---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 08/31/15: 13 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:33 AM - new threads (Douwe Blumberg) 2. 08:42 AM - Re: new threads (Dan Yocum) 3. 10:22 AM - Re: Would This Corvair Work? (dgaldrich) 4. 12:02 PM - Lambert / Warner Piets (FritzW) 5. 12:26 PM - Re: new threads (echobravo4) 6. 12:51 PM - Re: Lambert / Warner Piets (Jeff Boatright) 7. 01:21 PM - Re: Re: Lambert / Warner Piets (Steven Dortch) 8. 01:29 PM - Re: Re: Lambert / Warner Piets (woodflier) 9. 05:26 PM - Re: Re: Tools (Mike Salerno) 10. 05:27 PM - Re: Re: Tools (Mike Salerno) 11. 05:30 PM - Re: Lambert / Warner Piets (FritzW) 12. 05:56 PM - Re: Re: Lambert / Warner Piets (Steven Dortch) 13. 10:01 PM - Re: Lambert / Warner Piets (FritzW) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:33:26 AM PST US From: "Douwe Blumberg" Subject: Pietenpol-List: new threads Hey Dan, I am always afraid if I push "reply" that everyone will have to read every single post. Is that not the case? Douwe ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 08:42:00 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: new threads From: Dan Yocum Depends on how you have your mail client set up - if it is set to automatically include the previous emails as a quotation, then yes, people will have some sort of reference to discern what you're talking about. That's not preventing you from selecting the text you do NOT want to send and hitting the 'Delete' key. For instance, I've left everything quoted from your last email below EXCEPT that I selected the standard footer and deleted it. On 08/31/2015 06:35 AM, Douwe Blumberg wrote: > Hey Dan, > > > > I am always afraid if I push reply that everyone will have to read > every single post. Is that not the case? > > > > Douwe > -- Dan Yocum yocum137@gmail.com ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:22:47 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Would This Corvair Work? From: "dgaldrich" What you MAY have there is a good core and probably not worth much more than core price (maybe $200 US +/-). Essentially, you'll have to completely disassemble the engine to make sure you have a usable crank, heads and block and then start over completely rebuilding to aircraft standards. William Wynne's site has the part numbers for the usable stuff and if any of the major components aren't on the "list", then the value drops significantly. The stuff like generator, starter, shrouding, and so on may have value. The prop hub and engine mount are really questionable and likely not usable. See previous replies for specifics on individual components. Dave Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446623#446623 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 12:02:06 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Lambert / Warner Piets From: "FritzW" Hi All, Just checking in with the group. Last Saturday me and a couple of friends were half joking about building 3 Pietenpols. We have access to 2 90hp Lamberts and a Warner. The idea is still in the "Hangar B.S.ing" stage and all of us have airplane projects to finish first, but I started looking around the internet this morning to see what was happening in the Pietenpol world. I'm encouraged by how much Pietenpol info is out there! I just ordered a set of Air Camper and Sky Scout plans. I'll wait until they show up before I start asking a bunch of new guy questions. Fritz -------- Isous Christos, Theou Yios, Str Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446626#446626 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:26:49 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: new threads From: "echobravo4" And if you are viewing the forum in a browser- The little page icon next to the posters name in the "last post" column will take you right to the last post -------- Earl Brown I may not have gone where I intended to go, but I think I have ended up where I intended to be. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446628#446628 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 12:51:52 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Lambert / Warner Piets From: "Jeff Boatright" I got a ride in the Aircamper that Dick Weeden powered with a Lambert (I think it was a Lambert). That was a very sweet ride! I think it is the best combination of power, nostalgia, and reliability (?) there is for the Piet. The Model A is the prototypical Piet engine, but that moderate-sized radial was just what the airframe needed. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446631#446631 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:21:16 PM PST US From: Steven Dortch Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Lambert / Warner Piets Those old radials will never work or look right! They have never made good airplane engines. You can contact me offlist for my address. I will dispose of them for you. They need to be crated properly and shipping paid in full. I am doing this for your protection. Blue Skies, Steve D. A-65 PietenGrega 95% done and stuck there. On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 2:51 PM, Jeff Boatright wrote: > jeffboatright@emory.edu> > > I got a ride in the Aircamper that Dick Weeden powered with a Lambert (I > think it was a Lambert). That was a very sweet ride! I think it is the best > combination of power, nostalgia, and reliability (?) there is for the Piet. > The Model A is the prototypical Piet engine, but that moderate-sized radial > was just what the airframe needed. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446631#446631 > > -- Blue Skies, Steve D ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 01:29:59 PM PST US From: woodflier Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Lambert / Warner Piets Right, Steve, and my Piet cruises at 150 mph. Matt Paxton -----Original Message----- From: Steven Dortch Sent: Mon, Aug 31, 2015 4:21 pm Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Lambert / Warner Piets Those old radials will never work or look right! They have never made good airplane engines. You can contact me offlist for my address. I will dispose of them for you. They need to be crated properly and shipping paid in full. I am doing this for your protection. Blue Skies, Steve D. A-65 PietenGrega 95% done and stuck there. On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 2:51 PM, Jeff Boatright wrote: I got a ride in the Aircamper that Dick Weeden powered with a Lambert (I think it was a Lambert). That was a very sweet ride! I think it is the best combination of power, nostalgia, and reliability (?) there is for the Piet. The Model A is the prototypical Piet engine, but that moderate-sized radial was just what the airframe needed. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446631#446631 =========== br> enpol-List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List =========== FORUMS - eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com =========== b Site - -Matt Dralle, List Admin. rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution =========== -- Blue Skies, Steve D ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 05:26:34 PM PST US From: Mike Salerno Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Tools Thanks for the heads up on the sharpening stones. Didn't realize I would be needing something like that. One piece at a time...=0A=0A=0APardon, but yo ur message got overlooked amongst the others from the list.=0A=0A=0AMike=0A =0ASent from Yahoo Mail on Android=0A=0AFrom:"Clif Dawson" =0ADate:Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 1:42 AM=0ASubject:Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Tools=0A=0ANow you need these! I have been using the 800, 1200=0A=0Aand 80 00 for many years. They cut fast and you don't=0A=0Awant to even glance at the edge left by the 8000. It=0A=0Awill cut your eye! :-)=0A=0Ahttp://www.l eevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=67177&cat=1,43072,67175=0A=0AAnd this little thing to slurry the 8000 before using it.=0A=0Ahttp://www.leevalley. com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=51961&cat=1,43072,67174&ap=1=0A=0A-=0A=0ATh e sharpenning box is full of water. When not in use=0A=0Athe 800 and 1200 a re submerged in the water, not=0A=0Athe 8000. I dip the top of that in the water then rub=0A=0Athe nagara over it to raise a slurry.=0A=0AMake sure yo u mirror finish the flat side of plane=0A=0Aand chisel blades before workin g on the bevel side.=0A=0A-=0A=0ARemember, the sharper the blade, the saf er it is.=0A=0A-=0A=0AClif=0A=0AWorking on wood wing struts.=0A=0A-=0A =0A"If I have eight hours to chop down a tree, I will spend=0A=0Athe first six sharpening my axe."=0A=0A----- Original Message ----- =0A=0AFrom: Ned L ebens =0A=0ATo: pietenpol-list@matronics.com =0A=0ASent: Tuesday, August 25 , 2015 9:23 AM=0A=0ASubject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Tools=0A=0A=0AI've fou nd a good quality low angle block plane to be invaluable.- I own one of t hese made by Veritas: =0A=0A=0Ahttp://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p =47881&cat=1,230,41182,45204,47881=0A=0A=0ARough out your miters on the bandsaw and then take them down exactly to the line with the block plane a nd a simple home-made "shooting board".