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1. 08:27 AM - Re: Ford Engine weights (FritzW)
2. 09:03 AM - Re: Re: Ford Engine weights (Steven Dortch)
3. 12:00 PM - What's up Doc? (Donald A Mosher)
4. 01:31 PM - Re: Ford Engine weights (FritzW)
5. 02:17 PM - Re: Re: Ford Engine weights (Steven Dortch)
6. 05:25 PM - Lamberts for a Piet (FritzW)
7. 05:50 PM - OT Pancho Barnes movie (Steven Dortch)
8. 06:00 PM - Re: OT Pancho Barnes movie (jim hyde)
9. 07:43 PM - Re: Lamberts for a Piet (AircamperN11MS)
10. 08:04 PM - Re: What's up Doc? (AircamperN11MS)
11. 08:19 PM - Re: Lamberts for a Piet (FritzW)
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Subject: | Re: Ford Engine weights |
My plans showed up last night! (Aircamper with supplement and 3 pice wing and the
Sky Scout plans). Hopefully we can weigh the Lambert and the Warner today to
see where were at.
Like Scott mentioned I fly out of a pretty high altitude field that gets very hot
in the summer, 9,000' density altitude is pretty common. So keeping it light
is important.
...and before I get a bunch of flack for committing the heresy of looking for opportunities
to shed a few pounds on my high DA Pietenpol. I'm not a complete
neophyte. If I build this airplane, It'll be my 6th homebuilt (two in the hangar,
one just on the gear, one one the building table and one still on the drawing
board)
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Isous Christos, Theou Yios, Str
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Subject: | Re: Ford Engine weights |
Fritz, Have you thought about fabrics? My plane was covered before I bought
it. . but on every patch, and when I recovered the horizontal Stab, after
some repairs. , I used a Dacron fabric that is "uncertified" and is 1.8oz.
Not much weight savings, but every gram counts.
I would look at Oratex precolored fabrics. Light and you save on painting.
Regarding altitude compensation. I remember at least one builder added a
couple of feet to his wings. Nothing radical, but I think a foot or so on
each wing.
Also, I was almost executed for saying this on another list, but I don't
learn. What about a nitrous Oxide system to compensate for density
altitude? Not enough to blow a jug, but enough to make the engine think it
is at sea level.
Ducking and running.
Steve D
On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 10:27 AM, FritzW <fwagoner@zianet.com> wrote:
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> My plans showed up last night! (Aircamper with supplement and 3 pice wing
> and the Sky Scout plans). Hopefully we can weigh the Lambert and the Warn
er
> today to see where were at.
>
> Like Scott mentioned I fly out of a pretty high altitude field that gets
> very hot in the summer, 9,000' density altitude is pretty common. So
> keeping it light is important.
>
> ...and before I get a bunch of flack for committing the heresy of looking
> for opportunities to shed a few pounds on my high DA Pietenpol. I'm not a
> complete neophyte. If I build this airplane, It'll be my 6th homebuilt (t
wo
> in the hangar, one just on the gear, one one the building table and one
> still on the drawing board)
>
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> I=C4=93sous Christos, Theou Yios, S=C5=8Dt=C4=93r
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446823#446823
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Steve D
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In response to some =9CWhat=99s up with Doc?=9D inquiries
- No, I have not left
the premises. After being publisher of the Brodhead Pietenpol Association
newsletter for over six years (Dee and I), I had some catching up to do on
other tasks. I lurked a bit on the Matronics list (and liked it.)
Casting about to see how I might be of service to the Piet community, I
decided to supply Air Camper plans and also updates and enhancements that I
have cataloged. Although Don Pietenpol was an inspiration to all of us, I
feel that with modern print facilities, I can supply complete plans
including the necessary updates at a practical price.
Except for the BPA newsletters, there has never really been a single source
for information on updates as they came along over the years. I am
cataloging all those thirty-some years of contemporary and pertinent
information from builders and owners who came up with good (and maybe not
so good) updates and enhancements. In addition I have archived a roomful
of Piet history (airplanes, people, plans) that I am assembling.
