tools From: "bdewenter" Heres a short list of what I found to be valuable clamps, clamps and more clamps 6' or 8' metal ruler 24" metal square miter saw (compound) jig saw with variable speed hacksaw with HIGH quality blades - no junk blades craftsman "razor blade" cutter wood and metal files clamps, clamps and more clamps Large bench top vice router and table various router bits many love a dedicated sanding station but I do not have one bench top grinder clamps, clamps and more clamps excellent set of drill bits drill press hand drill drill guide clamps, clamps and more clamps Box fan for hot days Kerosene heater for cold days beg use of table saw from a friend -------- Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter Dayton OH Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446381#446381 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 06:34:42 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Weekend flying adventure From: "AircamperN11MS" Hi Pieters, I was finally able to get away for a full weekend of flying. I flew to San Diego's Gillespie Field on Friday evening after work. It is about 170 sm from My base Fox Field. I had a heavy tailwind all the way down there and made the trip in a blazing 1 hour and 55 minutes. I'm sure that will never happen again. The purpose of this trip was to hang out with dad and do some flying with him. He is 84 and still flies at least once a week. Saturday morning we hopped in our Piets and flew down to Brown Field next to the Mexican border to hang with all the EAA chapter 14 guys and gals and do some hangar flying. We had a great time while we were there. After lunch jumped back in the planes and loitered around San Diego county for awhile before landing back at Gillespie field. My sister brought my Nephew over to dads hangar for a visit. My Nephew is currently taking flying lessons and now has about 7 hours time. I let him sit in my planes pilots seat where he was just completely amazed at the total lack of anything in the cockpit. He is flying Cherokees. Then he saw dads KR2 and wanted to try that on for size. He managed to get in but was folded up like a pretzel. He wanted to see me in the KR2 and asked me to climb into it. I have never tried before to get in it so I tried. Lets just say I don't fit and couldn't even get into it. Sunday I left to fly home and had a tailwind again. Lucky me. 2 hours 10 minutes to get home. In all, I got almost 6 hours flying in over the weekend and a sun burnt neck and nose. The sunburn was well worth it. Dad and I flew both these planes back to Brodhead back in 1996, We were gone for 16 days, flew 9 of those days and put 70 hours on them for that trip. I sure wish we could do that again, but it is not in the cards. Maybe another time, perhaps with my nephew and perhaps he could fly dads plane there along side me. Keep building y'all. These planes make for wonderful memories. I'll try to add pics now. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446382#446382 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/20150822_102959_1_824.jpg ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 06:36:35 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Patricia's Pietenpol From: "bdewenter" How much for the cub fuel tank? -------- Bob 'Early Builder' Dewenter Dayton OH Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446383#446383 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 06:39:02 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Weekend flying adventure From: "AircamperN11MS" Sorry about the sizing. i don't know how to fix that. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446384#446384 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/20150822_114804_949.jpg ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:41:37 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Weekend flying adventure From: "AircamperN11MS" Another -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446386#446386 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_8619_427.jpg ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:45:11 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Weekend flying adventure From: "AircamperN11MS" Last one -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446387#446387 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/img_6737_172.jpg ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 06:54:06 AM PST US From: "M W Stanley" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Noise from Japan Hi Scott, Thanks for the link, I like wire wheels but I like balloon wheels at the same time. Those wheels seem to be a bit of both. I am also into restoring 80's road racing bicycles (often ride them to work and back) so lacing up wheels is something I do. Lacing/truing wheels can be both interesting and frustrating! Those wheels look neat with the radial spoke pattern. Bikes sometimes have the front wheel laced with a radial pattern, but not the rear wheel as pedaling induces similar loads as trying to use brakes on you wheels. Anyway, if I ever get finished, I hope to fit wire wheels.......but that is a long way off........ Cheers Mark Stanley > Mark, > > This is the only other picture I have seen of a plane with wheels like > mine. I have never seen them on another flying airplane. I also have an > old catalog somewhere at home that shows them for sale. These wheels are > someting I am always looking for when I visit muesum's. > > https://www.facebook.com/605160959538160/photos/a.629510563769866.1073741827.605160959538160/748494335204821/?type=1&theater > > -------- > Scott Liefeld ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 07:08:16 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Noise from Japan From: "AircamperN11MS" Yes, I wish I could find fat balloon type tires for mine. It would be nice for the type flying I do. I currently use 16" motor cycle tires. They are getting harder to find these days. My last set of tires lasted 16 years. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446389#446389 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 07:31:35 AM PST US From: "Gary Boothe" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: Weekend flying adventure That's quite a flight, Scott, through some busy airspace! Hat's off to you...again! Gary Boothe NX308MB -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of AircamperN11MS Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 6:34 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Weekend flying adventure --> Hi Pieters, I was finally able to get away for a full weekend of flying. I flew to San Diego's Gillespie Field on Friday evening after work. It is about 170 sm from My base Fox Field. I had a heavy tailwind all the way down there and made the trip in a blazing 1 hour and 55 minutes. I'm sure that will never happen again. The purpose of this trip was to hang out with dad and do some flying with him. He is 84 and still flies at least once a week. Saturday morning we hopped in our Piets and flew down to Brown Field next to the Mexican border to hang with all the EAA chapter 14 guys and gals and do some hangar flying. We had a great time while we were there. After lunch jumped back in the planes and loitered around San Diego county for awhile before landing back at Gillespie field. My sister brought my Nephew over to dads hangar for a visit. My Nephew is currently taking flying lessons and now has about 7 hours time. I let him sit in my planes pilots seat where he was just completely amazed at the total lack of anything in the cockpit. He is flying Cherokees. Then he saw dads KR2 and wanted to try that on for size. He managed to get in but was folded up like a pretzel. He wanted to see me in the KR2 and asked me to climb into it. I have never tried before to get in it so I tried. Lets just say I don't fit and couldn't even get into it. Sunday I left to fly home and had a tailwind again. Lucky me. 2 hours 10 minutes to get home. In all, I got almost 6 hours flying in over the weekend and a sun burnt neck and nose. The sunburn was well worth it. Dad and I flew both these planes back to Brodhead back in 1996, We were gone for 16 days, flew 9 of those days and put 70 hours on them for that trip. I sure wish we could do that again, but it is not in the cards. Maybe another time, perhaps with my nephew and perhaps he could fly dads plane there along side me. Keep building y'all. These planes make for wonderful memories. I'll try to add pics now. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446382#446382 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/20150822_102959_1_824.jpg ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 07:47:12 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Weekend flying adventure From: "AircamperN11MS" Gary, Your line is not far off my actual flight path. Yes some busy airspace. This is from my Spot PLB. Opps, Attached too many times, Sorry bout that. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446392#446392 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/capture_212.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/capture_128.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/capture_442.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/capture_132.jpg ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 09:06:26 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Fuel tank progress/welding..... From: "aerocarjake" Thx for the + comments.... The tank is 41" wide and by rough calculations should hold about 21 gallons..... Want to keep the fuel system as simple as possible so one tank instead of two..... -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446394#446394 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 09:23:51 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Tools From: Ned Lebens I've found a good quality low angle block plane to be invaluable. I own one of these made by Veritas: http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=47881&cat=1,230,41182,45204,47881 Rough out your miters on the bandsaw and then take them down exactly to the line with the block plane and a simple home-made "shooting board". Same thing could be accomplished with a disk sander, but I find the plane to be more accurate and a pleasure to use (no dust, no noise, pretty quick). Works great for trimming plywood too. Plus I got to learn another skill, how to sharpen it! I also use an 18" rigid steel rule quite a bit, similar to this one: http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?PMAKA=326-1382&PMPXNO=12387664&PARTPG=INLMK32 Ned Lebens Chanhassen, MN ________________________________ Message 16 ____________________________________ Time: 09:25:12 AM PST US From: Ray Krause Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Weekend flying adventure Very nice! Where are you two headed? Ray Krause Sent from my iPad > On Aug 25, 2015, at 6:38 