Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Wed 12/30/15


Total Messages Posted: 26



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     1. 07:05 AM - Re: slow Piet list (wheelharp)
     2. 07:07 AM - Re: slow Piet list (AircamperN11MS)
     3. 07:11 AM - Re: slow Piet list (Boatright, Jeffrey)
     4. 07:14 AM - Re: Re: slow Piet list (Boatright, Jeffrey)
     5. 07:28 AM - Re: slow Piet list (AircamperN11MS)
     6. 08:15 AM - Re: slow Piet list (taildrags)
     7. 08:20 AM - Re: slow Piet list (wheelharp)
     8. 08:21 AM - Re: slow Piet list (AircamperN11MS)
     9. 08:38 AM - Re: Re: slow Piet list (Rick Schreiber)
    10. 08:44 AM - Re: slow Piet list (AircamperN11MS)
    11. 08:53 AM - Re: Re: slow Piet list (Boatright, Jeffrey)
    12. 08:56 AM - Re: Re: slow Piet list (Marcus Zechini)
    13. 09:00 AM - Re: Slow list and tablets in the cockpit (woodflier)
    14. 09:01 AM - Re: slow Piet list (AircamperN11MS)
    15. 09:21 AM - Re: Re: slow Piet list (Fastnaught John)
    16. 09:28 AM - Re: Re: slow Piet list (Boatright, Jeffrey)
    17. 09:29 AM - Re: Re: slow Piet list (Boatright, Jeffrey)
    18. 11:14 AM - Re: Re: slow Piet list (Steven Dortch)
    19. 12:10 PM - Re: slow Piet list (AircamperN11MS)
    20. 12:40 PM - Re: Re: slow Piet list (Richard Schreiber)
    21. 12:47 PM - Re: Re: slow Piet list (Marcus Zechini)
    22. 04:11 PM - Re: Re: slow Piet list (Charles N. Campbell)
    23. 07:51 PM - tail hinges (taildrags)
    24. 09:26 PM - Re: tail hinges (Ray Krause)
    25. 11:28 PM - Re: slow Piet list (Clif Dawson)
    26. 11:28 PM - Re: Re: slow Piet list (Clif Dawson)
 
 
 


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    Time: 07:05:11 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: slow Piet list
    From: "wheelharp" <wheelharp@gmail.com>
    that's a bummer... Would code allow (and would you have room) for a yurt? I have heard some folks that have been restricted by building code have built pretty nice yurts for a shop. Getting the canvas UV resistant shouldn't be any problem for a stick and rag airplane guy ; ) -------- Jon Jones Ironton, MO Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=451497#451497


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    Time: 07:07:31 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: slow Piet list
    From: "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>
    Oscar, That sure looks cold. I expect we will also have some snow this year. We've had lows of 16 degrees several days this year already. It does warm to the upper 40's during the day with a couple of 50 degree days tossed in here and there. I haven't flown in in 3 or 4 weeks. But I have been working on the plane doing a few upgrades. You will need to come to the west coast gathering to see what I've done. Nothing too major. My wife did buy me an Ipad so I can subscribe and use ForeFlight. After the initial purchase of the Ipad the annual contract will be worth it provided I do some more cross country flying. I can now throw away all my paper sectionals. The darn things were always difficult to use in an open cockpit. Thanks for the update and have a happy new year. Cheers, -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=451499#451499


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    Time: 07:11:24 AM PST US
    From: "Boatright, Jeffrey" <jeffboatright@emory.edu>
    Subject: Re: slow Piet list
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    Time: 07:14:10 AM PST US
    From: "Boatright, Jeffrey" <jeffboatright@emory.edu>
    Subject: Re: slow Piet list
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    Time: 07:28:54 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: slow Piet list
    From: "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>
    Jeff, I got the Ipad Mini4. It is about the same physical size that a folded up chart is. I need to now fashion a way to mount it in the plane. I don't really like flying with knee boards. I have some ideas I'm going to try. Hope it works. I am still trying to understand the Microsoft OS. I have always used Androids. That part is a bit frustrating for me. I have been messing with it (ForeFlight) a little each night. I am just using the 30 day trial right now. I'll pay to subscribe when that runs out. I am wondering if my GPS is now unneeded, or will the the Ipad drop its signal in flight at times????? If I can lose the small GPS I have, it will give me some more room in the cockpit. Does anyone have that answer? -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=451502#451502


