---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Thu 02/04/16: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:36 AM - Re: New member (Charles N. Campbell) 2. 11:38 AM - spoke wheel covers on Spirit of St' Louis (wheelharp) 3. 02:25 PM - Re: New member (taildrags) 4. 02:31 PM - New member (MacBook Pro) 5. 11:35 PM - Re: spoke wheel covers on Spirit of St' Louis (Clif Dawson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:36:54 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: New member From: "Charles N. Campbell" Also, I highly recommend building the wing up side down. That way gravity will pull the ribs down so that the lower stringer of the rib(s) is firmly against the spars. Chuck On Thu, Feb 4, 2016 at 2:22 AM, CatDesigns wrote: > Welcome David > > > Q1: Yes, put gussets on all joints. The joints will be very weak without > them and would likely break with just the vibration. > > > Q2: Gluing and chamfering is the easiest. I cut a recess into the leadin g > edge using a table saw. Someplace I have a drawing of how I cut the leadi ng > edge. > > > Q3: I used the tongue and groove method. Very easy. Looks good too. > > > Q4: I glued the ribs to the wing spar because I was concerned with the > nails backing out over time. See I had heard that Aeronca=99s have had > trouble with nails backing out and people have had to put access panels in > the wings to fix them. That being said, I now say nail them on after > someone I know damaged a spar in his Air Camper and was able to slide ou t > the bad one and slide in a new one all because he only nail the ribs on. > > > My wing building pictures > http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Chris_Tracy/Index.html > > > You=99re not the only Tasmanian Pietenpol. > > > Chris > > Sacramento, CA > > WestcoastPiet.com > > > *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *MacBook Pro > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 3, 2016 2:30 PM > *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: New member > > > Hi. My name is David and I have been a lurker of this site for almost tw o > years, during which time I have purchased plans, collected materials and > completed the wing ribs. I live in Launceston, Tasmania, Australia. I hav e > browsed the forum archives extensively (it=99s not the easiest data base to > search). > > I greatly appreciate the sage advice shared by those who frequent the sit e. > > I am working with Douglas fir (we call it Oregon pine) and have found fou r > Model A Ford engines from which I should be able to make one really good > one. In Australia spruce boards and Corvair engines are as scarce as > rocking-horse manure. > > I have some questions: Firstly, the wing rib plans show extra sticks in > the two end ribs. There are no gussets shown for some of the joins. I =99ve > put them in but am interested to know what others have done. > > Secondly, I am interested in how others have actually attached the leadin g > edge ply covering. Am I correct in thinking this is just glued and > chamfered to take out sharp edges? > > Thirdly, the trailing edge gives two alternatives, top and bottom plates > or tongue and groove. Either one better than the other? > > Lastly, I seem to recollect that some posters have recommended not gluing > the ribs to the spars (in case of having to replace them at some stage) a nd > I note that the plans only mentioning nailing. Glue and nail or nail only ? > I plan to varnish the ribs soon and don=99t want to get varnish whe re it may > stop glue from =98taking=99. > > Cheers from =98way Down Under=99. > > David Boarder > > > Pietenpol-list@matrionics.com > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 11:38:48 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: spoke wheel covers on Spirit of St' Louis From: "wheelharp" I recently watched Jimmy Stewart's Spirit of St. Louis movie (great movie with a very good build sequence by the way) and never noticed the wheel covers before then. They appear to be laced together with some type of wrap going around the tire. I know there has been discussion in the past about smooth tires for Piets, and I wonder if this was a common wheel/tire practice back in the day? I guess the tire "wrap", whatever it is, would be more aggravation and probably money than just forking over $$$ from smooth tires from Coker tire. I doubt they would take too many paved landings either. I personally don't care if my tires are smooth or not....just an observation :) -------- Jon Jones Ironton, MO Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=452609#452609 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/sosl_tire_878.jpg ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:25:07 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New member From: "taildrags" If you lace the ribs like the covering method calls for, I wouldn't think the ribs are going anywhere, nailed or glued. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=452611#452611 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:31:03 PM PST US From: MacBook Pro Subject: Pietenpol-List: New member Friends, Thanks for the welcome and advice. Much appreciated. Peter, after I purchased the plans from Andrew Pietenpol, I contacted Jim Wills by phone in the UK as I believed his plans were supplementary. This is not the case and after I told him I was using an A Ford engine he politely declined to supply his plans on safety grounds. I regularly visit your site, amongst many others, for answers. I live a stone=92s throw from Simon McCormack whom I have contacted and viewed his beautifully crafted plane (photos are at the Westcoastpiet site). On that note, many thanks to those who share close-up photos of their builds. These help enormously. Pictures worth a thousand words. At present working on the motor , and ready to start empennage or fuselage. Head down. Back to it. (Hope I=92m doing this forum posting thing correctly) David. *Do not archive* David Boarder dboarder@internode.on.net Ford A motor Douglas fir ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:35:07 PM PST US From: "Clif Dawson" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: spoke wheel covers on Spirit of St' Louis Here's a pic of aluminum wheel cover attachment on a previous Ryan. I like this one. Clif Did you know that no man, or woman for that matter, has ever gone into a hardware store wanting a drill bit. What they really wanted was a hole. > I recently watched Jimmy Stewart's Spirit of St. Louis movie (great movie > with a very good build sequence by the way) and never noticed the wheel > covers before then. They appear to be laced together with some type of > wrap going around the tire. > -------- > Jon Jones > Ironton, MO > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/sosl_tire_878.jpg ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.