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     1. 06:03 AM - Happy new year and snowy r/c Piet (M W Stanley)
     2. 06:09 AM - GPS (Douwe Blumberg)
     3. 08:39 AM - Re: GPS (AircamperN11MS)
     4. 08:55 AM - Re: GPS (Steven Dortch)
     5. 09:34 AM - New Year (oldbird)
     6. 05:25 PM - Fw: AeroElectric-List: Fw: Fw: Matt Dralle (list admin) (Jack)
     7. 09:28 PM - Re: Fw: AeroElectric-List: Fw: Fw: Matt Dralle (list admin) (taildrags)
     8. 09:52 PM - Re: GPS (taildrags)
     9. 10:32 PM - Re: Re: GPS (Boatright, Jeffrey)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Happy new year and snowy r/c Piet | 
      
      Hi Pieters,
      
      I have to go away for a few days but since the list is fairly quiet, I 
      just want to wish a happy and safe new year (and the rest of the year!) 
      to everybody on the list even though I am a fraction early saying so.
      Also, since there is some snow around some places, I thought I would 
      post a pic from last year of my little r/c Piet on it's skis.
      The Piet is now a bit over 14 years old and is still getting flown most 
      weekends. Like most Piets, it is very long lived and fly's just great!
      
      Cheers to you all from Japan.
      Mark S
      
      
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      Hey Scott,
      
      
      I used to attach my Garmin to a mount that (with a slight wooden adaptor
      piece) clamped onto the top longeron in the cockpit.  It would put the
      Garmin up front on the right, just over the coaming and really worked well.
      Can't remember the company's name that made the mount, but it's the big one
      that everyone uses.  They make like a million styles.
      
      
      On my long flights, I started with the garmin 196 gps, and foreflight on my
      iphone as a backup and a chart as a back-backup.  After two 196's puked out,
      and a couple years using the iphone, the Garmin went away and the iphone is
      the main GPS.  I made a little sheet metal bracket that slips under the
      coaming stitching right in front of me so the iphone is right in front of my
      face.  The chart is folded away as backup.
      
      
      Three years now, never had foreflight puke out on the iphone.  I HAVE lost
      the WX capability because that is still tower based.
      
      
      By the way, where is your plane based? It think I might be driving past you
      on my way from KY to L.A. next week.
      
      
      Douwe
      
      
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      Douwe,
      
      I live in Quartz hill and I have the plane at Fox Field in Lancaster.  Just 4.8
      sm from front door to the hangar door.  I would love to meet you if we have the
      chance.  I do work in LA.  Just below Dodger stadium. Here is my Cell if you
      want to call.  661-400-1876 
      
      I think I am going to throw the old GPS overboard in the near future. :)
      
      --------
      Scott Liefeld
      Flying N11MS since March 1972
      Steel Tube
      C-85-12
      Wire Wheels
      Brodhead in 1996
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=451572#451572
      
      
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      On the CSOB side:
      
      I have used an old 4 inch garmin automobile GPS as backup to my map skills
      with VORs. It has most airports and I set it to off-road. It points to the
      selected airport and has a moving map with all roads, towns and water.
      
      I have also used a cheap Magellan 200 hiking GPS as backup. It also has a
      tiny map, with airports, major roads and big bodies of water. It also has a
      HSI style display that displays heading, bearing, distance and ETA.
      However, it is getting pretty old and freezes up or turns off sometimes.
      
      I set one on map the other on HSI and follow with the sectional, compass
      and VORs.
      
      On the non CSOB side:
      My mini tablet 7 in. Anywhere freedom program  displays a moving sectional,
      alerts me to airspace, can download current weather on the map just before
      flight, alerts me to towers, gives me frequencies, has a quick nearest to
      feature and so on. The lifetime subscription I bought has lifetime
      sectionals and airport info. There is a much cheaper annual subscription.
      Very similar to foreflight and several other programs.
      
