---------------------------------------------------------- Pietenpol-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 09/12/16: 5 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 08:27 AM - Re: afternoon flying (Ray Krause) 2. 09:38 AM - Re: afternoon flying (Charles N. Campbell) 3. 02:14 PM - Re: afternoon flying (Jack Textor) 4. 03:10 PM - Wood straight axle or split landing gear? (hall698) 5. 04:34 PM - Re: Wood straight axle or split landing gear? (tools) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 08:27:09 AM PST US From: Ray Krause Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: afternoon flying Thanks, Oscar! I needed that. Keep it up and you will have me back on my project! Ray Krause SkyScout project Sent from my iPad > On Sep 11, 2016, at 9:17 PM, taildrags wrote: > > > Pretty quiet on the list, so I don't feel too bad posting about just an ordinary afternoon flight. As I wrote yesterday, Scott's "flooded engine start" routine worked perfectly and I put three landings and 1.6 hr in the logbook. I now know for sure that I'm going to rig up an air/oil separator for my crankcase breather. It's just a fine mist that the propwash picks up in cruise flight and brings up onto the port side of the passenger's windscreen, but after an hour or more in cruise, it begins to get noticeable. I'm going to fabricate a separator to mount to the firewall to put an end to it. > > I forgot that I was going to put a level on my top longeron in cruise flight to see what angle the fuselage is at in cruise. As I mentioned in another post when the subject came up, I have a very nice little (free) app on my iPhone that gives both a digital readout as well as a "bubble" analog picture of the angle, and the numbers are big enough that I can read them without my reading glasses. I don't remember who had asked about the fuselage attitude in flight, but I've been curious to find out. I'll try to remember it next time. > > Nothing extraordinary about my afternoon flight. The first leg was over to Beagle Sky Ranch (OR96), a one-way dirt strip, for a pretty decent landing and takeoff. Next leg was over to Prospect (64S), a nice little 4000x50 paved strip in some very scenic country. Lost Creek Lake is on the way over there and one end of the strip is at the edge of a steep dropoff to Mill Creek Falls and the "Avenue of the Boulders" on the Rogue River. It's always gusty there on a warm afternoon and I admit that I ballooned pretty good on initial flare and also on the first bounce, but saved it and lived to fly again ;o) > > My third and final landing was back home at Rogue Valley International... main runway is 8800x150 and you really have to try hard to mess up so badly that you have to go around. My guess is that you could blow a half-dozen approaches one after the other, save each one, power back up after you save one, and still not run off the far end of the runway. Don't ask me how I know ;o) This time all I needed was 1.5 landings to stick it onto the pavement and make the turnoff at A3 (less than 2000' from the numbers). You really get spoiled on big wide runways when you make your final approach almost at cruise speed, come down with big bright PAPI lights with the throttle still in, and just pull the power over the numbers and start scrubbing off speed. I have to keep telling myself not to carry too much airspeed on final and to keep the stick coming back. It's just hard to do when there is a regional jet full of passengers fanning themselves holding for takeoff behind you and th! > e runway distance markers just seem to be creeping by. > > My final comment: I was absolutely flabbergasted when I saw how many new marijuana grows have sprung up around the Rogue Valley just in the last 6-9 months. They are everywhere! So much for Oregon's once-famous Christmas tree farms... "Cannabis Green" is the new state color. > > -------- > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, OR > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" > A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=460421#460421 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:38:52 AM PST US From: "Charles N. Campbell" Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: afternoon flying Yeah!. Oscar, Keep those fingers flying on the keys! It makes those of us who lose interest in our Piet projects get our noses back to the grind stone. Incidentally, I was hoping to fly mine this summer but I have moved the projected project completion to the Fall of 2016. Will let you know if it gets pushed out any further. Chuck On Mon, Sep 12, 2016 at 11:18 AM, Ray Krause wrote: > raykrause@frontiernet.net> > > Thanks, Oscar! I needed that. Keep it up and you will have me back on my > project! > > Ray Krause > SkyScout project > > Sent from my iPad > > > On Sep 11, 2016, at 9:17 PM, taildrags wrote: > > > > > > > > Pretty quiet on the list, so I don't feel too bad posting about just an > ordinary afternoon flight. As I wrote yesterday, Scott's "flooded engine > start" routine worked perfectly and I put three landings and 1.6 hr in the > logbook. I now know for sure that I'm going to rig up an air/oil separator > for my crankcase breather. It's just a fine mist that the propwash picks > up in cruise flight and brings up onto the port side of the passenger's > windscreen, but after an hour or more in cruise, it begins to get > noticeable. I'm going to fabricate a separator to mount to the firewall to > put an end to it. > > > > I forgot that I was going to put a level on my top longeron in cruise > flight to see what angle the fuselage is at in cruise. As I mentioned in > another post when the subject came up, I have a very nice little (free) app > on my iPhone that gives both a digital readout as well as a "bubble" analog > picture of the angle, and the numbers are big enough that I can read them > without my reading glasses. I don't remember who had asked about the > fuselage attitude in flight, but I've been curious to find out. I'll try > to remember it next time. > > > > Nothing extraordinary about my afternoon flight. The first leg was over > to Beagle Sky Ranch (OR96), a one-way dirt strip, for a pretty decent > landing and takeoff. Next leg was over to Prospect (64S), a nice little > 4000x50 paved strip in some very scenic country. Lost Creek Lake is on the > way over there and one end of the strip is at the edge of a steep dropoff > to Mill Creek Falls and the "Avenue of the Boulders" on the Rogue River. > It's always gusty there