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1. 12:30 AM - progress in Tasmania (MacBook Pro)
2. 04:48 AM - Re: Link to Jack Textor's Pietenpol construction web site w/ lots of GREAT photos (Jack Textor)
3. 05:35 AM - posting here (Douwe Blumberg)
4. 07:41 AM - Re: OSH (Greg Cardinal)
5. 08:56 AM - Re: OSH (Ray Krause)
6. 10:09 AM - Re: OSH (Greg Cardinal)
7. 10:11 AM - Re: OSH (nightmare)
8. 11:05 AM - Re: OSH (aerocarjake)
9. 12:01 PM - Piet featured in Sport Aviation article (Bill Church)
10. 12:07 PM - Re: Knots or MPH (aerocarjake)
11. 12:11 PM - Re: posting here (Bill Church)
12. 12:49 PM - Re: Piet featured in Sport Aviation article (Bill Church)
13. 07:44 PM - Re: Link to Jack Textor's Pietenpol construction web site w/ lot (taildrags)
14. 07:53 PM - Re: OSH (taildrags)
15. 08:11 PM - Re: Re: OSH (Greg Cardinal)
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| Subject: | progress in Tasmania |
> Hi Douwe,
Thanks for the info. I=92ll use the electronic tacho., as you say, a
super simple option. As this requires no modification to the camshaft,
did you still modify the timing gear cover? Looking at the plans it
seems some of the modifications are designed to reduce the oil leak
problem that can be a problem at the front of A Ford motors.
Snyders have a temperature gauge probe pipe that mounts in the upper
hose.What type of sensor did you use? I have noticed in quite a few
photos of Pietenpol Fords that there is an additional water outlet at
the prop end of the head. I guess there is a problem with a water
temperature buildup at the point. Is this outlet created by drilling
into the water jacket?
I have all 4 of the Bingilis books, the manual from Andrew Pietenpol and
the 2 EAA Flying manuals, 1932 and 1933.
Thanks again for your assistance.
Respectfully,
David
> Time: 05:16:13 AM PST US
> From: "Douwe Blumberg" <douwe@douwestudios.com>
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: progress in Tasmania
>
> HI David and welcome!
>
>
> First off, congratulations on your progress!
>
>
> I had a ford built with insert bearings as well and feel it's a great
> solution if done well. I personally think a super-simple tach option
is to
> simply use a westach electrical tach which simply runs off the "P"
lead from
> the mag and eliminates the tach cable. I have used one for five
years now
> and know of others who have been using them with complete success.
> Available from Aircraft Spruce. Just be sure to put a small fuse
inline
> between the gauge and the lead. I think Toni Bingilis mentions them
in his
> firewall forward book (which EVERYBODY building should be required to
own
> his entire set).
>
>
> If I remember correctly I welded a boss onto the a short metal tube in
the
> radiator hose run so I could get water temps coming out of the
radiator and
> entering the motor. I've also heard that the cap-type gauges can be
reading
> the temp of the brass rather than pure water temps.
>
>
> Good luck!
>
>
> Douwe
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Link to Jack Textor's Pietenpol construction web site |
w/ lots of GREAT photos
Mike thanks for the kind words! The website is pretty dated but could help s
ome...
Jack Textor
Sent from my iPad
> On Jul 29, 2016, at 4:10 PM, Michael Cuy <michaelcuy1@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> http://textors.com/PietProject.html
>
>
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John,
I hear you, those types of responses, multiplied made the old-timers get
sick and leave the list and newcomers scared to ask questions.
Though it is certainly helpful to search the archive, and should be
suggested, the suggestion often came across as a "shoot-down" and not
helpful.
Douwe
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Phil,
Apologies for replying after leaving OSH but I don't access this list while
away....
Four Pietenpols were parked in row 361, north of the brown arch and very
close to the Homebuilders HQ.
The four were Bob Poore, Dan Helsper, Jill Oakes and myself.
A brief recap for anyone interested:
Bob Poore, Dan Helsper and I departed Brodhead on Sunday morning as a flight
of three. We had a groundspeed of 100 mph as we made our way to Hartford for
fuel and to make NORDO arrangements into the UL field at OSH. The winds at
OSH on Sunday would have been a direct 20+ mph crosswind with a downhill
landing on the short UL runway.
We elected to leave the planes at Hartford for the night and got a ride to
OSH.
At 6:00 am Monday morning we were given a ride back to Hartford to pick up
the planes for the flight to OSH.
We communicated our progress with ground crew at the UL field to so they
could have the pattern clear for our arrival. We all landed in quick
succession with the fence lined with spectators.
I heard our arrival was quite a show and I'm hoping it shows up on Youtube.
We all eventually made our way to the Homebuilt Parking area where we were
met by Charlie Becker and Mary Jones for photos and interviews.
All week long the crowds were thick around the Pietenpols, especially Dan's.