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    Time: 08:15:22 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: slow Piet list
    From: "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Bill Rewey used to sell a nifty pack of tips and ideas that included a homemade cockpit mount for a handheld radio. I have my copy of Bill's details somewhere, probably in the hangar, but if he still sells them it is sure worth the money. Perhaps Bill's handheld bracket could be modified to suit an iPad mini-? -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC &quot;Scout&quot; A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=451503#451503


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    Time: 08:20:12 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: slow Piet list
    From: "wheelharp" <wheelharp@gmail.com>
    Oscar, I guess you cast the hinge pieces...what kind of setup do you use as far as type of foundry, do you use sand or some other type mold, etc? -------- Jon Jones Ironton, MO Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=451504#451504


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    Time: 08:21:48 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: slow Piet list
    From: "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>
    Good thought Oscar, BUT, I have a steel tube fuselage. Everything is different. But all the tubing lends itself to easier mounting. Usually my first ideas are the ones that work out the best. I always try several ideas but seem to always go back to the first idea. Time and patience are my best friends when doing this stuff. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=451505#451505


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    Time: 08:38:20 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: slow Piet list
    From: Rick Schreiber <lmforge@earthlink.net>
    On 12/30/2015 9:28 AM, AircamperN11MS wrote: > > Jeff, > > I got the Ipad Mini4. It is about the same physical size that a folded up chart is. I need to now fashion a way to mount it in the plane. I don't really like flying with knee boards. I have some ideas I'm going to try. Hope it works. I am still trying to understand the Microsoft OS. I have always used Androids. That part is a bit frustrating for me. > > I have been messing with it (ForeFlight) a little each night. I am just using the 30 day trial right now. I'll pay to subscribe when that runs out. I am wondering if my GPS is now unneeded, or will the the Ipad drop its signal in flight at times????? If I can lose the small GPS I have, it will give me some more room in the cockpit. Does anyone have that answer? > > -------- > Scott Liefeld > Flying N11MS since March 1972 > Steel Tube > C-85-12 > Wire Wheels > Brodhead in 1996 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=451502#451502 > > Scott, I have been flying with my Ipad and the internal GPS for some time now. I use foreflight for the app. I have never lost the GPS signal. I do have my Samsung Galaxy 4 with Avare as my backup just in case. Rick Schreiber NX478RS Valparaiso, In


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    Time: 08:44:34 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: slow Piet list
    From: "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>
    Thanks Rick. That's good to know. I could take all the GPS stuff out. My GPS was last updated in about 1999. Sometimes it's not very useful. The great part with ForeFlight is that everything is always current. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=451507#451507


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    Time: 08:53:02 AM PST US
    From: "Boatright, Jeffrey" <jeffboatright@emory.edu>
    Subject: Re: slow Piet list
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    Time: 08:56:31 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: slow Piet list
    From: Marcus Zechini <marcus.zechini@gmail.com>
    I started out using Foreflight. Coughed up big $$$ for iPad. Switched to FlyQ to save $$$. Wish I hadnt. Gave iPad to wife, got Android tablet and Garmin Pilot . Foreflight still best. And can't use cheap homemade ADS-B antenna with Garmin, can with Foreflight. On Dec 30, 2015 11:46 AM, "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org> wrote: > Scott.liefeld@lacity.org> > > Thanks Rick. > > That's good to know. I could take all the GPS stuff out. My GPS was last > updated in about 1999. Sometimes it's not very useful. The great part with > ForeFlight is that everything is always current. > > -------- > Scott Liefeld > Flying N11MS since March 1972 > Steel Tube > C-85-12 > Wire Wheels > Brodhead in 1996 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=451507#451507 > >


