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Mon 11/09/15


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     0. 09:26 AM - A List Contribution - It's Your Personal Squelch Button... (Matt Dralle)
     1. 08:16 AM - Re: Re: Ethiopian Piet type video (Semih Oksay)
     2. 10:07 AM - Re: Re: Ethiopian Piet type video (Ray Krause)
     3. 11:16 AM - Re: Re: Ethiopian Piet type video (Semih Oksay)
     4. 11:36 AM - Re: Re: Ethiopian Piet type video (Jack)
     5. 01:28 PM - Re: Re: Ethiopian Piet type video (Ray Krause)
     6. 01:30 PM - Re: Re: Ethiopian Piet type video (Ray Krause)
     7. 08:24 PM - Re: Wavy Okoume Plywood Leading Edge (wheelharp)
 
 
 


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    Time: 09:26:56 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: A List Contribution - It's Your Personal Squelch Button...
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    Time: 08:16:19 AM PST US
    From: Semih Oksay <semihoksay@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Ethiopian Piet type video
    IMHO very well said Oscar. Semih=8B 2015-11-09 8:57 GMT+02:00 Boatright, Jeffrey <jeffboatright@emory.edu>: > Hi Oscar, > > I didn=99t intend to take anyone down a notch =94 especially you! OTOH, I have > to say that I *am* glad that my poor attempt at humor resulted in you > posting the text below. It says a lot of how I am thinking about this guy > (and others I=99ve met in very poor countries who had different dre ams but > now less challenging). > > Thanks, > > Jeff > > > From: taildrags <taildrags@hotmail.com> > Date: Monday, November 9, 2015 at 1:02 AM > To: "pietenpol-list@matronics.com" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Ethiopian Piet type video > > > Jeff (Boatright)- thank you for taking me down a notch. As a result of > being on this list I have low and slow aviation friends all over the worl d > and I am much the richer for it. My intention in making the statement th at > the world does not owe me (or any other experimental aircraft builder) a > duty to help in our success does not mean that we shouldn't jump in and > help when we can. It certainly does NOT mean that we shouldn't try, > either. It just means that sometimes we get individual ideas and visions > in our heads and we push forward with them no matter what the world aroun d > us says. In those cases, we just have to do what is in our hearts and > heads to do, and failure is certainly an option when we buck the trend an d > the best advice and just push forward anyway. In fact, sometimes our > instinct tells us that something probably won't work but we have to try i t > to see why it doesn't work and to see if we can find out how we might be > able to make it work. I know this is h! > ow "Aviken" feels with his Jeep engine Air Camper project, and how some o f > the rest of you feel with your personalized, "different", custom, unusual , > or unorthodox approaches to things. > > I think that the Ethiopian chap did what he did, the way he did it, > because he doesn't have a Wicks, or an Aircraft Spruce, or even a Lowe's or > Home Depot or Harbor Freight, or an eBay, or Amazon, or Barnstormers, or a > credit card available to him. He has a dream and he put it together the > best way he knew how, with what he had available, in spite of what he > DIDN'T have. We laugh when we watch the video and the prop flies off jus t > after he fires up the engine, but deep inside we didn't want it to just e nd > there. Maybe we would still have laughed if a wheel fell off after he > warmed it up and taxied out, or if any number of other awkward things wou ld > have happened later- but the video would have gone absolutely viral if hi s > rig would have made it to the runway, and he throttled it up, and he > stumbled and bumbled and bumped it down the runway far enough to where it > came up onto the mains and got even a foot or two of air under the tires > for even just a few seconds before som! > ething else happened and it came crashing back to the ground. And > granted, with as much questionable stuff as he had on it, there is no dou bt > that it would have come down sooner rather than later. > > We would have cheered the fact that he flew it. We would have felt what > he felt, because we have felt it too. We would have welcomed him into th e > fraternity of aviators, because he earned it. And maybe he will. > > Far be it from me to deprive this man from any part of what he has put hi s > heart and soul to do, and to attempt. I hope he makes it. > > -------- > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, OR > Air Camper NX41CC &quot;Scout&quot; > A75 power > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=449007#449007 > > =========== =========== =========== =========== =========== > > > ------------------------------ > > This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use of > the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged > information. If the reader of this message is not the intended > recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution > or copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictly > prohibited. > > If you have received this message in error, please contact > the sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of the > original message (including attachments). > -- Semih Oksay


