Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Tue 07/26/16


Total Messages Posted: 13



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 03:30 AM - Re: Brodhead 2016 (tonyp51qa)
     2. 05:43 AM - Re: FB (Bill Church)
     3. 06:46 AM - Re: Re: FB (Jim Boyer)
     4. 06:47 AM - Re: FB (AircamperN11MS)
     5. 08:53 AM - Re: Brodhead 2016 (Ryan Mueller)
     6. 09:57 AM - Re: Brodhead 2016 (Boatright, Jeffrey)
     7. 10:24 AM - Re: Brodhead 2016 (Jeff Boatright)
     8. 01:17 PM - Ford Pietenpol Squadron video (Douwe Blumberg)
     9. 01:24 PM - Life of the list (aviken)
    10. 04:47 PM - Re: Ford Pietenpol Squadron video (Ray Krause)
    11. 05:17 PM - great time (Michael Stineman)
    12. 07:37 PM - Re: FB (Bill Church)
    13. 08:45 PM - Re: Re: FB (Ken Bickers)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:30:13 AM PST US
    Subject: Brodhead 2016
    From: tonyp51qa <tonyp51qa@gmail.com>
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    Time: 05:43:21 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: FB
    From: "Bill Church" <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
    Ken, Good to hear that you're making good progress with the repairs. Now for a couple of serious questions: 1) How will you seal the balsa wood airbox? 2) In the photo, how did you get the dog to stick to the wall like that? Bill C. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=458719#458719


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    Time: 06:46:28 AM PST US
    From: Jim Boyer <boyerjrb@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: FB
    Hi Ken, Really glad to see you making such good progress. I thought your Piet was one of the most beautiful I have seen and nice to see it close to flying again. Was really sorry to see the first flight pictures. Jim B.


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    Time: 06:47:35 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: FB
    From: "AircamperN11MS" <Scott.liefeld@lacity.org>
    Hi Bill, I can answer your questions. It's clearly visible to me. He used T-88 to seal the airbox and Velcro to hold the dog to the wall. I do that to my dog all the time. :) -------- Scott Liefeld Flying N11MS since March 1972 Steel Tube C-85-12 Wire Wheels Brodhead in 1996 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=458721#458721


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    Time: 08:53:34 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Brodhead 2016
    From: "Ryan Mueller" <rmueller23@gmail.com>
    Here are a few short clips from the dusk flights on Friday... The daring low level pass: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bz_-7gJUec Five ship flyover: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg8_YwbM1tk Six ship flyover: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvnopEqNTyw Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=458725#458725


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    Time: 09:57:50 AM PST US
    From: "Boatright, Jeffrey" <jeffboatright@emory.edu>
    Subject: Re: Brodhead 2016
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    Time: 10:24:32 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Brodhead 2016
    From: "Jeff Boatright" <jeffboatright@emory.edu>
    [quote="Ryan Mueller"]Here are a few short clips from the dusk flights on Friday... Thank, Ryan. Those are GREAT vids! Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=458727#458727


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    Time: 01:17:07 PM PST US
    From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douwe@douwestudios.com>
    Subject: Ford Pietenpol Squadron video
    Here is probably the highlight of Brodhead 2016. Probably set some sort of record, six ford powered piets flying together. Thanks Brad Schmidt http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dWODt2ztxo


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    Time: 01:24:02 PM PST US
    Subject: Life of the list
    From: "aviken" <aviken@hughes.net>
    I too have mostly became lurker here and I hope to become more involved in the daily exchange of Ideas. I do enjoy the facebook site and the ease of posting pictures and videos, but perhaps it isn't quiet as technical and informative as the list. I will attempt to do my part and post things that might interest other builders. I have been in my normal summer slump as farming and crop dusting takes all my time during these months but as I turn the final turn in my build I am about to bare down hard and finish up before first frost. I have finished all my major components everything is covered and painted, I need to assemble and rig and test . I have my (N) number and need to get my paper work ready for my DAR. I built my third wing strut this morning while it was cool in the hanger but my ten oclock it was hotter than country boys pistol.. I will try to post a few pictures of the assembly when it starts. SEE YOUSE GUYS Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=458738#458738


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    Time: 04:47:34 PM PST US
    From: Ray Krause <raykrause@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: Ford Pietenpol Squadron video
    Douwe and Ryan, Thanks for all the neat videos taken at Brodhead this year. Sure makes me so rry that I did not have a chance to attend this year. Douwe, I admire you for the suggestions for keeping the Forum going. I would volunt eer to help, but I'm such a newbie to the PIETENPOL Forum that I'm not sure t hat I could contribute too much. Having an editor to preview all the posts is a very time consuming job for a thick skinned person, unless it is an anonymous person! I think the users c an do this ourselves if we just don't read, or respond to offensive contribu tions. Offensive contributors will fall by the wayside rather quickly if the y are not acknowledged....at least that is my experience in other forums. This is my contribution! Other than to say that this forum made it possible t o undertake my project. I've met many good friends who have gone way out of their way to help me out. Please don't let it die! Thanks, Ray Krause Sent from my iPad > On Jul 26, 2016, at 1:16 PM, Douwe Blumberg <douwe@douwestudios.com> wrote : > > Here is probably the highlight of Brodhead 2016. Probably set some sort o f record, six ford powered piets flying together. Thanks Brad Schmidt > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dWODt2ztxo >


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    Time: 05:17:28 PM PST US
    Subject: great time
    From: Michael Stineman <stinemanfarm@gmail.com>
    Thanks to all you builders that took time to answer all my questions - especially Ernie M. Mike Stineman


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    Time: 07:37:24 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: FB
    From: "Bill Church" <billspiet@sympatico.ca>
    Scott, You have very good eyes. Can you see the air in the brake lines too? Bill C. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=458753#458753


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    Time: 08:45:05 PM PST US
    From: Ken Bickers <bickers.ken@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: FB
    So Bill, You're on the right track. My hope was that by having the fuselage on the side of the wall the air would bubble out of the brake lines on its own. If that doesn't do it, it may be necessary to work on it while standing inverted from the ceiling. Maybe I'll try that in the next picture I attach to an email. Ken On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 8:36 PM, Bill Church <billspiet@sympatico.ca> wrote: > billspiet@sympatico.ca> > > Scott, > You have very good eyes. Can you see the air in the brake lines too? > > Bill C. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=458753#458753 > >




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