---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 11/20/15: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 0. 09:17 AM - Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists... (Matt Dralle) 1. 12:11 PM - Re: Sun n Fun 2016 Project (dgaldrich) 2. 01:05 PM - Re: Rudder Post (at7000ft) ________________________________ Message 0 _____________________________________ Time: 09:17:48 AM PST US From: Matt Dralle Subject: Pietenpol-List: Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists... Dear Listers, Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these great List services!! Pick up a really nice free gift with your qualifying Contribution too! The Contribution Site is fast and easy: http://www.matronics.com/contribution or by dropping a personal check in the mail to: Matt Dralle / Matronics 581 Jeannie Way Livermore CA 94550 Thank you! Matt Dralle Matronics Email List Administrator ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 12:11:06 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Sun n Fun 2016 Project From: "dgaldrich" Hi Tony Looks like we will be able to do your horizontal stab and elevators (or flippers) this year. The only fly in the ointment is that Skip is not driving back up through Atlanta and can't deliver it. If you know anybody who could pick them up or if anybody on this list is going back trough Atlanta and could deliver, that would be great. More to follow... For the rest of you, we are going to do something incredibly heretical at Sun N Fun -- work on a KR-2. I know, enclosed cockpit, side by side, low wing, fast, yada, yada. Quelle horreur. But here's the deal. A gentleman inherited a KR-2 project from a person who had the audacity to pass away before he finished. He is donating the project to us to work on and then pass it on to another deserving party. We haven't seen the project and have no details as to what stage it is and what quality work has been done but we'll find out soon enough, hopefully. Dave Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=449844#449844 ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 01:05:45 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Rudder Post From: "at7000ft" oldbird wrote: > Hi > > I realized one of the drawings specify "braze" and the other nothing for the rudder bar pivot bolt. None says "weld". Braze and weld are not the same. To my knowledge, AN bolts are made of some alloy steel. Most likely containing chromium and heat treated. Usually they harden when heated red hot and left to cool. This causes a boundary of different crystal structures at and beside the welded area. This is a danger area in starting a crack. > > This brings up a question to my mind: What type of bolts did Mr. Pietenpol use? Were AN hardware available as early as 1920s, in Minnesota? This will also help my decision about the bolts I am going to use in my Piet. My guess: Mr. Pietenpol used normal grade 8 bolts. > > Regards and happy landings. > > Semih Semih You will feel much better when flying your Piet knowing you used AN hardware throughout -- except for that rudder bar pivot bolt. I tig welded mine and have had no problems through 75 hrs of flying and heavy rudder use. The cadmium on a hot AN bolt is not something you want to inhale. Used a grade 8 for that one. Rick H -------- Rick Holland NX6819Z Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=449846#449846 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.