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    Time: 10:07:15 AM PST US
    From: Ray Krause <raykrause@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: Ethiopian Piet type video
    Oscar and Jeff, I have made email contact with Asmelash Zeferu in Africa, thanks to Ryan' s sleuthing! I sent you a copy of my email to him giving him directions to join the PIETENPOL Forum. I hope that if he joins the Forum, our members will be helpful and recognize the great effort he has gone through under very trying circumstances. I have lived in similar countries with like resources, so I recognize his determination! We should be able to offer helpful encouragement. He says he has calculated the W/B. Thanks, Ray Krause Sent from my iPad > On Nov 8, 2015, at 10:02 PM, taildrags <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > Jeff (Boatright)- thank you for taking me down a notch. As a result of being on this list I have low and slow aviation friends all over the world and I am much the richer for it. My intention in making the statement that the world does not owe me (or any other experimental aircraft builder) a duty to help in our success does not mean that we shouldn't jump in and help when we can. It certainly does NOT mean that we shouldn't try, either. It just means that sometimes we get individual ideas and visions in our heads and we push forward with them no matter what the world around us says. In those cases, we just have to do what is in our hearts and heads to do, and failure is certainly an option when we buck the trend and the best advice and just push forward anyway. In fact, sometimes our instinct tells us that something probably won't work but we have to try it to see why it doesn't work and to see if we can find out how we might be able to make it work. I know this is h! > ow "Aviken" feels with his Jeep engine Air Camper project, and how some of the rest of you feel with your personalized, "different", custom, unusual, or unorthodox approaches to things. > > I think that the Ethiopian chap did what he did, the way he did it, because he doesn't have a Wicks, or an Aircraft Spruce, or even a Lowe's or Home Depot or Harbor Freight, or an eBay, or Amazon, or Barnstormers, or a credit card available to him. He has a dream and he put it together the best way he knew how, with what he had available, in spite of what he DIDN'T have. We laugh when we watch the video and the prop flies off just after he fires up the engine, but deep inside we didn't want it to just end there. Maybe we would still have laughed if a wheel fell off after he warmed it up and taxied out, or if any number of other awkward things would have happened later- but the video would have gone absolutely viral if his rig would have made it to the runway, and he throttled it up, and he stumbled and bumbled and bumped it down the runway far enough to where it came up onto the mains and got even a foot or two of air under the tires for even just a few seconds before som! > ething else happened and it came crashing back to the ground. And granted, with as much questionable stuff as he had on it, there is no doubt that it would have come down sooner rather than later. > > We would have cheered the fact that he flew it. We would have felt what he felt, because we have felt it too. We would have welcomed him into the fraternity of aviators, because he earned it. And maybe he will. > > Far be it from me to deprive this man from any part of what he has put his heart and soul to do, and to attempt. I hope he makes it. > > -------- > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, OR > Air Camper NX41CC &quot;Scout&quot; > A75 power > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=449007#449007 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 11:16:06 AM PST US
    From: Semih Oksay <semihoksay@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Ethiopian Piet type video
