---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 09/09/15: 10 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:35 AM - The 'Piet Builder's Bible' Project - Want In? (BritishJim) 2. 09:15 AM - Re: The 'Piet Builder's Bible' Project - Want In? (Lorenzo) 3. 10:30 AM - Re: The 'Piet Builder's Bible' Project - Want In? (tools) 4. 11:19 AM - Re: Re: The 'Piet Builder's Bible' Project - Want In? (Steven Dortch) 5. 03:07 PM - Re: The quiet after a good day in the shop..... (FritzW) 6. 04:23 PM - Re: The quiet after a good day in the shop..... (aerocarjake) 7. 09:18 PM - Re: Blakesburg adventure (taildrags) 8. 09:37 PM - Re: The 'Piet Builder's Bible' Project - Want In? (taildrags) 9. 11:36 PM - Re: Re: The 'Piet Builder's Bible' Project - Want In? (Clif Dawson) 10. 11:37 PM - Re: Re: The 'Piet Builder's Bible' Project - Want In? (Clif Dawson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:35:06 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: The 'Piet Builder's Bible' Project - Want In? From: "BritishJim" I'm about to embark on the mammoth task of building my Piet and, without any kind of detailed builder's manual to follow, I had an idea. I've been in publishing my entire career, so this could be fun. - Create a book of step-by-step building instructions with photos. Naturally it would be "this is how I did it and there's a thousand ways to build a Piet, but at least it would provide some guidance to new builders. - Post the current section I'm working on either here or on a dedicated website, and invite other builders to provide contributions/tips that they would wish to share with others working on that particular part/section - Compile these comments into the book (right underneath that section/part being built), so builders can look at the various opinions/options and get a look at the broad spectrum of how others are approaching their own projects - Make it available as either a free eBook or paid product with all proceeds going to a worthy aviation cause. Of course, it's not going to raise much, but giving the funds to a charity is more ethical than me turning it into a profit-making exercise. Does this sound like something the Piet community would benefit from and, if so, is anyone interested in contributing their tips/suggestions over the next few years? Just want to gauge viability at this stage. Thanks, Jim. -------- Your nose is high; you're in the sky. The other way around; you'll hit the ground.... Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446923#446923 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:15:04 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: The 'Piet Builder's Bible' Project - Want In? From: "Lorenzo" When I started my build I looked for just such a publication, without success. There are many sources of useful building information - Piet specific, and general in nature. Maybe some think that the search and discovery is part of the adventure. Past issues of the BPA newsletter have a great variety of helpful tips. P.F.Beck has written extensively on this subject, and is a reliable source. The Tony Bingelis series of books contains much useful information. West Coast Piet website has many reference photos. William Wynne is a reliable source for Corvair engine conversion, parts, and weight and balance info. These are just a few of the resources I have found. I think your effort could be very helpful in the long run to consolidate some Piet specific stuff in one place for the beginning builder. One more resource can't hurt, might help. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446929#446929 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:30:30 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: The 'Piet Builder's Bible' Project - Want In? From: "tools" My two cents would be to keep it entirely yours.... The reason is that one person trying to incorporate others ideas while building yourself is likely gonna bog the project down. A well written and published diary, builders log, what ever, including dissertation on why you made the choices you did, and the options from which you chose, would be entirely useful just like that. Trying to write an encyclopedia seems more likely to not get done. Then, once done, chapters on alternatives, parallel stories, what ever, can be added fairly easily. Basically a Piet wiki pedia...? Would be an awesome resource! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446933#446933 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:19:32 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: The 'Piet Builder's Bible' Project - Want In? From: Steven Dortch Don't forget the detail descriptions in the flying and glider magazines. By Bernard himself. On Sep 9, 2015 11:16 AM, "Lorenzo" wrote: > > When I started my build I looked for just such a publication, without > success. There are many sources of useful building information - Piet > specific, and general in nature. Maybe some think that the search and > discovery is part of the adventure. > Past issues of the BPA newsletter have a great variety of helpful tips. > P.F.Beck has written extensively on this subject, and is a reliable > source. The Tony Bingelis series of books contains much useful information. > West Coast Piet website has many reference photos. William Wynne is a > reliable source for Corvair engine conversion, parts, and weight and > balance info. These are just a few of the resources I have found. > I think your effort could be very helpful in the long run to consolidate > some Piet specific stuff in one place for the beginning builder. One more > resource can't hurt, might help. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446929#446929 > > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 03:07:01 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: The quiet after a good day in the shop..... From: "FritzW" ...that just ain't right. Is that really what your shop looks like, or is that an artist concept drawing of what a shop should look like? ...love the engine hanging in the back! -------- Isous Christos, Theou Yios, Str Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446942#446942 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:23:59 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: The quiet after a good day in the shop..... From: "aerocarjake" Ha, thanks....! Figure if I'm going to spend the better part of a decade in that shop, it should be a pleasant place to spend time..... -------- Jake Schultz - curator, Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446945#446945 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 09:18:05 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Blakesburg adventure From: "taildrags" Douwe: whoa-! I had never seen your airplane from an angle that showed the curvature in the exhaust pipes. I always assumed that they were straight all the way back to the offset kickers past the rear cockpit. How'd ya do that??!! Pack them full of sand and then gently bend them around a big water tank or something? -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446954#446954 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 09:37:09 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: The 'Piet Builder's Bible' Project - Want In? From: "taildrags" Many years ago (probably in the early 1970s) some friends and I overhauled the engine in their VW van after it died. We had hand tools and just one book: John Muir's "How To Keep Your Volkswagen Alive... A Manual of Step By Step Procedures For The Compleat Idiot". It was probably one of the most fun and educational things I have ever done in my life, and I found the book to be as delightful to read as the engine was to work on. A book (or manual) about building an Air Camper, written in that style, would be a wonderful read whether one was building a Piet or not, but it would take a special type of writer to do it right. We're not talking about a book on philosophy like "Zen And The Art of Motorcycle Maintenance", but rather a detailed hands-on narrative with appropriate illustrations, possibly also sprinkled here and there with bits of lore or building philosophy when appropriate but mostly geared to the builder or wannabe who enjoys an evening in the armchair with a good book that inspires and educates. Everyone who has commented on this subject has had very useful input, but if you're a writer, you'll probably go ahead with your idea anyway. I did when I decided to build my little "Flying Squirrel" (still under construction). Tools is right though... I've probably spent as much time taking construction photos and writing narratives about the build as I have actually building. Whoever it was who wrote that "life is a journey, not a destination" nailed my life right on the head. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=446955#446955 ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 11:36:41 PM PST US From: "Clif Dawson" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: The 'Piet Builder's Bible' Project - Want In? I think a book written in the style of these two would be quite interesting; http://www.amazon.com/The-Craft-Sail-Primer-Sailing/dp/0802772145 http://www.amazon.com/Marlinspike-Sailor-Hervey-Garrett-Smith/dp/0070592187/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1441865862&sr=1-1&keywords=the+marlinspike+sailor Would fit right in with the Pietenpol Ethos. :-) AND carry on with the Flier and Glider style. Poka! poka! Poka! Clif > > Many years ago (probably in the early 1970s) some friends and I overhauled > the engine in their VW van after it died. We had hand tools and just one > book: John Muir's "How To Keep Your Volkswagen Alive... A Manual of Step > By Step Procedures For The Compleat Idiot". It was probably one of the > most fun and educational things I have ever done in my life, and I found > the book to be as delightful to read as the engine was to work on. A book > (or manual) about building an Air Camper, written in that style, would be > a wonderful read > od book that inspires and educates. > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, OR > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" > A75 power ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 11:37:54 PM PST US From: "Clif Dawson" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: The 'Piet Builder's Bible' Project - Want In? I think a book written in the style of these two would be quite interesting; http://www.amazon.com/The-Craft-Sail-Primer-Sailing/dp/0802772145 http://www.amazon.com/Marlinspike-Sailor-Hervey-Garrett-Smith/dp/0070592187/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1441865862&sr=1-1&keywords=the+marlinspike+sailor Would fit right in with the Pietenpol Ethos. :-) AND carry on with the Flier and Glider style. Poka! poka! Poka! Clif > > Many years ago (probably in the early 1970s) some friends and I overhauled > the engine in their VW van after it died. We had hand tools and just one > book: John Muir's "How To Keep Your Volkswagen Alive... A Manual of Step > By Step Procedures For The Compleat Idiot". It was probably one of the > most fun and educational things I have ever done in my life, and I found > the book to be as delightful to read as the engine was to work on. A book > (or manual) about building an Air Camper, written in that style, would be > a wonderful read > od book that inspires and educates. > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, OR > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" > A75 power ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.