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1. 05:56 AM - Re: Pietenpol Plans (AircamperN11MS)
2. 07:18 AM - Re: Pietenpol Plans (tools)
3. 08:20 AM - disc sander (Oscar Zuniga)
4. 08:51 AM - Re: disc sander ()
5. 09:22 AM - Re: disc sander (Jack Textor)
6. 10:11 AM - Re: disc sander (Tony Crawford)
7. 11:22 AM - Re: Pietenpol Plans (John C Black)
8. 11:44 AM - Re: Re: Pietenpol Plans (Glen Schweizer)
9. 11:53 AM - Re: disc sander ()
10. 12:25 PM - Re: disc sander (Glen Schweizer)
11. 12:29 PM - Re: disc sander (Lorenzo)
12. 02:31 PM - Re: Pietenpol Plans (tools)
13. 02:36 PM - Re: disc sander (tools)
14. 07:27 PM - Re: disc sander (aviken)
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol Plans |
Well Said Oscar,
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Scott Liefeld
Flying N11MS since March 1972
Steel Tube
C-85-12
Wire Wheels
Brodhead in 1996
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol Plans |
Some more food for thought...
There are TONS of quick build Piet kits out there, otherwise known as abandoned
projects. Most come with plans.
There are also a lot of super quick build kits, otherwise known as damaged or derelict
planes that don't even need plans.
Nearly all are in the hands of someone who would rather see them go to a good home
rather than scrapped.
Worst case, wrong gear, fuse and you are worried about the wing... Build new fuse
and new ribs. Still easier than scratch building, you get builders certificate
if you want.
Best case, restore an airplane, feel good about its airworthiness, and have an
airplane you can sell with someone else's name on the AW cert.
May or may not be what ya want, but worth considering.
Tools
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Folks=3B
I have need for a larger disc sander than my little benchtop belt/disc has
on it so I'm looking for a 12" disc sander. The Harbor Freight "Central Ma
chinery" unit is readily available and the lowest cost=2C but the comparabl
e Grizzly unit is also available for maybe $40 more. This is not for heavy
-duty or production use=2C just for my shop and hobby work. I just need a
sander with more torque and a bigger sanding area. Any comments about eith
er or both of these units would be appreciated=3B thanks.
Oscar Zuniga
Medford=2C OR
Air Camper NX41CC
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Oscar,
I was in the same boat several years ago, I looked at both of them and chos
e to buy the HF bench top along with a 20% off coupon. I have been very ha
ppy with it and no complaints over the years. It is very heavy and solid a
nd does a great job, no vibrating or walking away. Sanding discs are easy
to change and I can hook up my shop-vac to it to collect the dust. For the
price and comparison the HF 12 inch bench top is a good choice.
Brian
SLC-UT
N3218H
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-lis
t-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Oscar Zuniga
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 9:20 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: disc sander
Folks;
I have need for a larger disc sander than my little benchtop belt/disc has
on it so I'm looking for a 12" disc sander. The Harbor Freight "Central Ma
chinery" unit is readily available and the lowest cost, but the comparable
Grizzly unit is also available for maybe $40 more. This is not for heavy-d
uty or production use, just for my shop and hobby work. I just need a sand
er with more torque and a bigger sanding area. Any comments about either o
r both of these units would be appreciated; thanks.
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC
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Oscar my HF has never let me down...
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> On Apr 27, 2016, at 10:19 AM, Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Folks;
>
> I have need for a larger disc sander than my little benchtop belt/disc has
on it so I'm looking for a 12" disc sander. The Harbor Freight "Central Ma
chinery" unit is readily available and the lowest cost, but the comparable G
rizzly unit is also available for maybe $40 more. This is not for heavy-dut
y or production use, just for my shop and hobby work. I just need a sander w
ith more torque and a bigger sanding area. Any comments about either or bot
h of these units would be appreciated; thanks.
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> Medford, OR
> Air Camper NX41CC
>
>
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Oscar,
How about if we donate $$ to you you??? If it will help you to get the
hinges out.
Tony
On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 10:19 AM, Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
wrote:
> Folks;
>
> I have need for a larger disc sander than my little benchtop belt/disc has
> on it so I'm looking for a 12" disc sander. The Harbor Freight "Central
> Machinery" unit is readily available and the lowest cost, but the
> comparable Grizzly unit is also available for maybe $40 more. This is not
> for heavy-duty or production use, just for my shop and hobby work. I just
> need a sander with more torque and a bigger sanding area. Any comments
> about either or both of these units would be appreciated; thanks.
>
> Oscar Zuniga
> Medford, OR
> Air Camper NX41CC
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol Plans |
Hi,
Im new to the list. I just ordered plans and Im learning. Doc Mosher was great
to work with. But I have a question.
Is a CAD version of the plans available so we can use our local CNC routers to
create some of the shapes ?