      Note, I always follow with a paper sectional or state aviation map. Long
      ago I was young, lazy and  trusted a LORAN that malfunctioned and it got me
      very lost. I found myself, but I don't trust gadgets anymore. I use them
      and follow with the sectional.
      
      Blue skies,
      Steve D
      
      On Dec 31, 2015 8:11 AM, "Douwe Blumberg" <douwe@douwestudios.com> wrote:
      >
      > Hey Scott,
      >
      >
      > I used to attach my Garmin to a mount that (with a slight wooden adaptor
      piece) clamped onto the top longeron in the cockpit.  It would put the
      Garmin up front on the right, just over the coaming and really worked
      well.  Can=99t remember the company=99s name that made the moun
      t, but it=99s the
      big one that everyone uses.  They make like a million styles.
      >
      >
      > On my long flights, I started with the garmin 196 gps, and foreflight on
      my iphone as a backup and a chart as a back-backup.  After two 196=99
      s puked
      out, and a couple years using the iphone, the Garmin went away and the
      iphone is the main GPS.  I made a little sheet metal bracket that slips
      under the coaming stitching right in front of me so the iphone is right in
      front of my face.  The chart is folded away as backup.
      >
      >
      > Three years now, never had foreflight puke out on the iphone.  I HAVE
      lost the WX capability because that is still tower based.
      >
      >
      > By the way, where is your plane based? It think I might be driving past
      you on my way from KY to L.A. next week.
      >
      >
      > Douwe
      
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      Happy new year and merry Christmas to all Pietenpol builders and ex-builders(flyers).
      
      Semih Oksay
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=451579#451579
      
      
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| Subject:  | Fwd: AeroElectric-List: Fwd: Fwd: Matt Dralle (list admin) | 
      
      
      -------- Forwarded Message --------
      Subject: 	AeroElectric-List: Fwd: Fwd: Matt Dralle (list admin)
      From: 	Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
      
      
      Retrying to a single list each time; first attempt at multiple lists 
      seems to have failed.
      
      
      -------- Forwarded Message --------
      Subject: 	Matt Dralle (list admin)
      From: 	Charlie England <ceengland7@gmail.com>
      <aeroelectric-list@matronics.com>, kolb-list@matronics.com
      
      
      Just saw a post on the VAF forum that Matt had a stroke yesterday. The 
      post quoted his facebook page:
      
      /Matt Update: He is responding to comments being made by squeezing 
      Katie's hand and he was able to answer his age by using his one hand. 
      All early indicators are that he is doing ok.
      
      Katie sends her thanks for the prayers and that they are definitely helping.
      /
      Please keep him in your thoughts and prayers, and remember that he won't 
      be able to deal with list maintenance issues for some time.
      
      I'm trying to send this to the RV, aeroelectric, and kolb lists. If 
      you're a member of additional lists, it might be good to pass it on.
      
      Charlie
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Fwd: AeroElectric-List: Fwd: Fwd: Matt Dralle (list | 
      admin)
      
      
      Oh, my.  I certainly hope that Matt pulls through this, and not just for the benefit
      of us who use these lists.  What a way for him to end 2015.
      
      --------
      Oscar Zuniga
      Medford, OR
      Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
      A75 power
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=451603#451603
      
      
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      Douwe: would you mind posting a picture of how you have your iPhone set up directly
      in front of you in the cockpit?  That is just about the right distance for
      me to see something like a map screen clearly while in flight, without having
      to put on reading glasses.  Now if I could just get Siri to understand voice
      commands like, "Siri, get the current ATIS for me and then switch me to Medford
      tower", we'd be in business ;o)  Having to look down to change frequencies
      on my little Icom always seems to result in me looking up to find myself in a
      descending left spiral with increasing airspeed.  Why can't I just fly the airplane
      and forget about the radios??
      