    Ok. I think I have a few words to say: =8BI am building my Piet in a country which is slightly better than Ethiopia in aircraft materials. This is based on my lifetime experience: If someone asks for help, do it. If not, forget it. Question: does Asmelash Zeferu speak (or at least understand) English? If he seeks help, I am sure he can reach it. You guys (Ray) say he has an e-mail, this means he has access to internet. Since I am closer to Africa compared to you guys, I think I know them better. There is no difference in between the people of this planet. There are good, curious and productive guys and there are others. So IMHO if we can communicate with him and he is opn to advice, we should do what we can. Please forgive the philosophy Regards Semih 2015-11-09 20:06 GMT+02:00 Ray Krause <raykrause@frontiernet.net>: > raykrause@frontiernet.net> > > Oscar and Jeff, > > I have made email contact with Asmelash Zeferu in Africa, thanks to Ryan' > s sleuthing! I sent you a copy of my email to him giving him directions t o > join the PIETENPOL Forum. I hope that if he joins the Forum, our members > will be helpful and recognize the great effort he has gone through under > very trying circumstances. I have lived in similar countries with like > resources, so I recognize his determination! We should be able to offer > helpful encouragement. > > He says he has calculated the W/B. > > Thanks, > > Ray Krause > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Nov 8, 2015, at 10:02 PM, taildrags <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote: > > m > > > > > > Jeff (Boatright)- thank you for taking me down a notch. As a result of > being on this list I have low and slow aviation friends all over the worl d > and I am much the richer for it. My intention in making the statement th at > the world does not owe me (or any other experimental aircraft builder) a > duty to help in our success does not mean that we shouldn't jump in and > help when we can. It certainly does NOT mean that we shouldn't try, > either. It just means that sometimes we get individual ideas and visions > in our heads and we push forward with them no matter what the world aroun d > us says. In those cases, we just have to do what is in our hearts and > heads to do, and failure is certainly an option when we buck the trend an d > the best advice and just push forward anyway. In fact, sometimes our > instinct tells us that something probably won't work but we have to try i t > to see why it doesn't work and to see if we can find out how we might be > able to make it work. I know this is! > h! > > ow "Aviken" feels with his Jeep engine Air Camper project, and how some > of the rest of you feel with your personalized, "different", custom, > unusual, or unorthodox approaches to things. > > > > I think that the Ethiopian chap did what he did, the way he did it, > because he doesn't have a Wicks, or an Aircraft Spruce, or even a Lowe's or > Home Depot or Harbor Freight, or an eBay, or Amazon, or Barnstormers, or a > credit card available to him. He has a dream and he put it together the > best way he knew how, with what he had available, in spite of what he > DIDN'T have. We laugh when we watch the video and the prop flies off jus t > after he fires up the engine, but deep inside we didn't want it to just e nd > there. Maybe we would still have laughed if a wheel fell off after he > warmed it up and taxied out, or if any number of other awkward things wou ld > have happened later- but the video would have gone absolutely viral if hi s > rig would have made it to the runway, and he throttled it up, and he > stumbled and bumbled and bumped it down the runway far enough to where it > came up onto the mains and got even a foot or two of air under the tires > for even just a few seconds before s! > om! > > ething else happened and it came crashing back to the ground. And > granted, with as much questionable stuff as he had on it, there is no dou bt > that it would have come down sooner rather than later. > > > > We would have cheered the fact that he flew it. We would have felt wha t > he felt, because we have felt it too. We would have welcomed him into th e > fraternity of aviators, because he earned it. And maybe he will. > > > > Far be it from me to deprive this man from any part of what he has put > his heart and soul to do, and to attempt. I hope he makes it. > > > > -------- > > Oscar Zuniga > > Medford, OR > > Air Camper NX41CC &quot;Scout&quot; > > A75 power > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=449007#449007 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== =========== > > -- Semih Oksay


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    Time: 11:36:38 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Ethiopian Piet type video
    From: Jack <jack@textors.com>