AM, AircamperN11MS wrote: > > > Sorry about the sizing. i don't know how to fix that. > > -------- > Scott Liefeld > Flying N11MS since March 1972 > Steel Tube > C-85-12 > Wire Wheels > Brodhead in 1996 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446384#446384 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/20150822_114804_949.jpg > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 17 ____________________________________ Time: 09:27:06 AM PST US From: goffelectric@comcast.net Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Weekend flying adventure That's a great story. Thanks for sharing and thanks for the boost to keep b uilding. =C2- Thanks, Keith Goff =C2- =C2- ----- Original Message ----- From: "AircamperN11MS" Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 9:34:20 AM Subject: Pietenpol-List: Weekend flying adventure y.org> Hi Pieters, I was finally able to get away for a full weekend of flying. I flew to San Diego's Gillespie Field on Friday evening after work. =C2-It is about 170 sm from My base Fox Field. =C2-I had a heavy tailwind all the way down t here and made the trip in a blazing 1 hour and 55 minutes. =C2-I'm sure t hat will never happen again. =C2- The purpose of this trip was to hang out with dad and do some flying with h im. =C2-He is 84 and still flies at least once a week. =C2-Saturday mor ning we hopped in our Piets and flew down to Brown Field next to the Mexica n border to hang with all the EAA chapter 14 guys and gals and do some hang ar flying. =C2-We had a great time while we were there. =C2-After lunch jumped back in the planes and loitered around San Diego county for awhile before landing back at Gillespie field. =C2- My sister brought my Nephew over to dads hangar for a visit. =C2-My Nephe w is currently taking flying lessons and now has about 7 hours time. =C2- I let him sit in my planes pilots seat where he was just completely amazed at the total lack of anything in the cockpit. =C2-He is flying Cherokees. =C2-Then he saw dads KR2 and wanted to try that on for size. =C2-He ma naged to get in but was folded up like a pretzel. =C2-He wanted to see me in the KR2 and asked me to climb into it. =C2-I have never tried before to get in it so I tried. =C2-Lets just say I don't fit and couldn't even get into it. =C2- Sunday I left to fly home and had a tailwind again. Lucky me. =C2-2 hours 10 minutes to get home. =C2-In all, I got almost 6 hours flying in over the weekend and a sun burnt neck and nose. =C2-The sunburn was well worth it. Dad and I flew both these planes back to Brodhead back in 1996, We were gon e for 16 days, flew 9 of those days and put 70 hours on them for that trip. =C2-I sure wish we could do that again, but it is not in the cards. =C2 -Maybe another time, perhaps with my nephew and perhaps he could fly dads plane there along side me. =C2- Keep building y'all. =C2-These planes make for wonderful memories. I'll try to add pics now. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446382#446382 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/20150822_102959_1_824.jpg =========== =========== MS - =========== e - =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2- =C2--Matt Dralle, List Admin. =========== ________________________________ Message 18 ____________________________________ Time: 09:34:45 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Weekend flying adventure From: "AircamperN11MS" Ray, It was just a weekend trip for me to get some flying in with my dad. I don't get to do that with him too often. Cheers, -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446398#446398 ________________________________ Message 19 ____________________________________ Time: 11:32:01 AM PST US From: Ray Krause Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Weekend flying adventure Scott, Great to be able to share that with your Dad! Does he have a Piet, too? Ray Sent from my iPad > On Aug 25, 2015, at 9:34 AM, AircamperN11MS wrote: > > > Ray, > > It was just a weekend trip for me to get some flying in with my dad. I don't get to do that with him too often. > > Cheers, > > -------- > Scott Liefeld > Flying N11MS since March 1972 > Steel Tube > C-85-12 > Wire Wheels > Brodhead in 1996 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446398#446398 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 20 ____________________________________ Time: 11:42:02 AM PST US From: Ray Krause Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Weekend flying adventure Scott, My grandson is 17 and will take his PPL check ride in a couple weeks, he's a lot better pilot than I am. I hope to get my SkyScout flying soon so we can take some trips together. We have a 1946 7AC Champ and my Waiex, so some flying together might be possible. Maybe I will have to build another plane, AirCamper, so we can toodle around together. Maybe I could have it done before I'm too old to fly! Ray Sent from my iPad > On Aug 25, 2015, at 7:30 AM, Gary Boothe wrote: > > That's quite a flight, Scott, through some busy airspace! Hat's off to > you...again! > > Gary Boothe > NX308MB > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > AircamperN11MS > Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 6:34 AM > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Weekend flying adventure > > --> > > Hi Pieters, > > I was finally able to get away for a full weekend of flying. I flew to San > Diego's Gillespie Field on Friday evening after work. It