    Message 13


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    Time: 09:00:36 AM PST US
    From: woodflier <woodflier@aol.com>
    Subject: Re: Slow list and tablets in the cockpit
    I hear great things about ForeFlight. I have had good results from using an app called Naviator on an Android tablet. It allows download of all sectionals and uses the internal GPS in the tablet. Weather is overlaid and obtained via the 4G connection in the tablet, which at Pietenpol altitudes, usually works. Of course, there's a big hole in 4G coverage over West Virginia and in some other more remote areas. I think I pay $39 a year for the service. The system got me from Virginia to Brodhead and Oshkosh and back last year. My big issue is that running the Naviator app and the 4G weather is a real power hog on the tablet. A wintertime project is going to be mounting a battery box on the firewall and installing a 12 volt battery and a cigarette lighter plug in the panel to keep the tablet powered up. Sectionals in the cockpit --- go back and watch Those Magnificent Men In Their Flying Machines. Gert Frobe (played Goldfinger) plays a German officer convinced he can learn to fly using the manual, and watching him, especially when the book blows away in the slipstream, reminds me of every time I've tried to fold a sectional in flight in the Piet. However, I have used the online SkySectionals service, which allows you to download sectionals in printable 8.5X11 sheets. I've downloaded the appropriate sectionals and the tiles I needed for a trip and then used one of those inexpensive 3M laminators and laminated two pages back to back and kept those as backups. They are stiff enough not to flutter around and with two pages per lamination, not too many sheets to keep track of except on a long trip. Matt Paxton Pietenpol NX629ML Fairfield, VA


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    Time: 09:01:22 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: slow Piet list
    From: "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>
    Jeff, Interesting mount. Do you have it attached to your panel? Do you find that you have any problems with glare in the Piet? -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=451511#451511


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    Time: 09:21:21 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: slow Piet list
    From: Fastnaught John <fastnaught@windstream.net>
    Hello Scott, I have been using an iPad mini since Feb. and with Foreflight. I have not had a minutes worth of trouble with either. I use a kneepad and it works just fine. There are mounts to be had for the iPad to install. I dont have any room for the mount. I have found that the kneepad suites me just fine. No need for any other GPS. Good Luck Jack Fastnaught Wire wheels Model A solar panel > On Dec 30, 2015, at 10:28 AM, AircamperN11MS <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org> wrote: > > > Jeff, > > I got the Ipad Mini4. It is about the same physical size that a folded up chart is. I need to now fashion a way to mount it in the plane. I don't really like flying with knee boards. I have some ideas I'm going to try. Hope it works. I am still trying to understand the Microsoft OS. I have always used Androids. That part is a bit frustrating for me. > > I have been messing with it (ForeFlight) a little each night. I am just using the 30 day trial right now. I'll pay to subscribe when that runs out. I am wondering if my GPS is now unneeded, or will the the Ipad drop its signal in flight at times????? If I can lose the small GPS I have, it will give me some more room in the cockpit. Does anyone have that answer? > > -------- > Scott Liefeld > Flying N11MS since March 1972 > Steel Tube > C-85-12 > Wire Wheels > Brodhead in 1996 > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=451502#451502 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 09:28:39 AM PST US
    From: "Boatright, Jeffrey" <jeffboatright@emory.edu>
    Subject: Re: slow Piet list
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    Time: 09:29:06 AM PST US
    From: "Boatright, Jeffrey" <jeffboatright@emory.edu>
    Subject: Re: slow Piet list
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    Time: 11:14:31 AM PST US
    From: Steven Dortch <steven.d.dortch@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: slow Piet list
    I have been using the Anywhere map freedom. http://store.controlvision.com/ I am using a Samsung Galaxy Tab II 7 inch mini tablet. So far no problems, though I have not used it in an open cockpit yet. The also offer an app. Foreflight is more accepted. On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 11:20 AM, Fastnaught John <fastnaught@windstream.ne t > wrote: > fastnaught@windstream.net> > > Hello Scott, > I have been using an iPad mini since Feb. and with Foreflight. I have not > had a minutes worth of trouble with either. I use a kneepad and it works > just fine. There are mounts to be had for the iPad to install. I don =99t have > any room for the mount. I have found that the kneepad suites me just fine . > No need for any other GPS. Good Luck > > Jack Fastnaught > > Wire wheels > Model A > solar panel > > On Dec 30, 2015, at 10:28 AM, AircamperN11MS <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org> > wrote: > > > Scott.liefeld@lacity.org> > > > > Jeff, > > > > I got the Ipad Mini4. It is about the same physical size that a folded > up chart is. I need to now fashion a way to mount it in the plane. I > don't really like flying with knee boards. I have some ideas I'm going t o > try. Hope it works. I am still trying to understand the Microsoft OS. I > have always used Androids. That part is a bit frustrating for me. > > > > I have been messing with it (ForeFlight) a little each night. I am just > using the 30 day trial right now. I'll pay to subscribe when that runs > out. I am wondering if my GPS is now unneeded, or will the the Ipad drop > its signal in flight at times????? If I can lose the small GPS I have, i t > will give me some more room in the cockpit. Does anyone have that answer? > > > > -------- > > Scott Liefeld > > Flying N11MS since March 1972 > > Steel Tube > > C-85-12 > > Wire Wheels > > Brodhead in 1996 > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=451502#451502 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > =========== =========== =========== =========== =========== > > -- Blue Skies, Steve D