Bob and I planned to depart early Friday (yesterday) morning. Just as we
were untying the planes the field went IFR so we were stuck. At 10:30 the
field went VFR so it was a scramble to get back to the UL field for
departure. Heading west we had to stay at 300 - 400' and maneuver around
rain showers. This went on for about 20 - 30 miles and then only slightly
improved.
We landed at our home fields late in the afternoon after a couple of fuel
stops.
And finally, I want to add that I am continually amazed at how Pietenpol
people will step up and offer help and generosity whenever and wherever
needed. From ground transportation to and from Hartford (thank you Pat and
Mary Hoyt) to towing my tailskid equipped Piet from the UL field to my
parking spot (thank you Mike Danford) and many other offers of assistance.
It was an awesome trip and I'm already looking forward to next year.
Greg Cardinal
Minneapolis
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Phillip
Perry
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 9:29 AM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: OSH
--> <philperry9@gmail.com>
I'll be at OSH for a few days and was curious where the Piets typically park
on the field. I'm hoping to see a few and ask a few questions.
Won't be able to make Broadhead.
Thanks,
PhiL
Sent from my iPhone
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Greg,
Thanks for the very enjoyable write-up of your arrival and departure of OSH 2016.
Makes me envious!
Ray Krause
Sent from my iPad
> On Jul 30, 2016, at 7:41 AM, Greg Cardinal <gcardinal@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
> Phil,
>
> Apologies for replying after leaving OSH but I don't access this list while
> away....
>
> Four Pietenpols were parked in row 361, north of the brown arch and very
> close to the Homebuilders HQ.
> The four were Bob Poore, Dan Helsper, Jill Oakes and myself.
>
> A brief recap for anyone interested:
> Bob Poore, Dan Helsper and I departed Brodhead on Sunday morning as a flight
> of three. We had a groundspeed of 100 mph as we made our way to Hartford for
> fuel and to make NORDO arrangements into the UL field at OSH. The winds at
> OSH on Sunday would have been a direct 20+ mph crosswind with a downhill
> landing on the short UL runway.
>
> We elected to leave the planes at Hartford for the night and got a ride to
> OSH.
>
> At 6:00 am Monday morning we were given a ride back to Hartford to pick up
> the planes for the flight to OSH.
> We communicated our progress with ground crew at the UL field to so they
> could have the pattern clear for our arrival. We all landed in quick
> succession with the fence lined with spectators.
>
> I heard our arrival was quite a show and I'm hoping it shows up on Youtube.
>
> We all eventually made our way to the Homebuilt Parking area where we were
> met by Charlie Becker and Mary Jones for photos and interviews.
>
> All week long the crowds were thick around the Pietenpols, especially Dan's.
>
> Bob and I planned to depart early Friday (yesterday) morning. Just as we
> were untying the planes the field went IFR so we were stuck. At 10:30 the
> field went VFR so it was a scramble to get back to the UL field for
> departure. Heading west we had to stay at 300 - 400' and maneuver around
> rain showers. This went on for about 20 - 30 miles and then only slightly
> improved.
>
> We landed at our home fields late in the afternoon after a couple of fuel
> stops.
>
> And finally, I want to add that I am continually amazed at how Pietenpol
> people will step up and offer help and generosity whenever and wherever
> needed. From ground transportation to and from Hartford (thank you Pat and
> Mary Hoyt) to towing my tailskid equipped Piet from the UL field to my
> parking spot (thank you Mike Danford) and many other offers of assistance.
>
> It was an awesome trip and I'm already looking forward to next year.
>
> Greg Cardinal
> Minneapolis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Phillip
> Perry
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 9:29 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: OSH
>
> --> <philperry9@gmail.com>
>
> I'll be at OSH for a few days and was curious where the Piets typically park
> on the field. I'm hoping to see a few and ask a few questions.
>
> Won't be able to make Broadhead.
>
> Thanks,
> PhiL
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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One more noteworthy mention is Rob Busch who helped me walk the airplane
from its parking spot to the UL field. It was close to a mile and his help
was greatly appreciated.
Greg
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ray Krause
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: OSH
--> <raykrause@frontiernet.net>
Greg,
Thanks for the very enjoyable write-up of your arrival and departure of OSH
2016. Makes me envious!
Ray Krause
Sent from my iPad
> On Jul 30, 2016, at 7:41 AM, Greg Cardinal <gcardinal@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> --> <gcardinal@comcast.net>
>
> Phil,
>
> Apologies for replying after leaving OSH but I don't access this list
> while away....
>
> Four Pietenpols were parked in row 361, north of the brown arch and
> very close to the Homebuilders HQ.
> The four were Bob Poore, Dan Helsper, Jill Oakes and myself.
>
> A brief recap for anyone interested:
> Bob Poore, Dan Helsper and I departed Brodhead on Sunday morning as a
> flight of three. We had a groundspeed of 100 mph as we made our way to
> Hartford for fuel and to make NORDO arrangements into the UL field at
> OSH. The winds at OSH on Sunday would have been a direct 20+ mph
> crosswind with a downhill landing on the short UL runway.