Check in to my slowly emerging website for particulars. I expect that I
will be on Matt=99s wonderful Matronics website from time to time. I
also
welcome any personal messages from old friends. Like the Air Camper, I
=99m
=9Cstill going after all these years.=9D
This note is not intended to sell anything, only to let people know where I
am and what I am doing in the fascinating and intriguing Piet community.
Doc Mosher
Website*: pietenpolplansplus.com <http://pietenpolplansplus.com> *
(Pietenpol Plans Plus)
E-Mail: *thepietshop.com <http://thepietshop.com> * (The Piet Shop)
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Subject: | Re: Ford Engine weights |
I think I'd go with 2.8 oz. just because it'll stand up better to rock dings and
hangar rash. Most of the fun places to fly around here have dirt strips. And
Oratex is nice but it ain't cheap.
I don't know about nitrous oxide on an 80 year old engine. It would be like putting
a miniskirt on your grandma. Even if it fit it would still be wrong. ;)
I took some pictures of the engine candidates today, I'll post them as soon as
I transfer them off my phone.
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Isous Christos, Theou Yios, Str
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Subject: | Re: Ford Engine weights |
Where are you flying out of?
Steve D
On Sat, Sep 5, 2015 at 3:28 PM, FritzW <fwagoner@zianet.com> wrote:
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> I think I'd go with 2.8 oz. just because it'll stand up better to rock
> dings and hangar rash. Most of the fun places to fly around here have dir
t
> strips. And Oratex is nice but it ain't cheap.
>
> I don't know about nitrous oxide on an 80 year old engine. It would be
> like putting a miniskirt on your grandma. Even if it fit it would still b
e
> wrong. ;)
>
> I took some pictures of the engine candidates today, I'll post them as
> soon as I transfer them off my phone.
>
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> I=C4=93sous Christos, Theou Yios, S=C5=8Dt=C4=93r
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>
> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446832#446832
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Steve D
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Subject: | Lamberts for a Piet |
We didn't get a chance to weigh the engines today. We're going to have to move
a bunch of stuff out of the way to make room for the scales. But I did take some
pictures.
These all belong to a friend of mine who's going to handle the engine and steel
parts for the project. I'll be the wood guy. ...I think I have the easy job ;)
*it looks like these pictures are going in reverse order, must be a matronics thing
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Isous Christos, Theou Yios, Str
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Subject: | OT Pancho Barnes movie |
I am watching the Pancho Barnes movie made in 1988. Lots of great
airplanes. mystery travelairs, Ryan STAs, and at least one D18 (Beech
content).
Awesome. I recommend it.
Blue skies
Steve D
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Subject: | Re: OT Pancho Barnes movie |
filmed at hartlee field denton, tx and pappy spinks field ft worth
On Saturday, September 5, 2015 7:56 PM, Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch
@gmail.com> wrote:
I am watching the Pancho Barnes movie made in 1988. Lots of great airplane
s. mystery travelairs, Ryan STAs,=C2- and at least one D18=C2- (Beech c
ontent).Awesome. I recommend it.Blue skies
Steve D
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Subject: | Re: Lamberts for a Piet |
Oops, sorry guys, I got drool all over these pictures.
Fritz, there is or should be a Suburu powered Piet at Socorro airport. It has been
there since the early 90's. It flies a lot. It could be worth the trip up
there just to look at it.
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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Subject: | Re: What's up Doc? |
Hi Doc.
Good to hear from you. Look through the archives for the Steel tube tail drawings.
One of the guys made some CAD drawings from my pencil drawings I provided
him. The deal is that they are not for sale. They are free to anyone who wants
to use this very proven set of tail feathers.
Go ahead and add them to your resources and supply them at no charge to anyone
who wants them. I have no problems if you charge for the materials and shipping
so it doesn't cost you anything for your efforts.
If you find them here let me know. I have them on my computer at work.
Wow, I just saw a "Burro" walking down the street.
Cheers,
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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Subject: | Re: Lamberts for a Piet |
There was one up there somewhere around Socorro that, I thought, had a Pinto engine
in it. ...maybe it was a Sube.
I'm down in Las Cruces, we consider Socorro to be southern Canada ;)
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Isous Christos, Theou Yios, Str
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