is about 170 sm > from My base Fox Field. I had a heavy tailwind all the way down there and > made the trip in a blazing 1 hour and 55 minutes. I'm sure that will never > happen again. > > The purpose of this trip was to hang out with dad and do some flying with > him. He is 84 and still flies at least once a week. Saturday morning we > hopped in our Piets and flew down to Brown Field next to the Mexican border > to hang with all the EAA chapter 14 guys and gals and do some hangar flying. > We had a great time while we were there. After lunch jumped back in the > planes and loitered around San Diego county for awhile before landing back > at Gillespie field. > > My sister brought my Nephew over to dads hangar for a visit. My Nephew is > currently taking flying lessons and now has about 7 hours time. I let him > sit in my planes pilots seat where he was just completely amazed at the > total lack of anything in the cockpit. He is flying Cherokees. Then he saw > dads KR2 and wanted to try that on for size. He managed to get in but was > folded up like a pretzel. He wanted to see me in the KR2 and asked me to > climb into it. I have never tried before to get in it so I tried. Lets > just say I don't fit and couldn't even get into it. > > Sunday I left to fly home and had a tailwind again. Lucky me. 2 hours 10 > minutes to get home. In all, I got almost 6 hours flying in over the > weekend and a sun burnt neck and nose. The sunburn was well worth it. > > Dad and I flew both these planes back to Brodhead back in 1996, We were gone > for 16 days, flew 9 of those days and put 70 hours on them for that trip. I > sure wish we could do that again, but it is not in the cards. Maybe another > time, perhaps with my nephew and perhaps he could fly dads plane there along > side me. > > Keep building y'all. These planes make for wonderful memories. > > I'll try to add pics now. > > -------- > Scott Liefeld > Flying N11MS since March 1972 > Steel Tube > C-85-12 > Wire Wheels > Brodhead in 1996 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446382#446382 > > > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/20150822_102959_1_824.jpg > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 21 ____________________________________ Time: 11:50:47 AM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Weekend flying adventure Hi Scott, Nice picture of the Piets and your dads KR. I would love to have had that kind of experience flying with my dad. Neat memories. Jim B. ________________________________ Message 22 ____________________________________ Time: 11:50:50 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Weekend flying adventure From: "AircamperN11MS" Ray, The blue Piet/GN1 is my dads. Mine is the green one. I do hope you have the opportunity to fly with you grandson. It makes for great memories. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446405#446405 ________________________________ Message 23 ____________________________________ Time: 11:56:57 AM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Weekend flying adventure Hi Scott; your dad is KR sized just like mine was. They could have flown together. Cheers, Jim B. ________________________________ Message 24 ____________________________________ Time: 12:03:40 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Weekend flying adventure From: "AircamperN11MS" Jim, You're right. He weighs in at about 145. Me? I'm not telling. :) -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446408#446408 ________________________________ Message 25 ____________________________________ Time: 01:08:32 PM PST US From: Oscar Zuniga Subject: Pietenpol-List: Alternative Engine Round-Up Low 'n' Slow fliers- The annual Contact! Magazine Alternative Engine Roundup is coming up. Inf ormation=2C photos=2C a forum schedule=2C and airport information here: http://www.contactmagazine.com/roundup.html It's at the French Valley Airpo rt=2C near Temecula CA=2C on September 26. I believe there is at least one Piet based there. Oscar ZunigaMedford=2C ORAir Camper NX41CC ________________________________ Message 26 ____________________________________ Time: 01:17:57 PM PST US From: woodflier Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Alternative Engine Round-Up I'd like to see that but a bit far from VA in a Piet. Matt Paxton -----Original Message----- From: Oscar Zuniga Sent: Tue, Aug 25, 2015 4:08 pm Subject: Pietenpol-List: Alternative Engine Round-Up Low 'n' Slow fliers- The annual Contact! Magazine Alternative Engine Roundup is coming up. Information, photos, a forum schedule, and airport information here: http://www.contactmagazine.com/roundup.html It's at the French Valley Airport, near Temecula CA, on September 26. I believe there is at least one Piet based there. Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC ________________________________ Message 27 ____________________________________ Time: 02:00:00 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Alternative Engine Round-Up From: "AircamperN11MS" Oscar, This is the Corvair powered Piet at French valley. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446413#446413 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/fvpietimg_0421_274.jpg ________________________________ Message 28 ____________________________________ Time: 04:45:23 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Weekend flying adventure From: "Charles N. Campbell" You don't get too old to fly! Just ask me. I'm 91 and looking forward to flying my Piet soon. Chuck On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Ray Krause wrote: > raykrause@frontiernet.net> > > Scott, > > My grandson is 17 and will take his PPL check ride in a couple weeks, he's > a lot better pilot than I am. I hope to get my SkyScout flying soon so we > can take some trips together. We have a 1946 7AC Champ and my Waiex, so > some flying together might be possible. Maybe I will have to build another > plane, AirCamper, so we can toodle around together. Maybe I could have it > done before I'm too old to fly! > > Ray > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Aug 25, 2015, at 7:30 AM, Gary Boothe wrote: > > > > That's quite a flight, Scott, through some busy airspace! Hat's off to > > you...again! > > > > Gary Boothe > > NX308MB > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of > > AircamperN11MS > > Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 6:34 AM > > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com > > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Weekend flying adventure > > > > --> > > > > Hi Pieters, > > > > I was finally able to get away for a full weekend of flying. I flew to > San > > Diego's Gillespie Field on Friday evening after work. It is about 170 sm > > from My base Fox Field. I had a heavy tailwind all the way down there > and > > made the trip in a blazing 1 hour and 55 minutes. I'm sure that will > never > > happen again. > > > > The purpose of this trip was to hang out with dad and do some flying with > > him. He is 84 and still flies at least once a week. Saturday morning we > > hopped in our Piets and flew down to Brown Field next to the Mexican > border > > to hang with all the EAA chapter 14 guys and gals and do some hangar > flying. > > We had a great time while we were there. After lunch jumped back in the > > planes and loitered around San Diego county for awhile before landing > back > > at Gillespie field. > > > > My sister brought my Nephew over to dads hangar for a visit. My Nephew > is > > currently taking flying lessons and now has about 7 hours time. I let > him > > sit in my planes pilots seat where he was just completely amazed at the > > total lack of anything in the cockpit. He is flying Cherokees. Then he > saw > > dads KR2 and wanted to try that on for size. He managed to get in but > was > > folded up like a pretzel. He wanted to see me in the KR2 and asked me to > > climb into it. I have never tried before to get in it so I tried. Lets > > just say I don't fit and couldn't even get into it. > > > > Sunday I left to fly home and had a tailwind again. Lucky me. 2 hours 10 > > minutes to get home. In all, I got almost 6 hours flying in over the > > weekend and a sun burnt neck and nose. The sunburn was well worth it. > > > > Dad and I flew both these planes back to Brodhead back in 1996, We were > gone > > for 16 days, flew 9 of those days and put 70 hours on them for that > trip. I > > sure wish we could do that again, but it is not in the cards. Maybe > another > > time, perhaps with my nephew and perhaps he could fly dads plane there > along > > side me. > > > > Keep building y'all. These planes make for wonderful memories. > > > > I'll try to add pics now. > > > > -------- > > Scott Liefeld > > Flying N11MS since March 1972 > > Steel Tube > > C-85-12 > > Wire Wheels > > Brodhead in 1996 > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446382#446382 > > > > > > > > > > Attachments: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/20150822_102959_1_824.jpg > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 29 ____________________________________ Time: 07:33:40 PM PST US From: Ray Krause Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Weekend flying adventure Charles, Thanks for the encouragement! I hope to go as long as I can. I'm sure if I k eep building I will keep flying. Especially if my grandson maintains his int erest. In one month he heads to Seattle to start studying engineering. He th en plans to go back to school and become a professional pilot! I sure hope t hat works out. His instructor is a young man (31) who flies A320s for Virgin Atlantic. He's a really great guy and has been a great influence on our ent ire family, especially my grandson, Cai. Keep flying, I will make you my model! Thanks, Ray Krause Sent from my iPad > On Aug 25, 2015, at 4:44 PM, Charles N. Campbell wrote: > > You don't get too old to fly! Just ask me. I'm 91 and looking forward to flying my Piet soon. Chuck > >> On Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Ray Krause w rote: et> >> >> Scott, >> >> My grandson is 17 and will take his PPL check ride in a couple weeks, he' s a lot better pilot than I am. I hope to get my SkyScout flying soon so we c an take some trips together. We have a 1946 7AC Champ and my Waiex, so some f lying together might be possible. Maybe I will have to build another plane, A irCamper, so we can toodle around together. Maybe I could have it done befor e I'm too old to fly! >> >> Ray >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> > On Aug 25, 2015, at 7:30 AM, Gary Boothe wrote: >> > >> > That's quite a flight, Scott, through some busy airspace! Hat's off to >> > you...again! >> > >> > Gary Boothe >> > NX308MB >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com >> > [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of >> > AircamperN11MS >> > Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 