Pietenpol-List Digest Archive

Thu 07/28/16


Total Messages Posted: 4



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     1. 05:16 AM - progress in Tasmania (Douwe Blumberg)
     2. 01:58 PM - New Piet list member----well okay, old Piet list member (Michael Cuy)
     3. 02:09 PM - Fw: New Piet list member----well okay, old Piet list member (Michael Cuy)
     4. 09:37 PM - Where I'm at (dboarder)
 
 
 


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    Time: 05:16:13 AM PST US
    From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douwe@douwestudios.com>
    Subject: progress in Tasmania
    HI David and welcome! First off, congratulations on your progress! I had a ford built with insert bearings as well and feel it's a great solution if done well. I personally think a super-simple tach option is to simply use a westach electrical tach which simply runs off the "P" lead from the mag and eliminates the tach cable. I have used one for five years now and know of others who have been using them with complete success. Available from Aircraft Spruce. Just be sure to put a small fuse inline between the gauge and the lead. I think Toni Bingilis mentions them in his firewall forward book (which EVERYBODY building should be required to own his entire set). If I remember correctly I welded a boss onto the a short metal tube in the radiator hose run so I could get water temps coming out of the radiator and entering the motor. I've also heard that the cap-type gauges can be reading the temp of the brass rather than pure water temps. Good luck! Douwe


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    Time: 01:58:18 PM PST US
    From: Michael Cuy <michaelcuy1@gmail.com>
    Subject: New Piet list member----well okay, old Piet list member
    *Infidels, Countrymen, Airplane nuts, and Pietenpol builders, * *Years back Steve Eldredge from Utah started a Pietenpol builders e-mail list and in the early 1990's when I was starting to build my Pietenpol I found the list* *incredibly useful and as the list transitioned into the Matronics list even after I completed and had flown my Piet I still enjoyed the list and helping others* *when possible. * *The airplane is a very cool design---I have loved every minute of building, owning, and flying it----but the most valuable gem I have been blessed with from this* *list are some lifelong friendships that formed because of our common interest in this little wood and fabric homebuilt design: **--Frank Pavliga----who was the one* *who got me into Pietenpols and Frank's awesome Dad Frank S. Pavliga, John Hofmann, Glenn Thomas, Rob Busch, Bill Church, Ryan Mueller, Dan Yocum, Jack Phillips, Kevin Purtee, Gary Boothe, Tom Travis, Jim Sury, Paul and Rudy Siegel, Gary & Shad Bell, Don Emch, Dan Helsper, Simon & Susan McCormack, **Jim and Josh Markle, Matt Paxton, Richard Schriebler, Chuck Borsuk, Earl Brown, John Recine, Scott Dawson, DJ Vegh, Steve Williamson, Grant MacLaren, Mark Chouinard, Greg Cardinal, Doc & Dee Mosher, Jack & Susan Textor, Chuck Gantzer, Steve Chase, Santiago Morete & many more. * *I completed my 1933 short-fuselage Pietenpol in 1998 and it is powered by an A-65 Continental engine. I have the straight axel landing gear and no electrics. I covered the plane in the light weight 1.7oz uncertified Superflite fabric (comes from the exact same mill as the certified fabric---just doesn't have the pretty black PMA stamp every few feet) and finished it in Randolph nitrate and butyrate dope with matching Randolph enamel on the metal parts. * *My plane came in at 632 pounds empty and I use a wood 72P-42" prop. I have a 3-piece wing and no fuel in the wing---I made the center section into a baggage compartment which works like a charm. Fuel is a nose tank behind the firewall that holds 17 gallons. * *I could not have built the airplane without the sound building advice I got from other Piet builders who had built Pietenpols before me AND the fantastic book series available thru EAA* *by Tony Bingelis. These books are phenomenal and will save you hours and hours of wondering how to do that next step. * *How do I run my fuel lines? Tony tells you. What material do I make my windshields out of? What is the difference between and AN-3 and an AN-4 and how should they be installed* *to FAA regulations and specs? The Tony Bingelis books tell you. * *How tight should my prop bolts be and how do I balance my prop and make sure it tracks properly to reduce vibration? My Uncle Tony tells you. (okay....he's not really my Uncle * *but I love calling him that.) * *I saved a LOT of head-scratching and money and time by purchasing these jewels---four books for under $100. Two tanks of avgas cost me that much so really, this is a great investment and you don't always get sound advice from "experienced" airplane people but you will from buying and reading the Tony Bingelis homebuilder books. * https://www.eaa.org/en/eaa-shop/homebuilders_corner/2251598800000__bingelis-set-of-4 *I've had the pleasure of flying this little airplane now for 18 years and it has been a pure joy. I hope whatever your interest level is in Pietenpols that you'll keep at it and finish yours someday. The guys who own and fly them will tell you how worthwhile the effort is to build (and it isn't easy by any means) this scratch-built airplane. * *Ironically enough the guys who have "them all"......the airline pilots and military pilots out there.....do you know what kind of airplane many of them gravitate to building?? The Pietenpol. One of my friends flies the CAF's B-24 and B-29, C-47, and A-26. Do you know what he's building in his garage? A Pietenpol. * *There are guys in this group who have combat time in F-16 Falcons and you know what they are building?? There is a guy here building a Pietenpol who was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross for a heroic rescue in Operation Iraqi Freedom. * *There are SO many good resources for Pietenpol builders. One of my FAVORITE places on the web to look at Pietenpol photos ( I mean reams of photos) is a great web site made by Chris Tracy---- http://www.westcoastpiet.com/ <http://www.westcoastpiet.com/> You could spend hours and hours pouring over builders photos. A ton of photos my plane are posted there along with an entire page of sketches under Mike Cuy. * *Lastly, there is a wonderful Facebook Pietenpol page that I really like---- https://www.facebook.com/groups/154625746626/ <https://www.facebook.com/groups/154625746626/>* *All the best, * *Michael Cuy* *Ohio * [image: Inline image 1]


