---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 07/20/16: 15 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 03:36 AM - Re: Re: FB (Charles N. Campbell) 2. 03:43 AM - Re: FB (Boatright, Jeffrey) 3. 03:45 AM - Re: FB (Charles N. Campbell) 4. 03:53 AM - Re: FB (Charles N. Campbell) 5. 04:36 AM - Re: FB (Jeff Boatright) 6. 04:48 AM - SITREP (Steven Dortch) 7. 04:53 AM - Re: Re: FB (Matt Paxton) 8. 04:58 AM - Re: FB (M W Stanley) 9. 06:21 AM - FB -v- Matronics (yb21701@juno.com) 10. 08:08 AM - Pietenpol Weekend at Old Rhinebeck Airport Aug. 27-28 (woodflier) 11. 11:00 AM - Re: Re: FB (Jim Boyer) 12. 01:24 PM - This List is USEFUL !! (John C Black) 13. 04:49 PM - Fw: Piet (goffelectric@comcast.net) 14. 09:48 PM - Re: FB (taildrags) 15. 11:52 PM - Re: This List is USEFUL !! (Clif Dawson) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 03:36:37 AM PST US From: "Charles N. Campbell" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: FB Very little! On Tue, Jul 19, 2016 at 2:24 PM, AircamperN11MS wrote: > Scott.liefeld@lacity.org> > > I'm also still lurking. Although not as much as before. This site still > has some life left in it too. > > -------- > Scott Liefeld > Flying N11MS since March 1972 > Steel Tube > C-85-12 > Wire Wheels > Brodhead in 1996 > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=458369#458369 > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 03:43:43 AM PST US From: "Boatright, Jeffrey" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: FB SSBhZ3JlZSB3aXRoIGFsbCBvZiB0aGlzLCBidXQgd2hvIGtub3dzIGlmIG15IHJlc3BvbnNlIHdp bGwgbWFrZSB0aGUgbGlzdD8NCg0K4oCUDQpKZWZmcmV5IEguIEJvYXRyaWdodCwgUGhELCBGQVJW Tw0KUHJvZmVzc29yIG9mIE9waHRoYWxtb2xvZ3kNCkVtb3J5IFVuaXZlcnNpdHkgU2Nob29sIG9m IE1lZGljaW5lDQpDb3JlIERpcmVjdG9yICYgUmVzZWFyY2ggQmlvbG9naXN0DQpBdGxhbnRhIFZB TUMgQ2VudGVyIGZvciBWaXN1YWwgJiBOZXVyb2NvZ25pdGl2ZSBSZWhhYmlsaXRhdGlvbg0KDQpG cm9tOiBDYXREZXNpZ25zIDxDYXREZXNpZ25zQGF0dC5uZXQ8bWFpbHRvOkNhdERlc2lnbnNAYXR0 Lm5ldD4+DQpSZXBseS1UbzogInBpZXRlbnBvbC1saXN0QG1hdHJvbmljcy5jb208bWFpbHRvOnBp ZXRlbnBvbC1saXN0QG1hdHJvbmljcy5jb20+IiA8cGlldGVucG9sLWxpc3RAbWF0cm9uaWNzLmNv bTxtYWlsdG86cGlldGVucG9sLWxpc3RAbWF0cm9uaWNzLmNvbT4+DQpEYXRlOiBXZWRuZXNkYXks IEp1bHkgMjAsIDIwMTYgYXQgMTI6MzUgQU0NClRvOiAicGlldGVucG9sLWxpc3RAbWF0cm9uaWNz LmNvbTxtYWlsdG86cGlldGVucG9sLWxpc3RAbWF0cm9uaWNzLmNvbT4iIDxwaWV0ZW5wb2wtbGlz dEBtYXRyb25pY3MuY29tPG1haWx0bzpwaWV0ZW5wb2wtbGlzdEBtYXRyb25pY3MuY29tPj4NClN1 YmplY3Q6IFJFOiBQaWV0ZW5wb2wtTGlzdDogRkINCg0KRG91d2UNCg0KSSB0aGluayB0aGUgcmlz ZSBvZiB0aGUgRmFjZWJvb2sgR3JvdXAgaGFzIGJlZW4gYSBodWdlIGxvc3MgdG8gdGhlIFBpZXRl bnBvbCBjb21tdW5pdHkuICBCdWlsZGluZyBxdWVzdGlvbnMgZ2V0IGxvc3QgaW4gdGhlIG5vaXNl LiBJdCBsYWNrcyB0aGUgYWJpbGl0eSB0byBzZWFyY2ggYW5kIGZpbmQgc3R1ZmYuIFRoZXJlIGlz IG5vIGFyY2hpdmUgdG8gaGVscCBmdXR1cmUgYnVpbGRlcnMgZmluZCBhbnN3ZXJzIHRvIHF1ZXN0 aW9ucyB0aGV5IGRpZG7igJl0IGV2ZW4ga25vdyB0byBhc2suIE9uIEZhY2Vib29rIGJ1aWxkZXJz IGFyZSBwdXNoZWQgYXNpZGUgaW4gbXkgb3Bpbmlvbi4gIChLaW5kIG9mIGxpa2UgdGhlIGN1cnJl bnQgRUFBKSAgSXTigJlzIGFsbCBnbGl0eiB3aXRoIG5vIHN1YnN0YW5jZS4gWWVzLCBJIHRvbyBo YXZlIGhhZCB0byBtYWtlIGEgRmFjZWJvb2sgYWNjb3VudCBidXQgSSBkb27igJl0IHVzZSBpdCBh bmQgSeKAmW0gc29tZXdoYXQgZGlzY29ubmVjdGVkIGZyb20gdGhlIFBpZXRlbnBvbCBjb21tdW5p dHkgYmVjYXVzZSBvZiBpdC4gT2ggd2VsbC4gSSBwcmVmZXIgdG8gZ28gdGFsayB0byBHYXJ5IGFu ZCBTY290dCBhdCB0aGVpciBoYW5nZXJzIGFueXdheS4NCg0KSeKAmW0gaG9waW5nIHRoYXQgdGhp cyBsaXN0IHdpbGwgZ2V0IHNvbWUgdHJhY3Rpb24gYmFjayBhcyBpdCBpcyB0aGUgYmVzdCBmb3Jt YXQgZm9yIHdoYXQgd2UgYXJlIHRyeWluZyB0byBkby4NCg0KQ2hyaXMNClNhY3JhbWVudG8sIENB DQpXZXN0Y29hc3RQaWV0LmNvbQ0KDQoNCg0KRnJvbTogb3duZXItcGlldGVucG9sLWxpc3Qtc2Vy dmVyQG1hdHJvbmljcy5jb208bWFpbHRvOm93bmVyLXBpZXRlbnBvbC1saXN0LXNlcnZlckBtYXRy