    Ray in response to your note to Asmelash I signed him up for the Pietenpol page and sent him a note with that info and the EAA site. Sent from my iPad Jack Textor > On Nov 9, 2015, at 12:06 PM, Ray Krause <raykrause@frontiernet.net> wrote: > > > Oscar and Jeff, > > I have made email contact with Asmelash Zeferu in Africa, thanks to Ryan' s sleuthing! I sent you a copy of my email to him giving him directions to join the PIETENPOL Forum. I hope that if he joins the Forum, our members will be helpful and recognize the great effort he has gone through under very trying circumstances. I have lived in similar countries with like resources, so I recognize his determination! We should be able to offer helpful encouragement. > > He says he has calculated the W/B. > > Thanks, > > Ray Krause > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Nov 8, 2015, at 10:02 PM, taildrags <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> Jeff (Boatright)- thank you for taking me down a notch. As a result of being on this list I have low and slow aviation friends all over the world and I am much the richer for it. My intention in making the statement that the world does not owe me (or any other experimental aircraft builder) a duty to help in our success does not mean that we shouldn't jump in and help when we can. It certainly does NOT mean that we shouldn't try, either. It just means that sometimes we get individual ideas and visions in our heads and we push forward with them no matter what the world around us says. In those cases, we just have to do what is in our hearts and heads to do, and failure is certainly an option when we buck the trend and the best advice and just push forward anyway. In fact, sometimes our instinct tells us that something probably won't work but we have to try it to see why it doesn't work and to see if we can find out how we might be able to make it work. I know this is! > h! >> ow "Aviken" feels with his Jeep engine Air Camper project, and how some of the rest of you feel with your personalized, "different", custom, unusual, or unorthodox approaches to things. >> >> I think that the Ethiopian chap did what he did, the way he did it, because he doesn't have a Wicks, or an Aircraft Spruce, or even a Lowe's or Home Depot or Harbor Freight, or an eBay, or Amazon, or Barnstormers, or a credit card available to him. He has a dream and he put it together the best way he knew how, with what he had available, in spite of what he DIDN'T have. We laugh when we watch the video and the prop flies off just after he fires up the engine, but deep inside we didn't want it to just end there. Maybe we would still have laughed if a wheel fell off after he warmed it up and taxied out, or if any number of other awkward things would have happened later- but the video would have gone absolutely viral if his rig would have made it to the runway, and he throttled it up, and he stumbled and bumbled and bumped it down the runway far enough to where it came up onto the mains and got even a foot or two of air under the tires for even just a few seconds before s! > om! >> ething else happened and it came crashing back to the ground. And granted, with as much questionable stuff as he had on it, there is no doubt that it would have come down sooner rather than later. >> >> We would have cheered the fact that he flew it. We would have felt what he felt, because we have felt it too. We would have welcomed him into the fraternity of aviators, because he earned it. And maybe he will. >> >> Far be it from me to deprive this man from any part of what he has put his heart and soul to do, and to attempt. I hope he makes it. >> >> -------- >> Oscar Zuniga >> Medford, OR >> Air Camper NX41CC &quot;Scout&quot; >> A75 power >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=449007#449007 > > > > >


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    Time: 01:28:56 PM PST US
    From: Ray Krause <raykrause@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: Ethiopian Piet type video
    Seminar, Asmelash writes in perfect English and has internet access. I'm sure he will be on the Forum right away. I will ask him if it is OK to share his email a ddress. Thanks, Ray Krause Sent from my iPad > On Nov 9, 2015, at 11:14 AM, Semih Oksay <semihoksay@gmail.com> wrote: > > Ok. I think I have a few words to say: =8BI am building my Piet in a country which is slightly better than Ethiopia in aircraft materials. > This is based on my lifetime experience: If someone asks for help, do it. I f not, forget it. > Question: does Asmelash Zeferu speak (or at least understand) English? > If he seeks help, I am sure he can reach it. You guys (Ray) say he has an e -mail, this means he has access to internet. Since I am closer to Africa com pared to you guys, I think I know them better. There is no difference in bet ween the people of this planet. There are good, curious and productive guys a nd there are others. So IMHO if we can communicate with him and he is opn to advice, we should do what we can. > > Please forgive the philosophy > > Regards > > Semih > > 2015-11-09 20:06 GMT+02:00 Ray Krause <raykrause@frontiernet.net>: et> >> >> Oscar and Jeff, >> >> I have made email contact with Asmelash Zeferu in Africa, thanks to Ryan' s sleuthing! I sent you a copy of my email to him giving him directions to j oin the PIETENPOL Forum. I hope that if he joins the Forum, our members will be helpful and recognize the great effort he has gone through under very tr ying circumstances. I have lived in similar countries with like resources, s o I recognize his determination! We should be able to offer helpful encourag ement. >> >> He says he has calculated the W/B. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Ray Krause >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >> > On Nov 8, 2015, at 10:02 PM, taildrags <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote: >> > m> >> > >> > Jeff (Boatright)- thank you for taking me down a notch. As a result of being on this list I have low and slow aviation friends all over the world a nd I am much the richer for it. My intention in making the statement that t he world does not owe me (or any other experimental aircraft builder) a duty to help in our success does not mean that we shouldn't jump in and help whe n we can. It certainly does NOT mean that we shouldn't try, either. It jus t means that sometimes we get individual ideas and visions in our heads and w e push forward with them no matter what the world around us says. In those c ases, we just have to do what is in our hearts and heads to do, and failure i s certainly an option when we buck the trend and the best advice and just pu sh forward anyway. In fact, sometimes our instinct tells us that something p robably won't work but we have to try it to see why it doesn't work and to s ee if we can find out how we might be able to make it work. I know this is! >> h! >> > ow "Aviken" feels with his Jeep engine Air Camper project, and how some of the rest of you feel with your personalized, "different", custom, unusua l, or unorthodox approaches to things. >> > >> > I think that the Ethiopian chap did what he did, the way he did it, bec ause he doesn't have a Wicks, or an Aircraft Spruce, or even a Lowe's or Hom e Depot or Harbor Freight, or an eBay, or Amazon, or Barnstormers, or a cred it card available to him. He has a dream and he put it together the best wa y he knew how, with what he had available, in spite of what he DIDN'T have. We laugh when we watch the video and the prop flies off just after he fires up the engine, but deep inside we didn't want it to just end there. Maybe w e would still have laughed if a wheel fell off after he warmed it up and tax ied out, or if any number of other awkward things would have happened later- but the video would have gone absolutely viral if his rig would have made i t to the runway, and he throttled it up, and he stumbled and bumbled and bum ped it down the runway far enough to where it came up onto the mains and got even a foot or two of air under the tires for even just a few seconds befor e s! >> om! >> > ething else happened and it came crashing back to the ground. And gran ted, with as much questionable stuff as he had on it, there is no doubt that it would have come down sooner rather than later. >> > >> > We would have cheered the fact that he flew it. We would have felt wha t he felt, because we have felt it too. We would have welcomed him into the fraternity of aviators, because he earned it. And maybe he will. >> > >> > Far be it from me to deprive this man from any part of what he has put h is heart and soul to do, and to attempt. I hope he makes it. >> > >> > -------- >> > Oscar Zuniga >> > Medford, OR >> > Air Camper NX41CC &quot;Scout&quot; >> > A75 power >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Read this topic online here: >> > >> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=449007#449007 >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> ========== >> br> fts!) >> r> > w.buildersbooks.com" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">www.builde rsbooks.com >> target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://www.matronics.com/contributio n >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> ========== >> br> enpol-List" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://www.matronics .com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >> ========== >> FORUMS - >> _blank" rel="noreferrer">http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> b Site - >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> target="_blank" rel="noreferrer">http://www.matronics.com/contributio n >> ========== > > > > -- > Semih Oksay


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    Time: 01:30:46 PM PST US
