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I am going to start building a Pietenpol Air Camper this fall. I came
across two websites that sells plans. They are from Andrew Pietenpol ( www.
*pietenpolair*craftcompany.com <http://www.pietenpolaircraftcompany.com/> )
and Doc Mosher (http://www.pietenpolplansplus.com ). A full set from Andrew
is $250.00 and $160.00 from Doc. I am looking for some advice as to which
set of plans I should get and information as to the difference between the
two set of plans.
Jim Keown
Tucson, AZ
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol Plans |
In situations like this where I have two choice from two vendors for the same product
at different prices, here is what I like to do.
Instead of asking people with no real skin in the game, I would pose that same
question to the two vendors. Let them explain why they are the better choice then
go with your gut as to which one has the better reason. You should let them
sell themselves, not just take the opinions of unknown people on a forum.
Just my $.02.
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Semper Fi,
Terry Hand
Athens, GA
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol Plans |
Jim;
As you can imagine, something like the Air Camper, which has now spanned a period
of time from tube-type radios to the iPhone and beyond, has followed a very
circuitous history in its development. This is also the case for the plans for
building the airplane. One of the best and most concise summaries of how the
plans developed into what they are today is contained in the 16-page article
that Doc Mosher wrote in July of 2015, and which is included in an information
packet that he offers. What Doc points out, and I quote from his work, "Bernard
Pietenpol never did draw any plans. He simply built terrific airplanes
'because I seemed to know how.' Orrin Hoopman simply drew what Bernard had already
built - a sort of reverse engineering because he was there. Hoopman's plans
were never copyright [sic] and were free use available from a small number
of individuals who sold them, often simultaneously."
I bought my Piet plans from the Pietenpol family about 15 years ago because I felt
like getting them from the family added to the value of what I would own,
and indeed it did mean something to me as compared with buying them on Amazon.com.
Besides the plans themselves, I also bought an informational manual from
the family that includes a number of helpful hints and tips about building and
operating the airplane, and a sort of FAQ which was also helpful in ruling out
things that have been tried or thought about but which have not worked or are
not recommended, and why. At the time when I bought my set of plans, the only
other Air Camper plans that were available were in the 1932 Flying & Glider
Manual, which I also own, and which is a treasure in itself but is far harder
to build from due to the smaller size of the drawings and the lack of later
additions and enhancements to the F&GM plans. Get the F&GM, but not to build
from. Very affordable, and available from the EAA for a very modest amount.
If for nothing else, they serve very well to take with you as reading and study
material when you travel, which is much handier than trying to carry rolls of
plans but which is still plenty detailed and readable for you to study, think,
and learn from. I also own Chet Peek's book "The Pietenpol Story", but it's
not really a builder's resource.
You will get the same drawings from Doc as you will from the family, but you will
get different supporting materials. It's your choice but personally, I own
them all and they all have useful and interesting material in them. Doc is a
deep and wide resource, he is available by email and on this list, and he is
an ardent supporter of Pietenpols and Pietenpeople.
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Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power
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