Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Thu 11/19/15


Total Messages Posted: 3



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     1. 03:23 AM - Re: Rudder Post (oldbird)
     2. 06:18 AM - Re: Rudder Post (Bill Church)
     3. 06:37 AM - Re: Re: Rudder Post (Scott Knowlton)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:23:06 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rudder Post
    From: "oldbird" <semihoksay@gmail.com>
    Hi I realized one of the drawings specify "braze" and the other nothing for the rudder bar pivot bolt. None says "weld". Braze and weld are not the same. To my knowledge, AN bolts are made of some alloy steel. Most likely containing chromium and heat treated. Usually they harden when heated red hot and left to cool. This causes a boundary of different crystal structures at and beside the welded area. This is a danger area in starting a crack. This brings up a question to my mind: What type of bolts did Mr. Pietenpol use? Were AN hardware available as early as 1920s, in Minnesota? This will also help my decision about the bolts I am going to use in my Piet. My guess: Mr. Pietenpol used normal grade 8 bolts. Regards and happy landings. Semih Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=449738#449738


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    Time: 06:18:05 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rudder Post
    From: "Bill Church" <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
    In the plans, the only reference to any fastener specification that I could find was on the drawing sheet for the split landing gear. In the materials list, the bolts are listed as "nickel steel." So, it might be safe to assume that this would be the type of fasteners used throughout the aircraft, when it was designed. Nickel Steel is an alloy steel, with nickel being added to the steel for added strength, ductility and corrosion resistance. However, finding fasteners made of Nickel Steel in today's world is a challenge. Perhaps they were readily available in the 1930s. Bill C. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=449744#449744


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    Time: 06:37:39 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Rudder Post
    From: Scott Knowlton <flyingscott_k@hotmail.com>
    And probably cost less than a nickel! Sent from my iPhone > On Nov 19, 2015, at 9:22 AM, Bill Church <billspiet@sympatico.ca> wrote: > > > In the plans, the only reference to any fastener specification that I could find was on the drawing sheet for the split landing gear. In the materials list, the bolts are listed as "nickel steel." So, it might be safe to assume that this would be the type of fasteners used throughout the aircraft, when it was designed. > Nickel Steel is an alloy steel, with nickel being added to the steel for added strength, ductility and corrosion resistance. However, finding fasteners made of Nickel Steel in today's world is a challenge. Perhaps they were readily available in the 1930s. > > Bill C. > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=449744#449744 > > > > > > > > > >




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