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    Time: 12:10:40 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: slow Piet list
    From: "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>
    This is all very good conversation. I didn't realize just how archaic I am when it comes to the flying technologies I use. I really thought I was ahead of the Piet crowd by using the old Garmin GPS from the 1990's. I have only been fooling myself. Geesh, I must get out more. -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=451524#451524


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    Time: 12:40:13 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: slow Piet list
    From: Richard Schreiber <lmforge@earthlink.net>
    Marcus, the homemade ADS-B not only works with Foreflight on the Ipad but also with Wing-X Pro. Here is a listing of the supported systems.... EFB platform support Status Details FlyQ EFB (Seattle Avionics) 2.1+ (iOS) All currently-supported features tested. Naviator (Android) All currently-supported features tested. AvNav 2.0.0+ (Android) All currently-supported features tested. ForeFlight 7.x (iOS) All currently-supported features tested. WingX (iOS, Android) All currently-supported features tested. Avare EFB (Android) All currently-supported features tested. <https://www.reddit.com/r/stratux/comments/3hi2ub/stratux_google_nexus_7_2013_fltplan_go_and_avare/> FltPlan Go (Android) Weather works, traffic does not. <https://www.reddit.com/r/stratux/comments/3hi2ub/stratux_google_nexus_7_2013_fltplan_go_and_avare/> DroidEFB All currently-supported features tested. <https://www.reddit.com/r/stratux/comments/3ptjgr/droidefb_and_avare/> For those interested, I have seen this system work and work it does. You wind up getting ADS-B in for around $110 and 10 or 15 minutes of your time. It runs off of an independent battery with enough power for a whole days flying. It links to your receiver/smart phone or tablet through WiFi. The entire receiver is small and could easily be put in your hat box storage area. I just bought the parts to put one together and they just arrived. There was a recent article about this in a recent Sport Aviation issue. Here is a link with more information www.stratux.me Rick Schreiber NX478RS Valparaiso, IN On 12/30/2015 10:56 AM, Marcus Zechini wrote: > > I started out using Foreflight. Coughed up big $$$ for iPad. Switched > to FlyQ to save $$$. Wish I hadnt. Gave iPad to wife, got Android > tablet and Garmin Pilot . Foreflight still best. And can't use cheap > homemade ADS-B antenna with Garmin, can with Foreflight. > > On Dec 30, 2015 11:46 AM, "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org > <mailto:Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>> wrote: > > <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org <mailto:Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>> > > Thanks Rick. > > That's good to know. I could take all the GPS stuff out. My GPS > was last updated in about 1999. Sometimes it's not very useful. > The great part with ForeFlight is that everything is always current. > > -------- > Scott Liefeld > Flying N11MS since March 1972 > Steel Tube > C-85-12 > Wire Wheels > Brodhead in 1996 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=451507#451507 > > > ========== > br> fts!) > r> > w.buildersbooks.com" rel="noreferrer" > target="_blank">www.buildersbooks.com > rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > ========== > br> enpol-List" rel="noreferrer" > target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List > ========== > FORUMS - > eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > b Site - > -Matt Dralle, List Admin. > rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > >


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    Time: 12:47:01 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: slow Piet list
    From: Marcus Zechini <marcus.zechini@gmail.com>
    Thanks, I downloaded Avare and have setup, just need to test. Yes, cheap and easy, good instructions! On Dec 30, 2015 3:43 PM, "Richard Schreiber" <lmforge@earthlink.net> wrote: > Marcus, the homemade ADS-B not only works with Foreflight on the Ipad but > also with Wing-X Pro. > Here is a listing of the supported systems.... > > EFB platform support Status Details FlyQ EFB (Seattle Avionics) 2.1+ (iOS ) > =9C=85 All currently-supported features tested. Naviator (Android) =9C=85 All > currently-supported features tested. AvNav 2.0.0+ (Android) =9C=85 All > currently-supported features tested. ForeFlight 7.x (iOS) =9C=85 All > currently-supported features tested. WingX (iOS, Android) =9C=85 All > currently-supported features tested. Avare EFB (Android) =9C=85 All > currently-supported features tested. > <https://www.reddit.com/r/stratux/comments/3hi2ub/stratux_google_nexus_7_ 2013_fltplan_go_and_avare/> FltPlan > Go (Android) =F0=9F=9A=A7 Weather works, traffic does not. > <https://www.reddit.com/r/stratux/comments/3hi2ub/stratux_google_nexus_7_ 2013_fltplan_go_and_avare/> > DroidEFB =9C=85 All currently-supported features tested. > <https://www.reddit.com/r/stratux/comments/3ptjgr/droidefb_and_avare/> > For those interested, I have seen this system work and work it does. You > wind up getting ADS-B in for around $110 and 10 or 15 minutes of your tim e. > It runs off of an independent battery with enough power for a whole days > flying. It links to your receiver/smart phone or tablet through WiFi. The > entire receiver is small and could easily be put in your hat box storage > area. I just bought the parts to put one together and they just arrived. > There was a recent article about this in a recent Sport Aviation issue. > > Here is a link with more information www.stratux.me > > Rick Schreiber > NX478RS > Valparaiso, IN > > On 12/30/2015 10:56 AM, Marcus Zechini wrote: > > I started out using Foreflight. Coughed up big $$$ for iPad. Switched to > FlyQ to save $$$. Wish I hadnt. Gave iPad to wife, got Android tablet and > Garmin Pilot . Foreflight still best. And can't use cheap homemade ADS-B > antenna with Garmin, can with Foreflight. > On Dec 30, 2015 11:46 AM, "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org> > wrote: > >> Scott.liefeld@lacity.org> >> >> Thanks Rick. >> >> That's good to know. I could take all the GPS stuff out. My GPS was >> last updated in about 1999. Sometimes it's not very useful. The great p art >> with ForeFlight is that everything is always current. >> >> -------- >> Scott Liefeld >> Flying N11MS since March 1972 >> Steel Tube >> C-85-12 >> Wire Wheels >> Brodhead in 1996 >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=451507#451507 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ========== >> br> fts!) >> r> > w.buildersbooks.com" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"> >> www.buildersbooks.com >> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contributi on >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> ========== >> br> enpol-List" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank"> >> http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Pietenpol-List >> ========== >> FORUMS - >> eferrer" target="_blank">http://forums.matronics.com >> ========== >> b Site - >> -Matt Dralle, List Admin. >> rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contributi on >> ========== >> >> >> >> >


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    Time: 04:11:33 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: slow Piet list
    From: "Charles N. Campbell" <charlescampbell1924@gmail.com>
    What, pay tell, is a yurt? On Wed, Dec 30, 2015 at 10:04 AM, wheelharp <wheelharp@gmail.com> wrote: > > that's a bummer... > > Would code allow (and would you have room) for a yurt? I have heard some > folks that have been restricted by building code have built pretty nice > yurts for a shop. Getting the canvas UV resistant shouldn't be any problem > for a stick and rag airplane guy ; ) > > -------- > Jon Jones > Ironton, MO > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=451497#451497 > >