    From: Ray Krause <raykrause@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: Ethiopian Piet type video
    Jack, He sounds very pleased to be making contact with us. I hope we can sincerely help him in his quest. On his face page he has a lot of pictures of his build. It all looks quite familiar! Ray Sent from my iPad > On Nov 9, 2015, at 11:36 AM, Jack <jack@textors.com> wrote: > > > Ray in response to your note to Asmelash I signed him up for the Pietenpol page and sent him a note with that info and the EAA site. > > Sent from my iPad > Jack Textor > >> On Nov 9, 2015, at 12:06 PM, Ray Krause <raykrause@frontiernet.net> wrote: >> >> >> Oscar and Jeff, >> >> I have made email contact with Asmelash Zeferu in Africa, thanks to Ryan' s sleuthing! I sent you a copy of my email to him giving him directions to join the PIETENPOL Forum. I hope that if he joins the Forum, our members will be helpful and recognize the great effort he has gone through under very trying circumstances. I have lived in similar countries with like resources, so I recognize his determination! We should be able to offer helpful encouragement. >> >> He says he has calculated the W/B. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Ray Krause >> >> Sent from my iPad >> >>> On Nov 8, 2015, at 10:02 PM, taildrags <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> Jeff (Boatright)- thank you for taking me down a notch. As a result of being on this list I have low and slow aviation friends all over the world and I am much the richer for it. My intention in making the statement that the world does not owe me (or any other experimental aircraft builder) a duty to help in our success does not mean that we shouldn't jump in and help when we can. It certainly does NOT mean that we shouldn't try, either. It just means that sometimes we get individual ideas and visions in our heads and we push forward with them no matter what the world around us says. In those cases, we just have to do what is in our hearts and heads to do, and failure is certainly an option when we buck the trend and the best advice and just push forward anyway. In fact, sometimes our instinct tells us that something probably won't work but we have to try it to see why it doesn't work and to see if we can find out how we might be able to make it work. I know this i! > s! >> h! >>> ow "Aviken" feels with his Jeep engine Air Camper project, and how some of the rest of you feel with your personalized, "different", custom, unusual, or unorthodox approaches to things. >>> >>> I think that the Ethiopian chap did what he did, the way he did it, because he doesn't have a Wicks, or an Aircraft Spruce, or even a Lowe's or Home Depot or Harbor Freight, or an eBay, or Amazon, or Barnstormers, or a credit card available to him. He has a dream and he put it together the best way he knew how, with what he had available, in spite of what he DIDN'T have. We laugh when we watch the video and the prop flies off just after he fires up the engine, but deep inside we didn't want it to just end there. Maybe we would still have laughed if a wheel fell off after he warmed it up and taxied out, or if any number of other awkward things would have happened later- but the video would have gone absolutely viral if his rig would have made it to the runway, and he throttled it up, and he stumbled and bumbled and bumped it down the runway far enough to where it came up onto the mains and got even a foot or two of air under the tires for even just a few seconds before ! > s! >> om! >>> ething else happened and it came crashing back to the ground. And granted, with as much questionable stuff as he had on it, there is no doubt that it would have come down sooner rather than later. >>> >>> We would have cheered the fact that he flew it. We would have felt what he felt, because we have felt it too. We would have welcomed him into the fraternity of aviators, because he earned it. And maybe he will. >>> >>> Far be it from me to deprive this man from any part of what he has put his heart and soul to do, and to attempt. I hope he makes it. >>> >>> -------- >>> Oscar Zuniga >>> Medford, OR >>> Air Camper NX41CC &quot;Scout&quot; >>> A75 power >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Read this topic online here: >>> >>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=449007#449007 > > > > >


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    Subject: Re: Wavy Okoume Plywood Leading Edge
    From: "wheelharp" <wheelharp@gmail.com>
    Don't the plans show 28 ga aluminum, which would eliminate any of the seasonal expansion? -------- Jon Jones Ironton, MO Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=449124#449124




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