6:34 AM >> > To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com >> > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Weekend flying adventure >> > >> > --> >> > >> > Hi Pieters, >> > >> > I was finally able to get away for a full weekend of flying. I flew to S an >> > Diego's Gillespie Field on Friday evening after work. It is about 170 s m >> > from My base Fox Field. I had a heavy tailwind all the way down there a nd >> > made the trip in a blazing 1 hour and 55 minutes. I'm sure that will n ever >> > happen again. >> > >> > The purpose of this trip was to hang out with dad and do some flying wi th >> > him. He is 84 and still flies at least once a week. Saturday morning w e >> > hopped in our Piets and flew down to Brown Field next to the Mexican bo rder >> > to hang with all the EAA chapter 14 guys and gals and do some hangar fl ying. >> > We had a great time while we were there. After lunch jumped back in th e >> > planes and loitered around San Diego county for awhile before landing b ack >> > at Gillespie field. >> > >> > My sister brought my Nephew over to dads hangar for a visit. My Nephew is >> > currently taking flying lessons and now has about 7 hours time. I let h im >> > sit in my planes pilots seat where he was just completely amazed at the >> > total lack of anything in the cockpit. He is flying Cherokees. Then h e saw >> > dads KR2 and wanted to try that on for size. He managed to get in but w as >> > folded up like a pretzel. He wanted to see me in the KR2 and asked me t o >> > climb into it. I have never tried before to get in it so I tried. Let s >> > just say I don't fit and couldn't even get into it. >> > >> > Sunday I left to fly home and had a tailwind again. Lucky me. 2 hours 1 0 >> > minutes to get home. In all, I got almost 6 hours flying in over the >> > weekend and a sun burnt neck and nose. The sunburn was well worth it. >> > >> > Dad and I flew both these planes back to Brodhead back in 1996, We were gone >> > for 16 days, flew 9 of those days and put 70 hours on them for that tri p. I >> > sure wish we could do that again, but it is not in the cards. Maybe an other >> > time, perhaps with my nephew and perhaps he could fly dads plane there a long >> > side me. >> > >> > Keep building y'all. These planes make for wonderful memories. >> > >> > I'll try to add pics now. >> > >> > -------- >> > Scott Liefeld >> > Flying N11MS since March 1972 >> > Steel Tube >> > C-85-12 >> > Wire Wheels >> > Brodhead in 1996 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Read this topic online here: >> > >> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446382#446382 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Attachments: >> > >> > http://forums.matronics.com//files/20150822_102959_1_824.jpg >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> ========== >> br> enpol-List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics .com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >> ========== >> FORUMS - >> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> b Site - >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contributio n >> ========== > > > 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D 3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3 D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > ________________________________ Message 30 ____________________________________ Time: 11:21:46 PM PST US From: "Clif Dawson" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Tools Now you need these! I have been using the 800, 1200 and 8000 for many years. They cut fast and you don't want to even glance at the edge left by the 8000. It will cut your eye! :-) http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=67177&cat=1,43072,67175 And this little thing to slurry the 8000 before using it. http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=51961&cat=1,43072,67174& ap=1 The sharpenning box is full of water. When not in use the 800 and 1200 are submerged in the water, not the 8000. I dip the top of that in the water then rub the nagara over it to raise a slurry. Make sure you mirror finish the flat side of plane and chisel blades before working on the bevel side. Remember, the sharper the blade, the safer it is. Clif Working on wood wing struts. "If I have eight hours to chop down a tree, I will spend the first six sharpening my axe." ----- Original Message ----- From: Ned Lebens To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com Sent: Tuesday, August 25, 2015 9:23 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Tools I've found a good quality low angle block plane to be invaluable. I own one of these made by Veritas: http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=47881&cat=1,230,41182,45 204,47881 Rough out your miters on the bandsaw and then take them down exactly to the line with the block plane and a simple home-made "shooting board". Same thing could be accomplished with a disk sander, but I find the plane to be more accurate and a pleasure to use (no dust, no noise, pretty quick). Works great for trimming plywood too. Plus I got to learn another skill, how to sharpen it! I also use an 18" rigid steel rule quite a bit, similar to this one: http://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?PMAKA=326-1382&PMPXNO=12387664&PAR TPG=INLMK32 Ned Lebens Chanhassen, MN No virus found in this message. 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