---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Fri 04/22/16: 8 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 04:20 AM - Re: new builder (Fairfield, Mike) 2. 05:49 AM - Re: New Builder (tools) 3. 06:25 AM - Re: New Builder (JSeitz) 4. 07:01 AM - Re: Re: The Squawkless Phoenix (Gardiner Mason) 5. 07:02 AM - Re: New Builder (tools) 6. 07:13 AM - Re: Re: The Squawkless Phoenix (Boatright, Jeffrey) 7. 05:50 PM - Pietenpol Kit For sale (tonyp51qa) 8. 05:52 PM - CORVAIR motor for sale (tonyp51qa) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 04:20:54 AM PST US From: "Fairfield, Mike" Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: new builder Good morning Mr. Dawson, I am finishing my ribs at this time and I have a question for you (nice workmanship). I definitely like the idea of the flop and I believe I will use it as well. I am planning on building my center section 48" wide to be able to have greater fuel capacity in one location to feed my 0-200. My question is, should the cabane struts remain perpendicular to the wing or should they be splayed out to attach at the joint of the center section and spar? I am not an engineer and I am not sure which would be the best route to go. Thanks, Mike. -----Original Message----- From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Clif Dawson Sent: Friday, April 22, 2016 2:22 AM Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: new builder Flop, 36" wide, to becovered in lexan. Clif https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=http-3A__www.clifdawson.ca_&d=CwICaQ&c=epcZb5jdh1ysHc2TC_uZEMpi5Xp3bPQPSZatc6SDw3A&r=hRt1T_6xXLTFw-Pi77z3ka1Hyoflt0RLKFhpWJWpHdk&m=A8mUk7ELCKy16ExTCTcbSwY4AJOBNiyCmFt4A_K2jPU&s=yo8QeDI4hJd6kgtDPnC9iAfmDHoJdaiWqbpUoWEbtbk&e= Skeptic potential customer asking, " If that penetrating oil is so good, how's it staying in the can?" > > Hi Joe, Have you seen the wings on which the flop extends 1 or 2 rib spaces into the trailing edge of the left wing? I believe this would help tremendously with entry and exit. > Anyway, I hope this gives you food for thought. Heed the advise of > those that have said to look at many many examples and try on as many as > you can. Good luck with your build. I'll look for you at Brodhead. > Sincerely, R. Scott Bartko low and slow with the top down ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:49:25 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New Builder From: "tools" Joe, You asked what kind of wood sealer you need. It depends on the covering system you are using. If you are using poly fiber, you need an epoxy sealer to withstand the exposure to mek it's going to have. If you are using the Stewart system, you can use about any varnish or polyurethane. If your finish is "exterior" grade, it's usually a little more expensive and designed to be a bit more durable, read abrasion resistant. If it's "spar" whatever, it has additives to help withstand UV. Both good things. In the old days varnish was a natural resin, and poly was synthetic. These days you have to read the fine print to be sure. True varnish is harder and able to be polished, which we don't care about. Poly is softer and more pliable, which is desirable on wood kept in non climate controlled environments. My preference is a synthetic exterior grade spar "varnish" (that is actually poly). Still MUCH cheaper than epoxy "varnish". As with ALL of these, thin the first coat for better penetration. Water based finishes are also alright under Stewart adhesives. I believe them all to be synthetic. Tools Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=455328#455328 ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 06:25:27 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New Builder From: "JSeitz" Cliff, I have looked through your site before, and I must say that your workmanship is impeccable, something to truly be striven for. I especially liked your throttle quadrant. I will reconsider the flop, plus it would allow me to hide a handle in there as well. I suppose that this is all a balance act of weight versus smoothness of flight. Tools, that was exactly what I was looking for! Now I can begin to coat my wood (so to speak) and protect it. I would rather use Stewart Systems just because of some bad experiences with MEK. You guys have all been awesome, and though I may or may not use all of your ideas, they have all been helpful in making the decisions. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=455333#455333 ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 07:01:09 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: The Squawkless Phoenix From: Gardiner Mason Hey, I would like to meet up with you guys also. I have been rebuilding my b ird with a new engine and almost done. A c85 instead of a corvair. Gardiner M ason Sent from my iPad > On Apr 21, 2016, at 10:56 PM, Boatright, Jeffrey wrote: > > Sound good to me! > > =94 > Jeffrey H. Boatright, PhD, FARVO > Professor of Ophthalmology > Emory University School of Medicine > Core Director & Research Biologist > Atlanta VAMC Center for Visual & Neurocognitive Rehabilitation > > From: tools > Date: Thursday, April 21, 2016 at 10:23 AM > To: "pietenpol-list@matronics.com" > Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: The Squawkless Phoenix > > > Congrats! After having 2rn down twice for major stuff, it's REALLY nice t o have me back up again. > > Maybe meet up soon with the big Piet guys. > > Tools > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=455289#455289 > > > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > > > > > > > This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use of > the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged > information. If the reader of this message is not the intended > recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution > or copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictly > prohibited. > > If you have received this message in error, please contact > the sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of the > original message (including attachments). ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 07:02:37 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: New Builder From: "tools" Glad it helped ya some. I used Stewart adhesive on my Piet repairs. Not as easy as stits, but wildly tenacious. I think it has fantastic adhesive qualities. As with ALL water based stuff, it's important to not muck with it too much. When laying down a coat, load the brush well, paint deliberately and accurately and be done. When the brush unloads to the point you have to "squeeze" or press harder, stop, reload and get back to it. Don't try to brush brush brush to get it out. That constitutes "mucking" and things get gloppy quick. There is an art to loading a brush as I learned many yeas ago from a professional house painter. We usually dip and then scrape... Counterproductive. Dip and then pat against the interior wall (this means transfer to suitable container if necessary) to remove excess rather than scrape. Sounds meaningless, but give it a try. 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For sale From: "tonyp51qa" I have my PIETENPOL Air Camper for sale. Long Fuselage for Corvair. Wood is about 90% complete. Includes all wood to finish fuselage. it includes wood landing gear legs{not installed yet} ALL tail feathers are built. Just needs some light final sanding to finish. Controls are in{torque tube, front & pilot stick, rudder bar and rudder pedals} metal brackets are cut, with a enough sheet stock to finish remaining brackets. Sale includes wood working tools{power and manual} tonyp51qa@gmail.com 480-748-3470 -------- Tony Crawford Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=455354#455354 ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 05:52:48 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: CORVAIR motor for sale From: "tonyp51qa" I have a CORVAIR motor for sale. It is all cleaned up, case has been gone through, new crank, new harmonic balencer, push rod tubes, heads are fresh and ready to bolt on. Plus many extras. Needs pistons, cylinders and rods. tonyp51qa@gmail.com 480-748-3470 -------- Tony Crawford Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=455355#455355 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message pietenpol-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Pietenpol-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/pietenpol-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/pietenpol-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.