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     0. 10:01 AM - Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published in December! (Matt Dralle)
     1. 12:51 PM - Arizona Piet (Donald Koehnlein)
 
 
 


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    Time: 10:01:53 AM PST US
    From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com>
    Subject: Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published
    in December! Dear Listers, The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists. Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account: http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about how the Lists have helped you! Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator


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    Time: 12:51:34 PM PST US
    From: Donald Koehnlein <mustangg40@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Arizona Piet
    Hi, I'm new to the Pietenpol list and would like to see a project or flying Piet. I was at the Copper State fly-in on Saturday this year and didn't see any Piets there. I live in Mesa AZ and go to Payson AZ quite often. Thank you. Don Koehnlein -------------------------------------------- On Thu, 11/12/15, Pietenpol-List Digest Server <pietenpol-list@matronics.com> wrote: Subject: Pietenpol-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 11/11/15 To: "Pietenpol-List Digest List" <pietenpol-list-digest@matronics.com> Date: Thursday, November 12, 2015, 1:03 AM * ================================================= Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================= Today's complete Pietenpol-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the Pietenpol-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 15-11-11&Archive=Pietenpol Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 15-11-11&Archive=Pietenpol =============================================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive =============================================== ---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 11/11/15: 9 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 11:07 AM - [PLEASE READ] Why I Have A Fund Raiser...(Matt Dralle) 1. 09:39 AM - Rudder Post (Jack) 2. 10:02 AM - Re: Rudder Post (Tony Crawford) 3. 10:03 AM - Re: Rudder Post (Tony Crawford) 4. 11:26 AM - Rudder Post (Jack) 5. 12:46 PM - Re: Rudder Post (Tony Crawford) 6. 01:07 PM - Re: Rudder Post (Jack) 7. 01:25 PM - Re: Wavy Okoume Plywood Leading Edge (taildrags) 8. 06:44 PM - Re: Rudder Post (Bill Church) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 11:07:42 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle <dralle@matronics.com> Subject: Pietenpol-List: [PLEASE READ] Why I Have A Fund Raiser... Since the beginning, the Matronics List and Forum experience has been free from advertising. I have been approached by fair number of vendors wanting to tap into the large volume of activity across the various lists hosted here, but have always flatly refused. Everywhere you go on the Internet these days, a user is pummeled with flashing banners and videos and ads for crap that they don't want. Yahoo, Google and that ilk are not "free". The user must constantly endure their barrage of commercialism thrust into their face at an ever increasing rate. Enough is enough, and the Lists at Matronics choose not to succumb to that. That being said, running a service of this size is not "free". It costs a lot of money to maintain the hardware, pay for the electricity, air conditioning, maintenance contracts, etc, etc. etc. I choose to hold a PBS-like fund raiser each year during the month of November where I simply send out a short email every other day asking the members to make a small contribution to support the operation. That being said, that contribution is completely voluntary and non-compulsory. Many members choose not to contribute and that's fine. However, a very modest percentage of the members do choose to make a contribution and it is that financial support that keeps the Lists running. And that's it. To my way of thinking, it is a much more pleasant way of maintaining the Lists and Forums. The other 11 months of the year, you don't see a single advertisement or request for support. That's refreshing and that is a List and Forum that I want to belong to. I think other people feel the same way. Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support these Lists? http://www.matronics.com/contribution Or, drop a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 USA Thank you for your support! Matt Dralle Email List Admin. ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 09:39:27 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Rudder Post From: Jack <jack@textors.com> Hi Piet friends, I'm redoing my rudder post as per Jack Phillips. As I looked at my existing post it's not fabricated per the Flying and Glider Manual. My existing one is done with 1" at the top and bottom tabs. I can't find a matching layout in my plans. Can anyone point me to a layout? Thanks! Jack Sent from my iPad Jack Textor ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 10:02:25 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Rudder Post From: Tony Crawford <tonyp51qa@gmail.com> I do not have that drawing in my plans!!!! I bought my plans in March of this year!! Tony Crawford On Nov 11, 2015 11:43 AM, "Jack" <jack@textors.com> wrote: > Hi Piet friends, > I'm redoing my rudder post as per Jack Phillips. As I looked at my > existing post it's not fabricated per the Flying and Glider Manual. My > existing one is done with 1" at the top and bottom tabs. I can't find a > matching layout in my plans. Can anyone point me to a layout? > Thanks! > Jack > > > Sent from my iPad > Jack Textor > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:03:42 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Rudder Post From: Tony Crawford <tonyp51qa@gmail.com> I'm set on build up that post this weekend. On Nov 11, 2015 12:01 PM, "Tony Crawford" <tonyp51qa@gmail.com> wrote: > I do not have that drawing in my plans!!!! I bought my plans in March of > this year!! > > Tony Crawford > On Nov 11, 2015 11:43 AM, "Jack" <jack@textors.com> wrote: > >> Hi Piet friends, >> I'm redoing my rudder post as per Jack Phillips. As I looked at my >> existing post it's not fabricated per the Flying and Glider Manual. My >> existing one is done with 1" at the top and bottom tabs. I can't find a >> matching layout in my plans. Can anyone point me to a layout? >> Thanks! >> Jack >> >> >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> Jack Textor >> > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 11:26:39 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Rudder Post From: Jack <jack@textors.com> Tony here is what I found on drawing 4. I'm more perplexed because my exist ing post is 5 1/2" between the floor bolts. Not sure where I came up with t hat years ago... Jack Sent from my iPad Jack Textor ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 12:46:39 PM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Rudder Post From: Tony Crawford <tonyp51qa@gmail.com> Hi, Do you live anywhere near northern Alabama? Tony On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Jack <jack@textors.com> wrote: > Tony here is what I found on drawing 4. I'm more perplexed because my > existing post is 5 1/2" between the floor bolts. Not sure where I came up > with that years ago... > Jack > > > Sent from my iPad > Jack Textor > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:07:20 PM PST US From: Jack <jack@textors.com> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Rudder Post In Des Moines IA Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 11, 2015, at 2:46 PM, Tony Crawford <tonyp51qa@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi, > Do you live anywhere near northern Alabama? > > Tony > >> On Wed, Nov 11, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Jack <jack@textors.com> wrote: >> Tony here is what I found on drawing 4. I'm more perplexed because my ex isting post is 5 1/2" between the floor bolts. Not sure where I came up wit h that years ago... >> Jack >> >> >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPad >> Jack Textor > ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 01:25:33 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wavy Okoume Plywood Leading Edge From: "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com> Bill; yet another drawback of aluminum for leading edges is that when you bump the hangar door or anything else with it, you have a dent. You can sometimes pop them back out if you can get to the backside to push them out, but they are never smooth again. I've seen a case were a builder wanted to go the ultra-cheap route and used the dead-soft aluminum that you buy in a roll at the hardware store and can cut with scissors. That stuff is absolutely unforgiving when it comes to dents. You can use good aircraft sheet aluminum and it's more resistant to dents, but it needs to be a bit heavier and stiffer and that makes it more difficult to form and install the leading edges. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC &quot;Scout&quot; A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=449218#449218 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 06:44:25 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rudder Post From: "Bill Church" <billspiet@sympatico.ca> Those are tough questions, Jack. :) I wouldn't be too worried about the tabs being 1" instead of 1 1/4". Since the 1934 plans don't even provide a dimension, most builders probably just eyeball it - which probably is what you did. It looks like about an inch, relatively speaking. Funny how both the FGM plans and the 1934 plans both provide incomplete information for this component - but they are incomplete in different ways. Not sure why your mounting bolts are spaced at 5 1/2" instead of 6 1/2". One possible scenario is that you may have done the calculations, laid out the part, cut it, drilled it, and bent it, and when you were finished, in order to maintain the required height, that's just the way it worked. If you were to open up the bends to maintain 6 1/2", the height would probably be too short. And, since you most likely already have the floor drilled, there's no point in trying to change it now. Bill C. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=449227#449227 Lists This Month -- Some AWESOME FREE Gifts!) Raiser. Click on more about Gifts provided www.buildersbooks.com -Matt Dralle, List Admin. Email Forum - - MATRONICS WEB FORUMS - List Contribution Web Site - -Matt Dralle, List Admin.




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