b25pY3MuY29tPiBbbWFpbHRvOm93bmVyLXBpZXRlbnBvbC1saXN0LXNlcnZlckBtYXRyb25pY3Mu Y29tXSBPbiBCZWhhbGYgT2YgRG91d2UgQmx1bWJlcmcNClNlbnQ6IFR1ZXNkYXksIEp1bHkgMTks IDIwMTYgNDoxNCBBTQ0KVG86IHBpZXRlbnBvbC1saXN0QG1hdHJvbmljcy5jb208bWFpbHRvOnBp ZXRlbnBvbC1saXN0QG1hdHJvbmljcy5jb20+DQpTdWJqZWN0OiBQaWV0ZW5wb2wtTGlzdDogRkIN Cg0KSSByZXNpc3RlZCBnb2luZyB0byB0aGUgRkIgZ3JvdXAgZm9yIGEgbG9uZyB0aW1lLCBidXQg YSBjb3VwbGUgb2YgeWVhcnMgYmFjaywgdGhlIHRvbmUgb2YgdGhpcyBncm91cCBkZWdlbmVyYXRl ZCByYWRpY2FsbHkgYW5kIGdvdCByZWFsIG5lZ2F0aXZlIGJlY2F1c2Ugb2YgYSBmZXcgcGVvcGxl IGFuZCB0aGlzIGdyb3VwIHNocmFuayB0byBhbG1vc3Qgbm90aGluZy4gIEkgc3RheWVkIG9uLCBi dXQgcmVhbGx5IG1pc3NlZCBzZWVpbmcgcGVvcGxl4oCZcyBwcm9qZWN0cyBhbmQgaGVhcmluZyBh Ym91dCB0aGVpciBwcm9ncmVzcyBldGMgc28gSSB3ZW50IG92ZXIgdG8gdGhlIGRhcmsgc2lkZS4N Cg0KU2VlbXMgbGlrZSB0aG9zZSBwZW9wbGUgaGF2ZSBtb3ZlZCBvbiBub3cgdGhhdCB0aGUgZGFt YWdlIGlzIGRvbmUsIGJ1dCB0aGVyZSB1c2VkIHRvIGJlIDIwLTMwIHBvc3RzIGEgZGF5IGZyb20g ZnVuIHN0dWZmIHRvIHRlY2huaWNhbCBzdHVmZiBhbmQgd2l0aG91dCB0aGlzIGdyb3VwIEkgd291 bGRu4oCZdCBoYXZlIGJlZW4gYWJsZSB0byBidWlsZCBteSBwbGFuZS4gIEl04oCZcyBhIHNoYW1l LCBidXQgSSBkb27igJl0IHNlZSBpdCBjb21pbmcgYmFjayB0aG91Z2ggSSBzdGlsbCBsdXJrLg0K DQpEb3V3ZQ0KDQpfX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fX19fXw0KDQpUaGlzIGUtbWFp bCBtZXNzYWdlIChpbmNsdWRpbmcgYW55IGF0dGFjaG1lbnRzKSBpcyBmb3IgdGhlIHNvbGUgdXNl IG9mDQp0aGUgaW50ZW5kZWQgcmVjaXBpZW50KHMpIGFuZCBtYXkgY29udGFpbiBjb25maWRlbnRp YWwgYW5kIHByaXZpbGVnZWQNCmluZm9ybWF0aW9uLiBJZiB0aGUgcmVhZGVyIG9mIHRoaXMgbWVz c2FnZSBpcyBub3QgdGhlIGludGVuZGVkDQpyZWNpcGllbnQsIHlvdSBhcmUgaGVyZWJ5IG5vdGlm aWVkIHRoYXQgYW55IGRpc3NlbWluYXRpb24sIGRpc3RyaWJ1dGlvbg0Kb3IgY29weWluZyBvZiB0 aGlzIG1lc3NhZ2UgKGluY2x1ZGluZyBhbnkgYXR0YWNobWVudHMpIGlzIHN0cmljdGx5DQpwcm9o aWJpdGVkLg0KDQpJZiB5b3UgaGF2ZSByZWNlaXZlZCB0aGlzIG1lc3NhZ2UgaW4gZXJyb3IsIHBs ZWFzZSBjb250YWN0DQp0aGUgc2VuZGVyIGJ5IHJlcGx5IGUtbWFpbCBtZXNzYWdlIGFuZCBkZXN0 cm95IGFsbCBjb3BpZXMgb2YgdGhlDQpvcmlnaW5hbCBtZXNzYWdlIChpbmNsdWRpbmcgYXR0YWNo bWVudHMpLg0K ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 03:45:28 AM PST US From: "Charles N. Campbell" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: FB Thanks, Douwe. Maybe if a few of us stick around the group will enlarge. If the few of us die off, there just won't be a Pietenpol forum. C On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 12:35 AM, CatDesigns wrote: > Douwe > > > I think the rise of the Facebook Group has been a huge loss to the > Pietenpol community. Building questions get lost in the noise. It lacks > the ability to search and find stuff. There is no archive to help future > builders find answers to questions they didn=99t even know to ask. On > Facebook builders are pushed aside in my opinion. (Kind of like the > current EAA) It=99s all glitz with no substance. Yes, I too have h ad to make > a Facebook account but I don=99t use it and I=99m somewhat di sconnected from > the Pietenpol community because of it. Oh well. I prefer to go talk to Ga ry > and Scott at their hangers anyway. > > > I=99m hoping that this list will get some traction back as it is th e best > format for what we are trying to do. > > > Chris > > Sacramento, CA > > WestcoastPiet.com > > > *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto: > owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Douwe Blumberg > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 19, 2016 4:14 AM > *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: FB > > > I resisted going to the FB group for a long time, but a couple of years > back, the tone of this group degenerated radically and got real negative > because of a few people and