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1. 06:46 AM - Re: Pauls Piet Build (jarheadpilot82)
2. 07:24 AM - Re: Pauls Piet Build (nightmare)
3. 07:27 AM - Re: Pauls Piet Build (jarheadpilot82)
4. 09:09 AM - Re: Pauls Piet Build (taildrags)
5. 09:32 AM - Re: Pauls Piet Build (AircamperN11MS)
6. 01:57 PM - Re: Pauls Piet Build (nightmare)
7. 02:13 PM - Re: Pauls Piet Build (AircamperN11MS)
8. 05:36 PM - Re: Pauls Piet Build (nightmare)
9. 06:11 PM - Re: Re: Pauls Piet Build (Ray Krause)
10. 08:32 PM - Re: Pauls Piet Build (AircamperN11MS)
11. 08:38 PM - Re: Pauls Piet Build (AircamperN11MS)
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| Subject: | Re: Pauls Piet Build |
Paul,
Nice work. The only question I have is about vertical stab offset. Here is a link
to an earlier discussion of the topic, so you will understand what I am getting
at-
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=92890&highlight=vertoffset
It appears that you may have some offset already built in, but you do not have
the ability to adjust your vertical stabilizer (see screenshot). Did you already
put in some offset, and, if so, how much? How do you plan to adjust it if it
is too much/not enough?
Like I said, really nice work. Just that question.
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
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| Subject: | Re: Pauls Piet Build |
Hey Terry. its about 3/4 offset I think. there is about 1/4 inch additional wiggle
room. need to break out the sander if even more is required.
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Paul Donahue
Started 8-3-12
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| Subject: | Re: Pauls Piet Build |
Paul,
Thanks for the explanation.
Your woodworking skills make me look like piker. I think you are the cabinet maker
on the job site and I am just the framer's assistant, not even the framer.
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
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| Subject: | Re: Pauls Piet Build |
Scott: nice little sketch of how to do the run-around loop. If a builder installs
a belly access panel like Corky did on 41CC, and if the run-around loop is
run either behind the pilot's seat or just aft of the belly panel, it will make
inspection and installation of the run-around cable and pulleys much easier.
I know the panel really helps when working on or inspecting the elevator bellcrank
back there.
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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| Subject: | Re: Pauls Piet Build |
Oscar,
All your points are good ones too. Easy access is always a good thing. Especially
if you can't see it from the top or sides of the plane.
Thank you,
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | Re: Pauls Piet Build |
thanks Terry.
Scott , im definitely installing a turnaround pulley but was just curious, where
is the weak link in the control horn? does it end up bending down because of
the angle the the cable is pulling on it?
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Paul Donahue
Started 8-3-12
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| Subject: | Re: Pauls Piet Build |
Paul,
I have seen it bend similar to your description and I have seen the spar where
it is attached incur damage as well. The french valley piet received damage after
they converted to rudder peddles. When I made the first flight on that plan
it had a rudder bar. Those guys made a heavier control horn to replace the
bent one. I think the cable is the best and easiest way to prevent damage.
On a side note. I have 4130 steel tail surfaces and rudder peddles without any
balance cable. Mine has been fine for 44 years now. No brakes to push on either.
The wood structure is what concerns me when looking at peoples projects.
BTW, I am an EAA Tech Counselor.
Cheers,
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | Re: Pauls Piet Build |
thanks Scott. I was just curious. I definitely don't want to take a chance on that.
I believe I found an easy way to incorporate a couple of pulleys behind the
aft seat. thank you for mentioning it.
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Paul Donahue
Started 8-3-12
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| Subject: | Re: Pauls Piet Build |
Scott,
Since you have no brakes, how do you do a run up? Do you use the "Whoa Stick" regularly?
How is it anchored to the fuselage? You have a steel tube fuselage,
right? Guess the would make the "Whoa Stick" easier to install.
I have installed brakes, but they are just 6" Azusa drum brakes that "might" hold
the 19" wheels for a modest runup? To be seen.
Lots of questions!
Thanks,
Ray Krause
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> On Mar 25, 2016, at 2:13 PM, AircamperN11MS <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org> wrote:
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> I have seen it bend similar to your description and I have seen the spar where
it is attached incur damage as well. The french valley piet received damage
after they converted to rudder peddles. When I made the first flight on that
plan it had a rudder bar. Those guys made a heavier control horn to replace
the bent one. I think the cable is the best and easiest way to prevent damage.
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> On a side note. I have 4130 steel tail surfaces and rudder peddles without any
balance cable. Mine has been fine for 44 years now. No brakes to push on either.
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> The wood structure is what concerns me when looking at peoples projects.
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> BTW, I am an EAA Tech Counselor.
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> Cheers,
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> Scott Liefeld
> Flying N11MS since March 1972
> Steel Tube
> C-85-12
> Wire Wheels
> Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | Re: Pauls Piet Build |
Ray,
Let's see, I rarely use the Whoa Stick. Only if the wind is blowing me somewhere
I don't want to be. I will check my mags during taxi although I can hold the
plane with the Whoa Stick for a 1200RPM run up. I keep the air pressure very
low in my tires to help slow me after landing and during taxi. Ever try to push
a car with flat tires? The stick is attached to the torque tube for my elevator
controls. I will show you how the stick is attached in June.
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | Re: Pauls Piet Build |
Your welcome Paul. I like that we all help each other. It keeps us safe and hopefully
prevents doing the work more than one time.
Cheers,
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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