>
> We elected to leave the planes at Hartford for the night and got a
> ride to OSH.
>
> At 6:00 am Monday morning we were given a ride back to Hartford to
> pick up the planes for the flight to OSH.
> We communicated our progress with ground crew at the UL field to so
> they could have the pattern clear for our arrival. We all landed in
> quick succession with the fence lined with spectators.
>
> I heard our arrival was quite a show and I'm hoping it shows up on
Youtube.
>
> We all eventually made our way to the Homebuilt Parking area where we
> were met by Charlie Becker and Mary Jones for photos and interviews.
>
> All week long the crowds were thick around the Pietenpols, especially
Dan's.
>
> Bob and I planned to depart early Friday (yesterday) morning. Just as
> we were untying the planes the field went IFR so we were stuck. At
> 10:30 the field went VFR so it was a scramble to get back to the UL
> field for departure. Heading west we had to stay at 300 - 400' and
> maneuver around rain showers. This went on for about 20 - 30 miles and
> then only slightly improved.
>
> We landed at our home fields late in the afternoon after a couple of
> fuel stops.
>
> And finally, I want to add that I am continually amazed at how
> Pietenpol people will step up and offer help and generosity whenever
> and wherever needed. From ground transportation to and from Hartford
> (thank you Pat and Mary Hoyt) to towing my tailskid equipped Piet from
> the UL field to my parking spot (thank you Mike Danford) and many other
offers of assistance.
>
> It was an awesome trip and I'm already looking forward to next year.
>
> Greg Cardinal
> Minneapolis
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Phillip Perry
> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 9:29 AM
> To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Pietenpol-List: OSH
>
> --> <philperry9@gmail.com>
>
> I'll be at OSH for a few days and was curious where the Piets
> typically park on the field. I'm hoping to see a few and ask a few
questions.
>
> Won't be able to make Broadhead.
>
> Thanks,
> PhiL
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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that was a great read. thanks for the play by play Ray
--------
Paul Donahue
Started 8-3-12
do not archive
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Thanks for your account of the trip. Such an inspiring adventure !
--------
Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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| Subject: | Piet featured in Sport Aviation article |
This month's (August 2016) issue of Sport Aviation features an article about the
Toledo Buzzards Light Sport Aircraft Club Inc., and their Pietenpol.
Bill C.
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| Subject: | Re: Knots or MPH |
I opted for mph because it feels "older." I want people to walk up and ponder "man,
how OLD is this plane?" I want as many things as possible to evoke the feeling
of an old airplane, even though it will be brand new. Things I am referring
to include the round engine, wicker seats, large diameter Harley Davidson
tires, simple/vintage paint scheme, etc.....
Now the sarcastic answer to the question of mph or knots: I plan to install a
CALENDER - ha!
--------
Jake Schultz - curator,
Newport Way Air Museum (OK, it's just my home)
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| Subject: | Re: posting here |
A few days ago there was a plea for people to create new subject lines, rather
than replying to existing threads, if their comment was not a direct response
to the specific question being asked. Well, here's an example of an instance
where it probably would have been better to reply to the original post, rather
than posting a new topic. Without a link to the original post, it isn't clear
what this message is in response to.
Bill C.
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| Subject: | Re: Piet featured in Sport Aviation article |
Hmmm... I tried attaching a copy of the article, but apparently the file was too
big. So, I reduced the file size, down to less than 700 kB, and it still gave
the message that the file was too big. According to the rules, 3 MB is the
maximum attachment size, so I don't know what the problem is.
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| Subject: | Re: Link to Jack Textor's Pietenpol construction web site |
w/ lot
The outstanding thing about Jack's construction web site is that it is wonderfully
organized by subassembly or topic, AND there are generously-sized thumbnail
images under each topic so you can quickly find what you're looking for and
then click on that photo without having to scroll through them. An excellent
site, and in terms of the 85-year history of the Air Camper, not dated at all!
Rather modern, actually... ;o)
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
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Wait. Did you say Jill Oakes? Did she fly her Piet down from Canada, eh? Last
I heard she was making some repairs to it. Quite the inspiration, that pilot!
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
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Yes, Jill Oakes. Affectionately known as "Winnipeg Jill".
After Brodhead she flew to Michigan to visit family and THEN flew back to
OSH.
All of this flying was done with her husband as a passenger. Quite
inspiring.
Greg Cardinal
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of taildrags
Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2016 9:53 PM
Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: OSH
--> <taildrags@hotmail.com>
Wait. Did you say Jill Oakes? Did she fly her Piet down from Canada, eh?
Last I heard she was making some repairs to it. Quite the inspiration, that
pilot!
--------
Oscar Zuniga
Medford, OR
Air Camper NX41CC "Scout"
A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop
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