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    Time: 02:09:52 PM PST US
    From: Michael Cuy <michaelcuy1@gmail.com>
    Subject: Fwd: New Piet list member----well okay, old Piet list
    member *Infidels, Countrymen, Airplane nuts, and Pietenpol builders, * *Years back Steve Eldredge from Utah started a Pietenpol builders e-mail list and in the early 1990's when I was starting to build my Pietenpol I found the list* *incredibly useful and as the list transitioned into the Matronics list even after I completed and had flown my Piet I still enjoyed the list and helping others* *when possible. * *The airplane is a very cool design---I have loved every minute of building, owning, and flying it----but the most valuable gem I have been blessed with from this* *list are some lifelong friendships that formed because of our common interest in this little wood and fabric homebuilt design: **--Frank Pavliga----who was the one* *who got me into Pietenpols and Frank's awesome Dad Frank S. Pavliga, John Hofmann, Glenn Thomas, Rob Busch, Bill Church, Ryan Mueller, Dan Yocum, Jack Phillips, Kevin Purtee, Gary Boothe, Tom Travis, Jim Sury, Paul and Rudy Siegel, Gary & Shad Bell, Don Emch, Dan Helsper, Simon & Susan McCormack, **Jim and Josh Markle, Matt Paxton, Richard Schriebler, Chuck Borsuk, Earl Brown, John Recine, Scott Dawson, DJ Vegh, Steve Williamson, Grant MacLaren, Mark Chouinard, Greg Cardinal, Doc & Dee Mosher, Jack & Susan Textor, Chuck Gantzer, Steve Chase, Santiago Morete & many more. * *I completed my 1933 short-fuselage Pietenpol in 1998 and it is powered by an A-65 Continental engine. I have the straight axel landing gear and no electrics. I covered the plane in the light weight 1.7oz uncertified Superflite fabric (comes from the exact same mill as the certified fabric---just doesn't have the pretty black PMA stamp every few feet) and finished it in Randolph nitrate and butyrate dope with matching Randolph enamel on the metal parts. * *My plane came in at 632 pounds empty and I use a wood 72P-42" prop. I have a 3-piece wing and no fuel in the wing---I made the center section into a baggage compartment which works like a charm. Fuel is a nose tank behind the firewall that holds 17 gallons. * *I could not have built the airplane without the sound building advice I got from other Piet builders who had built Pietenpols before me AND the fantastic book series available thru EAA* *by Tony Bingelis. These books are phenomenal and will save you hours and hours of wondering how to do that next step. * *How do I run my fuel lines? Tony tells you. What material do I make my windshields out of? What is the difference between and AN-3 and an AN-4 and how should they be installed* *to FAA regulations and specs? The Tony Bingelis books tell you. * *How tight should my prop bolts be and how do I balance my prop and make sure it tracks properly to reduce vibration? My Uncle Tony tells you. (okay....he's not really my Uncle * *but I love calling him that.) * *I saved a LOT of head-scratching and money and time by purchasing these jewels---four books for under $100. Two tanks of avgas cost me that much so really, this is a great investment and you don't always get sound advice from "experienced" airplane people but you will from buying and reading the Tony Bingelis homebuilder books. * https://www.eaa.org/en/eaa-shop/homebuilders_corner/2251598800000__bingelis-set-of-4 [image: Inline image 1] *I've had the pleasure of flying this little airplane now for 18 years and it has been a pure joy. I hope whatever your interest level is in Pietenpols that you'll keep at it and finish yours someday. The guys who own and fly them will tell you how worthwhile the effort is to build (and it isn't easy by any means) this scratch-built airplane. * *Ironically enough the guys who have "them all"......the airline pilots and military pilots out there.....do you know what kind of airplane many of them gravitate to building?? The Pietenpol. One of my friends flies the CAF's B-24 and B-29, C-47, and A-26. Do you know what he's building in his garage? A Pietenpol. * *There are guys in this group who have combat time in F-16 Falcons and you know what they are building?? There is a guy here building a Pietenpol who was awarded the Distinguished Flying Cross for a heroic rescue in Operation Iraqi Freedom. * *There are SO many good resources for Pietenpol builders. One of my FAVORITE places on the web to look at Pietenpol photos ( I mean reams of photos) is a great web site made by Chris Tracy---- http://www.westcoastpiet.com/ <http://www.westcoastpiet.com/> You could spend hours and hours pouring over builders photos. A ton of photos my plane are posted there along with an entire page of sketches under Mike Cuy. * *Lastly, there is a wonderful Facebook Pietenpol page that I really like---- https://www.facebook.com/groups/154625746626/ <https://www.facebook.com/groups/154625746626/>* *All the best, * *Michael Cuy* *Ohio *