this group shrank to almost nothing. I staye d > on, but really missed seeing people=99s projects and hearing about their > progress etc so I went over to the dark side. > > > Seems like those people have moved on now that the damage is done, but > there used to be 20-30 posts a day from fun stuff to technical stuff and > without this group I wouldn=99t have been able to build my plane. It=99s a > shame, but I don=99t see it coming back though I still lurk. > > > Douwe > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:53:19 AM PST US From: "Charles N. Campbell" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: FB It made it! Chuck On Wed, Jul 20, 2016 at 6:43 AM, Boatright, Jeffrey wrote: > I agree with all of this, but who knows if my response will make the list ? > > =94 > Jeffrey H. Boatright, PhD, FARVO > Professor of Ophthalmology > Emory University School of Medicine > Core Director & Research Biologist > Atlanta VAMC Center for Visual & Neurocognitive Rehabilitation > > From: CatDesigns > Date: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 at 12:35 AM > To: "pietenpol-list@matronics.com" > Subject: RE: Pietenpol-List: FB > > Douwe > > > I think the rise of the Facebook Group has been a huge loss to the > Pietenpol community. Building questions get lost in the noise. It lacks > the ability to search and find stuff. There is no archive to help future > builders find answers to questions they didn=99t even know to ask. On > Facebook builders are pushed aside in my opinion. (Kind of like the > current EAA) It=99s all glitz with no substance. Yes, I too have h ad to make > a Facebook account but I don=99t use it and I=99m somewhat di sconnected from > the Pietenpol community because of it. Oh well. I prefer to go talk to Ga ry > and Scott at their hangers anyway. > > > I=99m hoping that this list will get some traction back as it is th e best > format for what we are trying to do. > > > Chris > > Sacramento, CA > > WestcoastPiet.com > > > *From:* owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [ > mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com > ] *On Behalf Of *Douwe Blumber g > *Sent:* Tuesday, July 19, 2016 4:14 AM > *To:* pietenpol-list@matronics.com > *Subject:* Pietenpol-List: FB > > > I resisted going to the FB group for a long time, but a couple of years > back, the tone of this group degenerated radically and got real negative > because of a few people and this group shrank to almost nothing. I staye d > on, but really missed seeing people=99s projects and hearing about their > progress etc so I went over to the dark side. > > > Seems like those people have moved on now that the damage is done, but > there used to be 20-30 posts a day from fun stuff to technical stuff and > without this group I wouldn=99t have been able to build my plane. It=99s a > shame, but I don=99t see it coming back though I still lurk. > > > Douwe > > > ------------------------------ > > This e-mail message (including any attachments) is for the sole use of > the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged > information. If the reader of this message is not the intended > recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution > or copying of this message (including any attachments) is strictly > prohibited. > > If you have received this message in error, please contact > the sender by reply e-mail message and destroy all copies of the > original message (including attachments). > ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:36:10 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: FB From: "Jeff Boatright" FWIW, I've been lurking