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1. 04:21 AM - Control Stick Movements (tonyp51qa)
2. 01:45 PM - Re: gussets grain orientation - empenage (rudder,fin,elevator,st (Pocono John)
3. 01:56 PM - Re: Gusset plywood grain orientation (Pocono John)
4. 03:36 PM - Re: Pietenpol on floats ? (CatDesigns)
5. 03:53 PM - Re: Control Stick Movements (CatDesigns)
6. 04:11 PM - Re: Control Stick Movements (CatDesigns)
7. 04:19 PM - Re: Control Stick Movements (CatDesigns)
8. 06:50 PM - Re: Control Stick Movements (Ray Krause)
9. 07:35 PM - Corvair College 36 - San Marcos, TX, 1-3 April 2016 (kevinpurtee)
10. 07:54 PM - Re: Control Stick Movements (CatDesigns)
11. 09:47 PM - Re: Corvair College 36 - San Marcos, TX, 1-3 April 2016 (taildrags)
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| Subject: | Control Stick Movements |
I have the torque tube, control sticks and the rudder bar installed. I am concerned
with the movement of my {PILOTS} stick fore and aft {elevator}. And especially
left and right{ailerons}. I need to know the degree of deflection of elevator
in degrees [up and down]. I also need to know how much stick deflection
is needed to move my ailerons. Since my Piet is built per plans, the control rod
that ties the two sticks together has caused a lesser movement going to the
left.{this control rod hits the seat back "V" cutout} This limits the stick deflection
going fully to the left}. My control stick also hits the seat back
at 24 degrees and goes back 30 plus degrees. At present I do not have any cables
installed yet. Thank You!
Tony
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| Subject: | Re: gussets grain orientation - empenage (rudder,fin,elevator,st |
If you don't have them, try to get copies of Tony Bingelis books, especially "Sportplane
Construction and Techniques", and "The Sportplane Builder". He addresses
many issues, including gussets.
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John
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| Subject: | Re: Gusset plywood grain orientation |
Wonder what Tony Bingelis has to say. My books are in the garage at the moment,
but I find many answers in his books.
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| Subject: | Pietenpol on floats ? |
Its Shawn Wolk (CF-RAZ).
http://www.westcoastpiet.com/images/Shawn%20Wolk%20CF-RAZ/pictures.htm
I believe it's one of the oldest flying Pietenpols. Originally built in 37
if I recall correctly and it was in a movie once.
Shawn talking about his floats in the list archives
http://www.matronics.com/searching/getmsg_script.cgi?INDEX=34082464?KEYS=wol
k_&_floats?LISTNAME=Pietenpol?HITNUMBER=6?SERIAL=1053364489?SHOWBUTTONS=YES
you could always take a shot that his email address hasn't changed.
Chris
Sacramento, CA
WestcoastPiet.com
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[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of piperj3
Sent: Saturday, February 6, 2016 9:11 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol on floats ?
Hi.
Would anyone know the owner of a yellow piet with green tail on yellow full
lotus floats ?
I'd like to talk with the owner about doing the same thing.
Thanks
Bob
715-851-9441[/b]
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| Subject: | Control Stick Movements |
Does this discussion help?
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=416457
The deflections mentioned sound about right. Somewhere I have another
sketch of the deflections but I can't find it right now.
Chris
Sacramento, CA
WestcoastPiet.com
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of tonyp51qa
Sent: Sunday, February 7, 2016 4:21 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Control Stick Movements
I have the torque tube, control sticks and the rudder bar installed. I am
concerned with the movement of my {PILOTS} stick fore and aft {elevator}.
And especially left and right{ailerons}. I need to know the degree of
deflection of elevator in degrees [up and down]. I also need to know how
much stick deflection is needed to move my ailerons. Since my Piet is built
per plans, the control rod that ties the two sticks together has caused a
lesser movement going to the left.{this control rod hits the seat back "V"
cutout} This limits the stick deflection going fully to the left}. My
control stick also hits the seat back at 24 degrees and goes back 30 plus
degrees. At present I do not have any cables installed yet. Thank You!
Tony
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Tony Crawford
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| Subject: | Control Stick Movements |
One thing you can do to gain a little more left stick is to flatten the end
of the connector tubing off center. This will allow you to bias the tubing
closer to the centerline of the sticks. I have heard that it will hit your
leg before it hits the V-brace.
Chris
Sacramento, CA
WestcoastPiet.com
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of tonyp51qa
Sent: Sunday, February 7, 2016 4:21 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Control Stick Movements
I have the torque tube, control sticks and the rudder bar installed. I am
concerned with the movement of my {PILOTS} stick fore and aft {elevator}.
And especially left and right{ailerons}. I need to know the degree of
deflection of elevator in degrees [up and down]. I also need to know how
much stick deflection is needed to move my ailerons. Since my Piet is built
per plans, the control rod that ties the two sticks together has caused a
lesser movement going to the left.{this control rod hits the seat back "V"
cutout} This limits the stick deflection going fully to the left}. My
control stick also hits the seat back at 24 degrees and goes back 30 plus
degrees. At present I do not have any cables installed yet. Thank You!