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    Time: 09:37:35 PM PST US
    Subject: Where I'm at
    From: dboarder <dboarder@internode.on.net>
    Hi Pieters, Thanks for your replies. Engines work the same Down Under, however, I have seen a Detroit two-stroke diesel Screaming Jimmy run backwards, complete with clouds of white smoke. And no, water doesnt travel down the drain anti-clockwise, but the sun does. The WW2 Jeep motor is based on the Willys 4 used in the Whippet. Interestingly, almost as many Jeeps were made by Ford (under licence) during WW2. For those contemplating using an A Ford engine may I humbly suggest you broaden your search to include the Model B (1932-34). These are scarce (certainly here) as they came out in the Depression and competed with the new, for Ford, V8. Almost identical to the the A engine but with good internal modifications, most notably a counter-balanced crankshaft. Makes for a smoother running engine capable of extra revs. They also ran a bigger throat Zenith carby, which can be used on an A engine - but also scarce. All the Fords imported into Australia were manufactured in Canada and assembled locally. The engines have a C stamped in front of the engine number. The one Im using is CAO7628 which indicates a May 1928 build. Im reliably informed that all Canadian built engines were painted grey, not the Ford green of the US built. Despite considerable research, I cannot find any reference to this colour. Maybe one of the Canadian Pietenpol builders may be able to shed some light. Respectfully, David Boarder Launceston Tasmania Australia The ox is slow, but the earth is patient.




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