a lot recently due to several issues, none of which has to do with the late unpleasantness, which I managed to largely miss simply by being swamped at work. I'll probably start contributing again as time and patience allows (patience being required to actually use the list, which for some reason has always been hit-or-miss wrt to posting my posts!). I agree with others that an email list allows for deeper conversations and better archiving. FB is more multimedia-friendly, but tends to be more drive-by announcement rather than utilitarian discussion. I think that there is a place for both, but as with everything in life, there's only so much time. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=458413#458413 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 04:48:05 AM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: SITREP From: Steven Dortch Hey guys, just an update my pietenpol and me. I have done little in my piet for 6 months as a result of low cash flow, hot weather and motivation. I am truly close to getting her completed. My biggest single project is hettingy Hangar rearranged so that I can turn my other plane around and make space for the pietenpol with the wings on! Personally: I am currently taking the part 141 instrument flight course with Tempus Training. They use Redbird full motion flight simulators and new Cessna 172S planes. Friday I will be doing the long distance cross country. I will be done in about two or three weeks. I loved learning to fly.BUT i don't enjoy instrument training. It is just a tool and requirement for me to go to the next step. Next I will get my vtail Bonanza back in annual and will use it to get my commercial rating. I will do this part 61. Then I will return to tempus and do their part 141 professional instructor course. This course gets me my CFI, CFII and MEI. The end goal is to get someone else to pay for my flying addiction. I intend on getting the pietenpol finished during this time. Maybe I can use it to commute to training! Blue Skies, Steve D ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 04:53:18 AM PST US Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: FB From: Matt Paxton I would also hate to see this list wither. I've met a lot of great people, gotten questions answered and even been entertained by some of the goings on. Let's keep it going. Matt Paxton NX629ML Fairfield, VaOn Jul 20, 2016 7:33 AM, Jeff Boatright wrote: > > > FWIW, I've been lurking a lot recently due to several issues, none of which has to do with the late unpleasantness, which I managed to largely miss simply by being swamped at work. I'll probably start contributing again as time and patience allows (patience being required to actually use the list, which for some reason has always been hit-or-miss wrt to posting my posts!). > > I agree with others that an email list allows for deeper conversations and better archiving. FB is more multimedia-friendly, but tends to be more drive-by announcement rather than utilitarian discussion. I think that there is a place for both, but as with everything in life, there's only so much time. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=458413#458413 > > ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 04:58:45 AM PST US From: "M W Stanley" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: FB Hi all, Another lurker still here in Japan. Although my project has stagnated (all the normal reasons, but the project's not totally dead yet), I had sort of wondered what happened with the list as the posts seem to be few and far between. I too finally opened an FB account just this year. I did search for 'Pietenpol' but wasn't that wrapped with the response. Although I don't have much that I can offer to this list, I sincerely hope that it comes back to life more, it really is the best Piet info site available when you need advice or just want a smile. The only Piet thing that I still do is fly my r/c model. Just a couple of months ago, it passed it's 400th flight and it is now about 15 1/2 years old and it still flies just as well as ever. I know it's not the same as flying a full size aircraft, but it's still a Piet so I like it and will continue to do so. Anyway, hope the list continues and helps to make peoples dreams come to life.....cheers to everyone! Mark Stanley Japan From: Douwe Blumberg Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2016 8:13 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: FB I resisted going to the FB group for a long time, but a couple of years back, the tone of this group degenerated radically and got real negative because of a few people and this group shrank to almost nothing. I stayed on, but really missed seeing people's projects and hearing about their progress etc so I went over to the dark side. Seems like those people have moved on now that the damage is done, but there used to be 20-30 posts a day from fun stuff to technical stuff and without this group I wouldn't have been able to build my plane. It's a shame, but I don't see it coming back though I still lurk. Douwe ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 06:21:24 AM PST US From: "yb21701@juno.com" Subject: Pietenpol-List: FB -v- Matronics No comparison! Matronics is THE place to learn and share about Pietenpol building, and has been invaluable in my 5 years +/- process. I've been helped by searching the archives, asking questions, reading the daily posts, being directed to West Coast Piets, connecting off-line, and feeling part of a vast pool of knowledge, skills, and experience. Thanks to many including all of you who make Matronics what it is. Don Youngblood, a.k.a. "planes & bikes". ____________________________________________________________ Affordable Wireless Plans Set up is easy. Get online in minutes. Starting at only $9.95 per month! www.netzero.net?refcd=nzmem0216 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 08:08:54 AM PST US From: woodflier Subject: Pietenpol-List: Pietenpol Weekend at Old Rhinebeck Airport Aug. 27-28 Old Rhinebeck Aerodrome (NY94) is hosting a Peitenpol Fly-In the weekend of Aug. 27-28. Several of us from Virginia are planning to fly up for it. I hope some other Piets from the New England/Mid-Atlantic/Mid-west might be considering going. I can't make Brodhead this year so this is going to be my Piet Fix for the year. Matt Paxton NX629ML Fairfield, VA ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 11:00:03 AM PST US From: Jim Boyer Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: Re: FB Hi Jeff, Please do keep up with your inputs to the Pietenpol list. I aways enjoy seeing your videos; they are an inspiration to the rest of us still building. Jim Boyer ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 01:24:12 PM PST US From: John C Black Subject: Pietenpol-List: This List is USEFUL !! I hope everyone will keep this list active. I am just starting on a Piet project. The list is full of great info. THANK YOU !! John ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 04:49:32 PM PST US From: goffelectric@comcast.net Subject: Pietenpol-List: Fwd: Piet This is where I am on my project, everything covered but the fuselage, fina l fitting the cowl now and hope to finish all covering next