- Same thing could be accomplished with a disk sander, but I find the plane to be more accurate and a pleasur e to use (no dust, no noise, pretty quick).- Works great for trimming ply wood too.- Plus I got to learn another skill, how to sharpen it!=0A=0A=0A I also use an 18" rigid steel rule quite a bit, similar to this one:=0A=0A =0Ahttp://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?PMAKA=326-1382&PMPXNO=12387664&PA RTPG=INLMK32=0A=0A=0ANed Lebens=0A=0AChanhassen, MN=0A=0Ahref="http://w ww.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigat or?Pietenpol-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matron ics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics .com/c =0A=0ANo virus found in this message.=0AChecked by AVG - www.avg.com 15=0A=0A ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 05:27:42 PM PST US From: Mike Salerno Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Tools Thanks for the advice Ned. Looks like a nice piece of equipment.=0A=0A=0AMi ke=0A=0ASent from Yahoo Mail on Android=0A=0AFrom:"Ned Lebens" =0ADate:Tue, Aug 25, 2015 at 11:37 AM=0ASubject:Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Tools=0A=0AI've found a good quality low angle block plane to be invalu able.- I own one of these made by Veritas:=0A=0A=0Ahttp://www.leevalley.c om/US/wood/page.aspx?p=47881&cat=1,230,41182,45204,47881=0A=0A=0ARough out your miters on the bandsaw and then take them down exactly to the line with the block plane and a simple home-made "shooting board".- Same thing could be accomplished with a disk sander, but I find the plane to be more accurate and a pleasure to use (no dust, no noise, pretty quick).- Works great for trimming plywood too.- Plus I got to learn another skill, how t o sharpen it!=0A=0A=0AI also use an 18" rigid steel rule quite a bit, simil ar to this one:=0A=0A=0Ahttp://www.use-enco.com/CGI/INSRIT?PMAKA=326-1382 &PMPXNO=12387664&PARTPG=INLMK32=0A=0A=0ANed Lebens=0A=0AChanhassen, MN ====== =0A=0A ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 05:30:29 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Lambert / Warner Piets From: "FritzW" steven.d.dortch(at)gmail. wrote: > ...I will dispose of them for you. steven.d.dortch(at)gmail. wrote: > ...I am doing this for your protection. Not a lot of people would be willing to make that sacrifice, your a real stand up guy. [Laughing] -------- Isous Christos, Theou Yios, Str Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446643#446643 ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 05:56:28 PM PST US From: Steven Dortch Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: Lambert / Warner Piets Dear FritzW, It is the least I could do. Actually you should build the planes, mount the engines and cover the planes and then deliver them. Or better yet, for a small fee I will come and fly them to my hangar. Don't paint them, I would not want you to waste your time, besides I like to personalize my planes. LOL Welcome to the list. Laugh, be thick skinned and learn, no matter what you decide to build. There are some smart people on this list (me not included) Those radials would look great on a Piet and should provide good performance. Blue Skies, Steve D On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 7:30 PM, FritzW wrote: > > > steven.d.dortch(at)gmail. wrote: > > ...I will dispose of them for you. > > > steven.d.dortch(at)gmail. wrote: > > ...I am doing this for your protection. > > > Not a lot of people would be willing to make that sacrifice, your a real > stand up guy. [Laughing] > > -------- > I=C4=93sous Christos, Theou Yios, S=C5=8Dt=C4=93r > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446643#446643 > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > -- Blue Skies, Steve D ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 10:01:08 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Lambert / Warner Piets From: "FritzW" steven.d.dortch(at)gmail. wrote: > ... Laugh, be thick skinned and learn Sounds like my kind of group! I got an email back from Andrew Pietenpol as soon as I placed the order (a good sign) saying he'd get the plans in the mail tomorrow. I hope to get them by Friday. I've been lusting over the Piet's for a long time (3 or 4 decades) but other airplanes always seem to move to the front burner. ...I can really see me in a Lambert powered Sky Scout piddling around the patch :) -------- Isous Christos, Theou Yios, Str Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446648#446648 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.