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1. 07:08 AM - Re: Re: BPA Newsletter (John Hofmann)
2. 05:22 PM - Argh! Can't Decide Between a Piet or Tiger Moth Replica (BritishJim)
3. 05:41 PM - Re: Argh! Can't Decide Between a Piet or Tiger Moth Replica (Matt Paxton)
4. 06:11 PM - Re: Argh! Can't Decide Between a Piet or Tiger Moth Replica (Scott Knowlton)
5. 06:16 PM - Re: Argh! Can't Decide Between a Piet or Tiger Moth Replica (Steven Dortch)
6. 06:51 PM - Re: Argh! Can't Decide Between a Piet or Tiger Moth Replica (Jim Boyer)
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Subject: | Re: BPA Newsletter |
Thanks Oscar,
One thing on the newsletter. I found out the printer may have marked people with
last issue by mistake. If you got a last issue red stamp and your subscription
date on the label is anything after 10/2014 it is not your last issue. I will
do everything in my power to make sure that does not happen again. On target
for the next issue to be out late this month.
Best,
-john-
John Hofmann
Vice-President, IT and Production
The Rees Group, Inc.
2424 American Lane
Madison, WI 53704
Phone: 608.443.2468 ext 150
Fax: 608.443.2474
Email: jhofmann@reesgroupinc.com
> On Sep 6, 2015, at 11:46 PM, taildrags <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote:
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> Well, I finally got around to reading my Newsletter. The red letters on the
back, by the address label, said it was my last issue and I didn't think I would
be renewing but I changed my mind. It was sure worth the $20 subscription
cost just to read the articles and see the photos. Thanks ever so much for the
story on the J-2 mishap, the aircraft maintenance tips, and everything else
in the current issue. I sure didn't think I would care to read an article about
a single-blade prop on a J-2 taking a dive into some trees, but the story is
very well written and the lessons learned are invaluable. Jack's article on
maintenance is likewise very well written and illustrated and any builder could
learn from it and apply some great ideas. Frank Pavliga's article on reinforcing
wooden landing gear is another piece that made the Newsletter worth subscribing
to. It's all good.
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> Most of all, I guess, it's just good to see more Piets. the centerfold airplane
is a beauty. If you're not a subscriber, I would encourage you to subscribe
if for nothing else but the centerfold. She has long sleek legs, a radiant
shine, trim waist, shapely in front, and if you could hear her voice she would
probably ask "why don't you come up and see me sometime?" ;o)
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Subject: | Argh! Can't Decide Between a Piet or Tiger Moth Replica |
I'm stuck in a dilemma here, if anyone can sway me.
Looking at building either a Piet or the Fisher R-80 Tiger Moth. I've never built
before...anything...and wonder if the Piet is a bit beyond my abilities. Something
attracts me about the formed/molded components in the Fisher kit.
Saying that, the final cost of a Piet will be 50% less (Fisher kit is 16k). Swings
and roundabouts, right?
Can anyone push me over either of the lines? I know it's ultimately my decision
- but I'm really stuck on this one!
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Your nose is high; you're in the sky. The other way around; you'll hit the ground....
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Subject: | Re: Argh! Can't Decide Between a Piet or Tiger Moth Replica |
I built a Piet, and I am helping guy who bought a partially completed Fisher R-80
Tiger Moth. It will be a pretty airplane when/if finished. It looks to be as
much work as the Piet, and I don't think there is the same depth of a builder
community with the R-80. You can't beat the Piet family - OK, sometimes dysfunctional,
occasionally squabbling, but ultimately a great group of people.
Matt Paxton
NX629ML
Started 1999 - First flight 2011. 228 hours total time.
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE Tablet
On Sep 7, 2015 8:21 PM, BritishJim <james@pieceofcakepr.com> wrote:
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> I'm stuck in a dilemma here, if anyone can sway me.
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> Looking at building either a Piet or the Fisher R-80 Tiger Moth. I've never built
before...anything...and wonder if the Piet is a bit beyond my abilities.