month. Painting maybe September or October. I was positive four and a half years ago I wou ld be flying in two years, oh well getting close now. Not sure why my phone sent the pictures sideways but you get the idea. =C2- As far as this list goes I was very cautious to post after all of th e meanness a few years ago. That stuff I'm not interested in but I will in the future do my part to keep this list active. Also I think I miss some po sts too. I will see peoples responses to posts that I never saw. =C2- Thanks, Keith Goff =C2- =C2- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Goff Electric" Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 7:36:44 PM Subject: Piet [image/jpeg:IMG_5777.JPG] [image/jpeg:IMG_5710.JPG] Sent from my iPhone ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 09:48:47 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: FB From: "taildrags" A couple of things I'd like to post since there isn't much traffic on the list at present. First of all, has anyone heard how Ken Bickers is doing in the repairs to his airplane up in the Denver area, and his engine mount build for the O-200? Next, I always enjoy hearing from Jake Schultz and his beautiful round-engine, steel-tube frame Air Camper up in Washington. Any news from up there? Is the airplane still rolling on skinny plywood wheels? Jake has what may arguably be the cleanest and best organized workshop in the entire known universe. Last item, a public shout-out of thanks to Chris Tracy and Gary Boothe, neither of whom I have ever met in person, yet I feel like they are hangar mates and airport bums that I get to 'see' (virtually, via this list or email) whenever I want to say hey or ask a question. And they are both responsible for a certain 2-cylinder, 4-stroke engine of mine that is quietly waiting for me to start its next life, which will be on a Part 103 ultralight. Imagine no biennial, no medical, no radios, no airport fences, minimal regulations, no nothing except fuel it up and go fly... all I need to do is get myself down to Gary's hangar and pick it up from where he's been storing it for me. -------- Oscar Zuniga Medford, OR Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=458461#458461 ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 11:52:27 PM PST US From: "Clif Dawson" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: This List is USEFUL !! This list better continue! I aint goin over to the dark side! Facebook has no scruples. All your personal info is handed over to anyone who asks for it. AND we're not just talkin' big corporations wanting to sell you stuff. That's not the half of it either. OK there's my rant. So It's been a while due to combined health, financial, huge moving stuff going on since before Christmas of 2014. Things are looking up and airplane stuff has actually been done. In July of last year I had the wings on with temporary 2" X 2" lumberyard temporary struts and rumbled it out to the flightline for or chapter yearly flyin, etc. Tons of people around my plane all day. What a magnet! I had to put a sign on the struts as folks assumed they were the real ones, even pilots!!! Had it out this year with the real struts on it. No jury struts yet though, or aileron cables (soon). Some pics of my Hemlock stuts attached. More in the next installment. Clif ----- Original Message ----- From: "John C Black" Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 1:18 PM Subject: Pietenpol-List: This List is USEFUL !! > > I hope everyone will keep this list active. I am just starting on a Piet > project. 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