John
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol Plans |
Hey John
Welcome! CAD? Please keep in mind the pietenpol. 1928,cutting steel out of oil
drum lids(I've heard that was mr pietenpol' source of steel). Hardware bolts
on the original. The point I'm trying to make is that there really are things
that can be made by drawing on real paper or making patterns. Hell, the originals
used nails driven into the floor for fuse jigs. Common, really?
Glen
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> On Apr 27, 2016, at 11:21 AM, John C Black <john@jcblack.com> wrote:
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>
>
> Hi,
>
> Im new to the list. I just ordered plans and Im learning. Doc Mosher was great
to work with. But I have a question.
>
> Is a CAD version of the plans available so we can use our local CNC routers to
create some of the shapes ?
>
> John
>
>
>
>
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Hi Oscar:
Glad you asked. I have a Harbor Freight 6 X 48 belt sander which has
the disc on the side to which you are referring. A couple years ago I
decided to get an adjustable table for the belt sander like the disc has
and ordered one from HF. Last summer accidently knocked it over and it
fell on the floor and broke the table. Called HF, and guess what? They
no longer sell the table. At Christmas, I bought one for my daughter and
called again and tried to buy a table thinking it was just a model
number or something kind of problem. No go. They don=99t sell
repair parts.
So if a another company sells repair parts, then that would be the
company to go with and screw HF.
Dennis
From: Tony Crawford
Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 12:10 PM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: disc sander
Oscar,
How about if we donate $$ to you you??? If it will help you to get the
hinges out.
Tony
On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 10:19 AM, Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com>
wrote:
Folks;
I have need for a larger disc sander than my little benchtop belt/disc
has on it so I'm looking for a 12" disc sander. The Harbor Freight
"Central Machinery" unit is readily available and the lowest cost, but
the comparable Grizzly unit is also available for maybe $40 more. This
is not for heavy-duty or production use, just for my shop and hobby
work. I just need a sander with more torque and a bigger sanding area.
Any comments about either or both of these units would be appreciated;
thanks.
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC
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HF is good considering what they are. If you want something that's going to l
ast longer than us, pay 4x the price. HF is throw away quality: reasonably a
ccurate, work the beans out of it and when it breaks,trash it.
Sent from my iPhone
> On Apr 27, 2016, at 11:53 AM, <mushface1@gmail.com> <mushface1@gmail.com> w
rote:
>
> Hi Oscar:
>
> Glad you asked. I have a Harbor Freight 6 X 48 belt sander which has the
disc on the side to which you are referring. A couple years ago I decided t
o get an adjustable table for the belt sander like the disc has and ordered o
ne from HF. Last summer accidently knocked it over and it fell on the floor a
nd broke the table. Called HF, and guess what? They no longer sell the table
. At Christmas, I bought one for my daughter and called again and tried to b
uy a table thinking it was just a model number or something kind of problem.
No go. They don=99t sell repair parts.
> So if a another company sells repair parts, then that would be the compa
ny to go with and screw HF.
> Dennis
>
> From: Tony Crawford
> Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2016 12:10 PM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: disc sander
>
> Oscar,
> How about if we donate $$ to you you??? If it will help you to get the hin
ges out.
>
> Tony
>
>> On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 10:19 AM, Oscar Zuniga <taildrags@hotmail.com> wr
ote:
>> Folks;
>>
>> I have need for a larger disc sander than my little benchtop belt/disc ha
s on it so I'm looking for a 12" disc sander. The Harbor Freight "Central M
achinery" unit is readily available and the lowest cost, but the comparable G
rizzly unit is also available for maybe $40 more. This is not for heavy-dut
y or production use, just for my shop and hobby work. I just need a sander w
ith more torque and a bigger sanding area. Any comments about either or bot
h of these units would be appreciated; thanks.
>>
>> Oscar Zuniga
>> Medford, OR
>> Air Camper NX41CC
>>
>>
>
>
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When I started my Piet build I thought it would be handy to have a large disk sander
to trim and size the stick ends. (It has been one of my most useful tools.)
I settled on the HF 12". The 10" I examined in the store seemed too flimsy.
The 12" was heftier. I have been very happy with it. ShopVac plugs in nicely
to keep dust down. I don't remember if the stand came with it, or if I had to
buy that separately, but I recommend that too.
Lorenzo
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| Subject: | Re: Pietenpol Plans |
Generally available? Not that I know of. Someone has done it. Also more and
more common for shops to be able to scan or trace so that the customer doesn't
need to have things digitized first.
Tools
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Hf and grizzly are the same quality, generally speaking. Hf imports and sells
uninspected. Grizzly inspects and generally maintains parts.
Matter of personal preference.
My preference is to start beating the bushes and scare up an old delta, Rockwell
or Milwaukee. Can be had for the same prices depending on condition.
Ask around on owwm.org, see them often in the hunnert buck range.
Tools
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Hi Oscar,, I bought one of the disk sanders at Harbor Freight, it has the flexible
head and uses the 8 inch Velcro type disks. I really like it, I bought
it to build my propeller and it worked great. Now I use it all the time for
almost any quick sanding job.... I know the durability of these Chinese made
motors are fairly short lived, but it seems to be a pretty good machine.
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