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Fri 09/04/15


Total Messages Posted: 7



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     1. 05:09 AM - Re: video of a VW powered Pietenpol ground run (MyrickPiet)
     2. 05:41 AM - Re: video of a VW powered Pietenpol ground run (tkreiner)
     3. 06:20 AM - Re: flight planning kneeboard charts (j_dunavin)
     4. 07:22 AM - Re: Re: Ford Engine weights (Steven Dortch)
     5. 08:01 AM - Re: Ford Engine weights (AircamperN11MS)
     6. 08:31 AM - Re: Re: Ford Engine weights (Steven Dortch)
     7. 08:43 AM - Re: Ford Engine weights (AircamperN11MS)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:09:05 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: video of a VW powered Pietenpol ground run
    From: "MyrickPiet" <N762sierra@gmail.com>
    Did you notice he did not have it tied down and used only small chocks, AND it was pointed INTO the hanger. Then he increased power enough to worry another bystander to come over and perhaps hold on to it. Theres many tales of run-a-way planes. Take care all. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446783#446783


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    Time: 05:41:43 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: video of a VW powered Pietenpol ground run
    From: "tkreiner" <tkreiner@gmail.com>
    After having rebuilt several hundred VW engines while putting myself thru engineering school, I have a few observations. The engine is identified as a 2000cc VW on the video banner, which implies it's a modified Type I, or 1600 cc with a big bore kit. Whoever built the engine used single port cylinder heads rather than the later dual port heads. For both torque and horsepower, this was unfortunate, as the engine just cant breathe as it would with dual port heads. The latest 1600 engines had an enlarged exhaust valve stem and a slightly improved port. These combined to improve reliability - paramount in an aircraft engine - be eliminating the dropped valve experience (broken exhaust valve, crashing piston and your day....). Mike: where did you find it, and can you determine what became of it? -------- Tom Kreiner Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446785#446785


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    Time: 06:20:59 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: flight planning kneeboard charts
    From: "j_dunavin" <j_dunavin@hotmail.com>
    although it's not for official use, you could use https://skyvector.com/ and then print and cut it down to size. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446786#446786


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    Time: 07:22:52 AM PST US
    From: Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Ford Engine weights
    A good place to read about engines is at this link on the fly baby site. http://www.bowersflybaby.com/index.html#engines <http://www.bowersflybaby.com/tech/fenton.htm#crankcase_sealing_and_breathe r> There is also a link to a lot of info on small continentals. Blue Skies, Steve D. On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 4:44 PM, FritzW <fwagoner@zianet.com> wrote: > > I've been reminded about thick skins and bad apples and how valuable this > forum is as a resource for Pietenpol information. > > ...dan yocum, > The only question I asked was how much Ford motors weigh so I could start > thinking about CG issues if I use a Lambert (a time honored Pietenpol > engine option). The only keyboard diarrhea I see is coming from you. > > ...what a buzz-kill > > -------- > I=C4=93sous Christos, Theou Yios, S=C5=8Dt=C4=93r > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446758#446758 > > =========== =========== =========== =========== > > -- Blue Skies, Steve D


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    Time: 08:01:04 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Ford Engine weights
    From: "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>
    Fritz, I got the chance to fly the Model T powered Scout the Bernie built. Chris Essgard owned it back then and he had perform the rebuild of it. When Chris rebuilt it he replaced a lot of steel engine parts with aluminum parts. This made for a tail heavy plane. I flew it that way. It didn't fly very well being so tail heavy and only 20 HP. That said. I also got to flt the A powered scout that Bernie built. The CG was correct and had more than twice the HP. That airplane was an absolute ball to fly. It was like a little sports car. So be careful when trying to make it too light. Light usually comes at some cost. I like having the extra HP, even if it means a couple of extra pounds. I know that where you live you can have some higher Density Alt. The extra HP would help you there as well. My three cents, -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446789#446789


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    Time: 08:31:12 AM PST US
    From: Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Ford Engine weights
    Scott, I am a self trained expert on losing weight. On my 1948 Vtail Bonanza I have shed almost 100 pounds. I pulled old wires, an old vacuum autopilot, scraped and cleaned caked oil and sludge out of the belly, pulled old Avionics, replaced too thick floorboards with correct thickness, Pulled out the thick carpet and put in thin and lightweight airliner "vinyl" flooring, and replaced long screws with short ones. I also threw the joker out of the deck of cards, You never use it. In my Pietenpol rebuild, I have tried to make everything good enough and as light as is reasonable. During the rebuild I was a demon on anything behind the rear cockpit. on the Engine, I did not worry as much. Piets have a tail heavy reputation that I understand is well deserved. One tool I have to adjust weight and balance is the lawnmower battery (about 7 pounds). It is a total loss system, I have to charge it on the ground. It is to power my radio, intercom, and handheld GPS (and anything that can be plugged into a cigarette lighter.) I put it inside the front instrument panel as far forward as possible. If the CG is Good then it stays, If I find it tail heavy, I can move it about 5 inches forward on the front side of the firewall. If it is nose heavy, I can move it to the Pilot instrument panel or even behind the pilot seat. I also have a center section wing tank and a Piper cub style tank. The wing tank is in the center of the CG. the Cub tank is in front of the Passenger. It can also be used for ballast adjustment, but if used will change the CG in flight. Here's to hoping I don't have a CG problem. I have yet to do a new weight and balance. Blue Skies, Steve D On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 10:00 AM, AircamperN11MS <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org> wrote: > Scott.liefeld@lacity.org> > > Fritz, > > I got the chance to fly the Model T powered Scout the Bernie built. Chris > Essgard owned it back then and he had perform the rebuild of it. When > Chris rebuilt it he replaced a lot of steel engine parts with aluminum > parts. This made for a tail heavy plane. I flew it that way. It didn't > fly very well being so tail heavy and only 20 HP. That said. I also got > to flt the A powered scout that Bernie built. The CG was correct and had > more than twice the HP. That airplane was an absolute ball to fly. It was > like a little sports car. So be careful when trying to make it too light. > Light usually comes at some cost. I like having the extra HP, even if it > means a couple of extra pounds. I know that where you live you can have > some higher Density Alt. The extra HP would help you there as well. > > My three cents, > > -------- > Scott Liefeld > Flying N11MS since March 1972 > Steel Tube > C-85-12 > Wire Wheels > Brodhead in 1996 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446789#446789 > > -- Blue Skies, Steve D


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    Time: 08:43:53 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Ford Engine weights
    From: "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>
    Steve, I sounds like you are doing all the right things. I too have a fuel system as described by you. I have 10 in the nose and 12.5 in the center section. I only use the CC tank when I am on cross country flights. It's nice to have the extra fuel. Good luck with your W&B. Congratulations on the Bonanza weight loss. Cheers, -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446792#446792




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