on a warm afternoon and I admit that I ballooned > pretty good on initial flare and also on the first bounce, but saved it and > lived to fly again ;o) > > > > My third and final landing was back home at Rogue Valley > International... main runway is 8800x150 and you really have to try hard to > mess up so badly that you have to go around. My guess is that you could > blow a half-dozen approaches one after the other, save each one, power back > up after you save one, and still not run off the far end of the runway. > Don't ask me how I know ;o) This time all I needed was 1.5 landings to > stick it onto the pavement and make the turnoff at A3 (less than 2000' from > the numbers). You really get spoiled on big wide runways when you make > your final approach almost at cruise speed, come down with big bright PAPI > lights with the throttle still in, and just pull the power over the numbers > and start scrubbing off speed. I have to keep telling myself not to carry > too much airspeed on final and to keep the stick coming back. It's just > hard to do when there is a regional jet full of passengers fanning > themselves holding for takeoff behind you and ! > th! > > e runway distance markers just seem to be creeping by. > > > > My final comment: I was absolutely flabbergasted when I saw how many new > marijuana grows have sprung up around the Rogue Valley just in the last 6-9 > months. They are everywhere! So much for Oregon's once-famous Christmas > tree farms... "Cannabis Green" is the new state color. > > > > -------- > > Oscar Zuniga > > Medford, OR > > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" > > A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop > > > > > > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=460421#460421 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:14:11 PM PST US From: Jack Textor Subject: Re: Pietenpol-List: afternoon flying Thank you Oscar for all your input and inspiration! Much needed at this stage of my build. Jack Textor Sent from my iPad > On Sep 11, 2016, at 11:17 PM, taildrags wrote: > > > Pretty quiet on the list, so I don't feel too bad posting about just an ordinary afternoon flight. As I wrote yesterday, Scott's "flooded engine start" routine worked perfectly and I put three landings and 1.6 hr in the logbook. I now know for sure that I'm going to rig up an air/oil separator for my crankcase breather. It's just a fine mist that the propwash picks up in cruise flight and brings up onto the port side of the passenger's windscreen, but after an hour or more in cruise, it begins to get noticeable. I'm going to fabricate a separator to mount to the firewall to put an end to it. > > I forgot that I was going to put a level on my top longeron in cruise flight to see what angle the fuselage is at in cruise. As I mentioned in another post when the subject came up, I have a very nice little (free) app on my iPhone that gives both a digital readout as well as a "bubble" analog picture of the angle, and the numbers are big enough that I can read them without my reading glasses. I don't remember who had asked about the fuselage attitude in flight, but I've been curious to find out. I'll try to remember it next time. > > Nothing extraordinary about my afternoon flight. The first leg was over to Beagle Sky Ranch (OR96), a one-way dirt strip, for a pretty decent landing and takeoff. Next leg was over to Prospect (64S), a nice little 4000x50 paved strip in some very scenic country. Lost Creek Lake is on the way over there and one end of the strip is at the edge of a steep dropoff to Mill Creek Falls and the "Avenue of the Boulders" on the Rogue River. It's always gusty there on a warm afternoon and I admit that I ballooned pretty good on initial flare and also on the first bounce, but saved it and lived to fly again ;o) > > My third and final landing was back home at Rogue Valley International... main runway is 8800x150 and you really have to try hard to mess up so badly that you have to go around. My guess is that you could blow a half-dozen approaches one after the other, save each one, power back up after you save one, and still not run off the far end of the runway. Don't ask me how I know ;o) This time all I needed was 1.5 landings to stick it onto the pavement and make the turnoff at A3 (less than 2000' from the numbers). You really get spoiled on big wide runways when you make your final approach almost at cruise speed, come down with big bright PAPI lights with the throttle still in, and just pull the power over the numbers and start scrubbing off speed. I have to keep telling myself not to carry too much airspeed on final and to keep the stick coming back. It's just hard to do when there is a regional jet full of passengers fanning themselves holding for takeoff behind you and th! > e runway distance markers just seem to be creeping by. > > My final comment: I was absolutely flabbergasted when I saw how many new marijuana grows have sprung up around the Rogue Valley just in the last 6-9 months. They are everywhere! So much for Oregon's once-famous Christmas tree farms... "Cannabis Green" is the new state color. > > -------- > Oscar Zuniga > Medford, OR > Air Camper NX41CC "Scout" > A75 power, 72x36 Culver prop > > > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=460421#460421 > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 03:10:09 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Wood straight axle or split landing gear? From: "hall698" I am steadily working my way towards the time to decide which landing gear type to go with. As with the nature of the question I confess that I am a new to building aircraft. Is one better than the other? I like the nostalgia of the wood, but have concerns over rough landings. Thoughts? Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=460452#460452 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 04:34:57 PM PST US Subject: Pietenpol-List: Re: Wood straight axle or split landing gear? From: "tools" I like the wood gear on the Piet. It IS plenty strong, no worries there. On the practical side, wood gear is somewhat easier in that you can't misalign it, making for a poor ground handling plane. No welding required at all if that's a concern. On the other hand, the small wide aircraft tires are easier landing than the tall narrow ones IF the gear is aligned properly. So what it comes down to is which are you more comfortable making, and which looks best to you. 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