Something attracts me about the formed/molded components in the Fisher kit.
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> Saying that, the final cost of a Piet will be 50% less (Fisher kit is 16k). Swings
and roundabouts, right?
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> Can anyone push me over either of the lines? I know it's ultimately my decision
- but I'm really stuck on this one!
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> Your nose is high; you're in the sky. The other way around; you'll hit the ground....
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446871#446871
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Subject: | Re: Argh! Can't Decide Between a Piet or Tiger Moth Replica |
Jim
If you want to build a plane as quick as possible get a kit. The parts are pre-manufactured
and you are an assembler. If you love making things the Pietenpol
is simply a very long list of projects. Some of the parts you make - unless you
already have acquired building skills - you will not use and make a second
time until you or the people you have giving you guidance decide that it is an
acceptable part. For some this process brings tremendous satisfaction and fulfillment.
For others it is a very frustrating journey. Only you know what type
of person you are.
Scott Knowlton
Sent from my iPhone
> On Sep 7, 2015, at 8:25 PM, "BritishJim" <james@pieceofcakepr.com> wrote:
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> I'm stuck in a dilemma here, if anyone can sway me.
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> Looking at building either a Piet or the Fisher R-80 Tiger Moth. I've never built
before...anything...and wonder if the Piet is a bit beyond my abilities.
Something attracts me about the formed/molded components in the Fisher kit.
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> Saying that, the final cost of a Piet will be 50% less (Fisher kit is 16k). Swings
and roundabouts, right?
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> Can anyone push me over either of the lines? I know it's ultimately my decision
- but I'm really stuck on this one!
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> Your nose is high; you're in the sky. The other way around; you'll hit the ground....
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446871#446871
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Subject: | Re: Argh! Can't Decide Between a Piet or Tiger Moth Replica |
British Jim, You described your options. The Piet is plans built and
cheaper. The Fisher Tiger Moth is a Kit and more expensive.
Fisher says it only takes 600 hours to build a Tiger moth. But beware,
Manufacturers often understate the time to build. Or it is for a first time
builder who happens to be a carpenter with a full woodshop.
Many Pietenpols have been completed from plans. I have never seen a Fisher
Tiger Moth. (Of course, even more RVs have been completed from plans.)
You makes your decisions, you takes your chances. Six one way, half a dozen
the other.
Blue Skies,
Steve D
On Mon, Sep 7, 2015 at 7:21 PM, BritishJim <james@pieceofcakepr.com> wrote:
> james@pieceofcakepr.com>
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> I'm stuck in a dilemma here, if anyone can sway me.
>
> Looking at building either a Piet or the Fisher R-80 Tiger Moth. I've
> never built before...anything...and wonder if the Piet is a bit beyond my
> abilities. Something attracts me about the formed/molded components in the
> Fisher kit.
>
> Saying that, the final cost of a Piet will be 50% less (Fisher kit is
> 16k). Swings and roundabouts, right?
>
> Can anyone push me over either of the lines? I know it's ultimately my
> decision - but I'm really stuck on this one!
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> Your nose is high; you're in the sky. The other way around; you'll hit the
> ground....
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446871#446871
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--
Blue Skies,
Steve D
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Subject: | Re: Argh! Can't Decide Between a Piet or Tiger Moth Replica |
Hi there British Jim,
I don't know if you have to rib stitch the Fisher Moth replica but I just f
inished my Piet wings and having 70+ year old eyes it was a chore to rib st
itch 30 ribs; 6 every 2.5 inches (in prop blast) and 24 every 3.5 inches. I
t was a whole lot of rib stitches!Plus building all the ribs for 4 wings an
d the many cables, struts, etc. Biplanes look cool but let some work-aholic
(sp) build them.
The PIet will be a lot easier to put inand out of a hangar; fewer wings to
get hangar rash!!!
Good looking airplane though.
Cheers,
Jim B.
=C2-
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