      And Steve, I'm very frugal myself, so I'm always at least one or two generations
      behind in electronics and phones.  I had a hiker/hunter Magellan GPS 2000 after
      they got superseded by the fancier toys and were available brand-new for cheap.
      I flew a 3 hour x-c out across eastern Oregon in a Super Cub with nothing
      but that little gem (and folded sectionals) after I had punched in a direct
      route to where I was going, and it was incredible to be able to read out groundspeed,
      ground track (which helped me determine wind correction angle), elapsed
      time, distance to station, and all that- without trying to use the E6B or anything
      else in the cockpit.  How easily we get spoiled!  Now I have a perfectly
      good Garmin GPSMap 196 that can do everything but mix a perfect martini and
      everybody is saying it's "so yesterday"??!  Having a 196 in the cockpit of an
      Air Camper is like having a Garmin G1000 dual-display glass panel in a Cessna
      150!  The panel can do so much more than the airplane can, that you might as
      well stay home and play with the panel instead of flying an old wood and fabric
      airplane with that thing in front of you ;o)
      
      --------
      Oscar Zuniga
      Medford, OR
      Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
      A75 power
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=451604#451604
      
      
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      Hi Oscar,
      
      I have a different take on the evolution of technology in the cockpit. The dedicated
      aviation GPS units are like other avionics that originated in the steam
      gauge era. They require mental translation into actual and useful guidance. Conversely,
      apps like ForeFlight and WingX were developed from the moving maps mindset.
      They are much more like simply holding a chart in your hand and flying
      by pilotage. Only instead of you trying to follow a line on the chart that you
      drew during preflight prep, the moving map shows you a similar preplanned course
      line PLUS a line or ticker or breadcrumb, etc. that represents how you're
      actually progressing across the ground. These apps are simply electronic vesions
      of your chart, and thus, I argue, are truer to chart-following pilotage than
      the old-thinking, dedicated GPS units.
      
      Or something like that...
      
      
      Jeffrey H. Boatright, PhD, FARVO
      Professor of Ophthalmology
      Emory University School of Medicine
      Sent from an iPad with a spelling problem
      
      > On Jan 1, 2016, at 12:55 AM, "taildrags" <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote:
      >
      >
      > Douwe: would you mind posting a picture of how you have your iPhone set up directly
      in front of you in the cockpit?  That is just about the right distance
      for me to see something like a map screen clearly while in flight, without having
      to put on reading glasses.  Now if I could just get Siri to understand voice
      commands like, "Siri, get the current ATIS for me and then switch me to Medford
      tower", we'd be in business ;o)  Having to look down to change frequencies
      on my little Icom always seems to result in me looking up to find myself in
      a descending left spiral with increasing airspeed.  Why can't I just fly the airplane
      and forget about the radios??
      >
      > And Steve, I'm very frugal myself, so I'm always at least one or two generations
      behind in electronics and phones.  I had a hiker/hunter Magellan GPS 2000
      after they got superseded by the fancier toys and were available brand-new for
      cheap.  I flew a 3 hour x-c out across eastern Oregon in a Super Cub with nothing
      but that little gem (and folded sectionals) after I had punched in a direct
      route to where I was going, and it was incredible to be able to read out groundspeed,
      ground track (which helped me determine wind correction angle), elapsed
      time, distance to station, and all that- without trying to use the E6B or
      anything else in the cockpit.  How easily we get spoiled!  Now I have a perfectly
      good Garmin GPSMap 196 that can do everything but mix a perfect martini and
      everybody is saying it's "so yesterday"??!  Having a 196 in the cockpit of
      an Air Camper is like having a Garmin G1000 dual-display glass panel in a Cessna
      150!  The panel can do so much more than the airpla!
      > ne can, that you might as well stay home and play with the panel instead of flying
      an old wood and fabric airplane with that thing in front of you ;o)
      >
      > --------
      > Oscar Zuniga
      > Medford, OR
      > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
      > A75 power
      >
      >
      > Read this topic online here:
      >
      > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=451604#451604
      >
      >
      
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