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    Time: 07:51:13 PM PST US
    Subject: tail hinges
    From: "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com>
    Jon asked- >I guess you cast the hinge pieces...what kind of setup do you use >as far as type of foundry, do you use sand or some other type mold, etc? Rather than continue this in the 'slow Piet list' thread, I put this into a new subject line. Jon, I'm supposed to be making and selling sets of tail hinges but I now have a waiting list of over a dozen builders, most of whom have probably given up on me and gone a different route with their hinges, but 2015 has overwhelmed me with work and I figure the good times can't last forever, I'm turning 65 in July, and I'd better work while the work is available. So, I've had no summers off, no vacations, very little weekend or holiday time, just work. Not complaining, but it's keeping me from building, flying, and making tail hinges. As soon as I get a free weekend I'll dig out the mess and try to turn out a few sets of hinges and start working on the backlog. To answer your question, the rough castings are sand cast by a foundry here in the good ol' US of A, the same supplier that Vi Kapler used to make the same hinges that I am supposed to be making and selling. Vi sold me his simple tools and jigs shortly before he died, so I make them the same way he did. The parts are pretty simple and durable, and I load-tested the latest batch of castings to prove to myself that they were as good as the ones that Vi had been selling. Here's a little webpage showing the test methodology and results: http://www.flysquirrel.net/loadtest.html . The test bench and work area in the pictures on that webpage are presently under a tangle of twisted tubing, ripped canopy material, snow, dirt, and who knows what else. You can also see the nearly-complete hinge parts at the bottom of this page: http://www.flysquirrel.net/rogueairparts.html -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC &quot;Scout&quot; A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=451541#451541


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    Time: 09:26:26 PM PST US
    From: Ray Krause <raykrause@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: tail hinges
    Oscar, Do you still have some of the name plates? I would like two of each. My SkyScout is in the final stages of assembly. Registration is in progress, then Airworthiness. Engine goes on this week. Ray Krause Sent from my iPad > On Dec 30, 2015, at 7:50 PM, taildrags <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote: > > > Jon asked- > >> I guess you cast the hinge pieces...what kind of setup do you use >> as far as type of foundry, do you use sand or some other type mold, etc? > > Rather than continue this in the 'slow Piet list' thread, I put this into a new subject line. Jon, I'm supposed to be making and selling sets of tail hinges but I now have a waiting list of over a dozen builders, most of whom have probably given up on me and gone a different route with their hinges, but 2015 has overwhelmed me with work and I figure the good times can't last forever, I'm turning 65 in July, and I'd better work while the work is available. So, I've had no summers off, no vacations, very little weekend or holiday time, just work. Not complaining, but it's keeping me from building, flying, and making tail hinges. As soon as I get a free weekend I'll dig out the mess and try to turn out a few sets of hinges and start working on the backlog. > > To answer your question, the rough castings are sand cast by a foundry here in the good ol' US of A, the same supplier that Vi Kapler used to make the same hinges that I am supposed to be making and selling. Vi sold me his simple tools and jigs shortly before he died, so I make them the same way he did. The parts are pretty simple and durable, and I load-tested the latest batch of castings to prove to myself that they were as good as the ones that Vi had been selling. Here's a little webpage showing the test methodology and results: http://www.flysquirrel.net/loadtest.html . The test bench and work area in the pictures on that webpage are presently under a tangle of twisted tubing, ripped canopy material, snow, dirt, and who knows what else. You can also see the nearly-complete hinge parts at the bottom of this page: http://www.flysquirrel.net/rogueairparts.html > > -------- > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, OR > Air Camper NX41CC &quot;Scout&quot; > A75 power > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=451541#451541 > > > > > > > > > >


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    Time: 11:28:54 PM PST US
    From: "Clif Dawson" <cdawson5854@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: slow Piet list
    How about a surplus container? https://www.google.ca/?gws_rd=ssl#q=containers+for+sale Also my canopy lasted for many years. I went through green,silver,white and finaly, the best of all, almond coloured tarps. I did have to keep track of the snow though. With the steep 45 angle on the roof I just had to go underneath with a broom and poke away with the bristles. Voila, off slid the snow! http://www.clifdawson.ca/Homepage4-10-06/Pietenpol5.html A somewhat more expensive version of the same thing is a tarp garage. Clif I just need an enclosed, permanent shop but our building restrictions won't permit it. > > -------- > Oscar Zuniga


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    Time: 11:28:55 PM PST US
    From: "Clif Dawson" <cdawson5854@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: slow Piet list
    Everything you could possibly want to know! :-) https://www.google.ca/?gws_rd=ssl#q=yurt What, pay tell, is a yurt? Would code allow (and would you have room) for a yurt? I have heard some folks that have been restricted by building code have built pretty nice yurts for a shop.




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