Tony
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Tony Crawford
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| Subject: | Control Stick Movements |
Mike Cuy shows 10-inch up and 7.5-inch down elevator movement.
http://westcoastpiet.com/images/Mike_Cuy/Image/Piet%20elevator%20travel%20sk
etch.jpg
Chris
Sacramento, CA
WestcoastPiet.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of tonyp51qa
Sent: Sunday, February 7, 2016 4:21 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Control Stick Movements
I have the torque tube, control sticks and the rudder bar installed. I am
concerned with the movement of my {PILOTS} stick fore and aft {elevator}.
And especially left and right{ailerons}. I need to know the degree of
deflection of elevator in degrees [up and down]. I also need to know how
much stick deflection is needed to move my ailerons. Since my Piet is built
per plans, the control rod that ties the two sticks together has caused a
lesser movement going to the left.{this control rod hits the seat back "V"
cutout} This limits the stick deflection going fully to the left}. My
control stick also hits the seat back at 24 degrees and goes back 30 plus
degrees. At present I do not have any cables installed yet. Thank You!
Tony
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Tony Crawford
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| Subject: | Re: Control Stick Movements |
Chris,
Is the angle measured from the top of the wing as "level"?
Thanks,
Ray Krause
Sent from my iPad
> On Feb 7, 2016, at 3:53 PM, CatDesigns <CatDesigns@att.net> wrote:
>
>
> Does this discussion help?
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=416457
>
> The deflections mentioned sound about right. Somewhere I have another
> sketch of the deflections but I can't find it right now.
>
> Chris
> Sacramento, CA
> WestcoastPiet.com
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of tonyp51qa
> Sent: Sunday, February 7, 2016 4:21 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Control Stick Movements
>
>
> I have the torque tube, control sticks and the rudder bar installed. I am
> concerned with the movement of my {PILOTS} stick fore and aft {elevator}.
> And especially left and right{ailerons}. I need to know the degree of
> deflection of elevator in degrees [up and down]. I also need to know how
> much stick deflection is needed to move my ailerons. Since my Piet is built
> per plans, the control rod that ties the two sticks together has caused a
> lesser movement going to the left.{this control rod hits the seat back "V"
> cutout} This limits the stick deflection going fully to the left}. My
> control stick also hits the seat back at 24 degrees and goes back 30 plus
> degrees. At present I do not have any cables installed yet. Thank You!
>
> Tony
>
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> Tony Crawford
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> Read this topic online here:
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| Subject: | Corvair College 36 - San Marcos, TX, 1-3 April 2016 |
Friends - Please come join us. Here's the registration link:
https://corviarcollegeregistration.wufoo.com/forms/cc36/
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Kevin "Axel" Purtee
Rebuilding NX899KP
Austin/San Marcos, TX
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| Subject: | Control Stick Movements |
Ray
I believe it is measured at the bottom of the trailing edge with the aileron
level with the bottom of the wing, i.e. in the neutral position. Then
measure the angle (at the trailing edge) at full up or down.
Chris
Sacramento, CA
WestcoastPiet.com
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From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ray Krause
Sent: Sunday, February 7, 2016 6:50 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Control Stick Movements
--> <raykrause@frontiernet.net>
Chris,
Is the angle measured from the top of the wing as "level"?
Thanks,
Ray Krause
Sent from my iPad
> On Feb 7, 2016, at 3:53 PM, CatDesigns <CatDesigns@att.net> wrote:
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> --> <CatDesigns@att.net>
>
> Does this discussion help?
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=416457
>
> The deflections mentioned sound about right. Somewhere I have another
> sketch of the deflections but I can't find it right now.
>
> Chris
> Sacramento, CA
> WestcoastPiet.com
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> tonyp51qa
> Sent: Sunday, February 7, 2016 4:21 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: Control Stick Movements
>
> --> <tonyp51qa@gmail.com>
>
> I have the torque tube, control sticks and the rudder bar installed. I
> am concerned with the movement of my {PILOTS} stick fore and aft
{elevator}.
> And especially left and right{ailerons}. I need to know the degree of
> deflection of elevator in degrees [up and down]. I also need to know
> how much stick deflection is needed to move my ailerons. Since my Piet
> is built per plans, the control rod that ties the two sticks together
> has caused a lesser movement going to the left.{this control rod hits the
seat back "V"
> cutout} This limits the stick deflection going fully to the left}. My
> control stick also hits the seat back at 24 degrees and goes back 30
> plus degrees. At present I do not have any cables installed yet. Thank
You!
>
> Tony
>
> --------
> Tony Crawford
>
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>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=452656#452656
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| Subject: | Re: Corvair College 36 - San Marcos, TX, 1-3 April 2016 |
Axel- only on one condition: that you either correct the spelling in the event
registration weblink to "Corvair", or else serve some prime Detroit "corviar"
on crackers at the event ;o)
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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